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10/5/11 8:54 PM
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Madmuzzy - So is donald Tuck going to take dana up on his invitation?

 We'll see. His only onjection last night was that he assumed DW would exploit him on a vlog but DW has no intention of filming it so Squatdog should no longer have a reason not to go. Its a once in a lifetime thing but I'm sure he'll pass- now that I have read about the trolling he has been doing for years on this thread;)

The guy has an orgasm every time someone posts about DW in a manner that calls for the re-re-re-reposting of the TUF clip so his screen is probably a nasty mess right about now, considering the DW topics the past few days. Let's wait til he hits it with some Windex so he can actually read the new posts added and then see what he has to say. Perhaps Squatdog has had a change of heart;)

Cindy


If he could have refuted any of the facts I presented, he would have done it already in one of his immense library of Vlogs or an interview. It's been a good five years or so and they have all been covered many times over. Hell, there was a monster thread a year or two ago regarding Dana White's alleged Amateur Boxing career (the only 'evidence' found was that he was registered as a cornerman/coach but not as an actual boxer).

If he REALLY wanted to comprehensively end the speculation once and for all, he would get a qualified journalist to confirm his claims. Even an MMA journalist would do.

Even if I did fly out from New Zealand(!), how would being harangued by Dana White and introduced to a selection of his cronies in a city I know little about prove it either way, especially regarding businesses from over a decade ago? Am I supposed to keep notes and write a report at the end?

 Businesses from a decade ago? He STILL owns 2 of the 3 gyms he had and the 3rd was the gym he and Peter Welsh opened (that is STILL open). He'll TAKE you to them then you'll know you're full of shit about their existence. So you CAN'T do that or your screwed on thew UG=)

How TUF came about? He'll take you to Spike and let you talk to execs that wouldn't give you or anyone else the time of day under normal circumstances. You can talk to Lorenzo, too, and ask HIM if he "told" DW they were doing a reality show as if he had nothing to do with it. See, cuz when you were a little bitch to me after I got the story from DW that you asked me to about its origin it didn't matter what he said- YOU STILL said he was a liar. Nope- homie, you need first hand proof because you don't wanna take ANYONES word for a dayum thing that doesn't mesh with the some of the diarrhea you post. I think you need to talk to Spike execs and TUF creator Craig P. don't you?

His amateur boxing record? Peter Welsh told me a few years ago what DW's record was. I told you. You said it was a lie=) See how we got to today? You need to go to Boston, visit the gym, talk to Peter and some of the guys DW used to train with. They are still there=)

What else have you called him a liar for? I wanna make sure you get to touch base with folks involved so ALLLLL of your questions can be answered... and you finally have some proof to share instead of your stale ass played out opinion.

When will you be able to go? He will work around your schedule. PM me the details and I will pass them along immediately.

Face to face is how you get shit done, no?

Cindy
10/5/11 8:56 PM
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Squatdog -  Am I supposed to keep notes and write a report at the end?
You mean like what you've done over the past 5 years?
  

 LMFAO!

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10/5/11 8:58 PM
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Winston Wolf - SD sooo you wont meet Dana even if he meets VIPs you @ a major event ?
Nah man he's got a life haven't you read? Phone Post
10/5/11 8:59 PM
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 So basically if he talks to Dana's friends that will verify everything? lol 
10/5/11 9:00 PM
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Madmuzzy - So is donald Tuck going to take dana up on his invitation?

 We'll see. His only onjection last night was that he assumed DW would exploit him on a vlog but DW has no intention of filming it so Squatdog should no longer have a reason not to go. Its a once in a lifetime thing but I'm sure he'll pass- now that I have read about the trolling he has been doing for years on this thread;)

The guy has an orgasm every time someone posts about DW in a manner that calls for the re-re-re-reposting of the TUF clip so his screen is probably a nasty mess right about now, considering the DW topics the past few days. Let's wait til he hits it with some Windex so he can actually read the new posts added and then see what he has to say. Perhaps Squatdog has had a change of heart;)

Cindy


If he could have refuted any of the facts I presented, he would have done it already in one of his immense library of Vlogs or an interview. It's been a good five years or so and they have all been covered many times over. Hell, there was a monster thread a year or two ago regarding Dana White's alleged Amateur Boxing career (the only 'evidence' found was that he was registered as a cornerman/coach but not as an actual boxer).

If he REALLY wanted to comprehensively end the speculation once and for all, he would get a qualified journalist to confirm his claims. Even an MMA journalist would do.

Even if I did fly out from New Zealand(!), how would being harangued by Dana White and introduced to a selection of his cronies in a city I know little about prove it either way, especially regarding businesses from over a decade ago? Am I supposed to keep notes and write a report at the end?

 Businesses from a decade ago? He STILL owns 2 of the 3 gyms he had and the 3rd was the gym he and Peter Welsh opened (that is STILL open). He'll TAKE you to them then you'll know you're full of shit about their existence. So you CAN'T do that or your screwed on thew UG=)

How TUF came about? He'll take you to Spike and let you talk to execs that wouldn't give you or anyone else the time of day under normal circumstances. You can talk to Lorenzo, too, and ask HIM if he "told" DW they were doing a reality show as if he had nothing to do with it. See, cuz when you were a little bitch to me after I got the story from DW that you asked me to about its origin it didn't matter what he said- YOU STILL said he was a liar. Nope- homie, you need first hand proof because you don't wanna take ANYONES word for a dayum thing that doesn't mesh with the some of the diarrhea you post. I think you need to talk to Spike execs and TUF creator Craig P. don't you?

His amateur boxing record? Peter Welsh told me a few years ago what DW's record was. I told you. You said it was a lie=) See how we got to today? You need to go to Boston, visit the gym, talk to Peter and some of the guys DW used to train with. They are still there=)

What else have you called him a liar for? I wanna make sure you get to touch base with folks involved so ALLLLL of your questions can be answered... and you finally have some proof to share instead of your stale ass played out opinion.

When will you be able to go? He will work around your schedule. PM me the details and I will pass them along immediately.

Face to face is how you get shit done, no?

Cindy

You may need to contact Eddie Murphy as well so Squatdog can finally put the Beverly Hills Cop controversy to rest.
10/5/11 9:03 PM
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This is just Dana's way of bringing the UFC to New Zealand.  Dude is always thinking about global marketing.

Squat will probably be a coach of the next season of TUF, teaching the power shot.
10/5/11 9:06 PM
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lookoutawhale -  It would probably be easier and less expensive heh if Dana just popped into this thread and replied to whatever questions were asked.

What does SquatDog want answered anyways? maybe lay out the questions and then Dana could pop back and just answer them all quickly.

 How is that any different than SD reading his interviews and calling him a liar? Just because someone else asked the questions it shouldn't matter. SD will say DW is lying. He needs to visit DW's old stomping grounds and ask those in the know his questions. SD wants proof so DW is willing to give it to him, or at least give him the opportunity to get the proof himself.

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LOL@all of this...

If Dana White somehow provided proof of his Amateur Boxing record, that he personally got the UFC sanctioned in New Jersey(lol!) etc I would be the first to eat humble pie and admit I was wrong.

However, this whole thing is a shell game. No shit, friends and associates of Dana White (often with a huge vested interest) will tell you whatever he instructs them to say, but without tangible proof it's meaningless.
Source of tangible proof? Let's hear what proves something to you.
  
10/5/11 9:11 PM
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Kid Salami -  Oh by the way the way....New UGism?

"I bet you wouldn't say that to his face" = "Squatdog"



 LOL! Love it!
10/5/11 9:11 PM
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CindyO - Peter Welsh told me a few years ago what DW's record was. I told you. You said it was a lie=) See how we got to today? You need to go to Boston, visit the gym, talk to Peter and some of the guys DW used to train with. They are still there=)
Yo Cindy, what was his record? I'm actually pretty curious about that.

Also, I'm an amateur fighter looking to turn pro in two years. Could you help pass along a few questions to Dana White? I can PM them.

Thanks
10/5/11 9:16 PM
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'Squat' is the new 'tuck'.

'Bones squatted when Rashad got in his face.'

'Did you see that guy dicksquat in Silence of the Lambs'?


10/5/11 9:18 PM
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ABE FROMAN - 'Squat' is the new 'tuck'.

'Bones squatted when Rashad got in his face.'

'Did you see that guy dicksquat in Silence of the Lambs'
LOL
10/5/11 9:21 PM
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CindyO - Peter Welsh told me a few years ago what DW's record was. I told you. You said it was a lie=) See how we got to today? You need to go to Boston, visit the gym, talk to Peter and some of the guys DW used to train with. They are still there=)
Yo Cindy, what was his record? I'm actually pretty curious about that.

Also, I'm an amateur fighter looking to turn pro in two years. Could you help pass along a few questions to Dana White? I can PM them.

Thanks
Dana claims his amateur record was 13-4
 
10/5/11 9:22 PM
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Magnum TA - Dana claims his amateur record was 13-4
Thanks man. That should go on his wiki page.
10/5/11 9:23 PM
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LOL, DW's wikipedia says he's 6 feet (5 ft 12 in).

That is definitely NOT TRUE.
10/5/11 9:25 PM
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Cindy remind me never to anger you.

Also, kinda hot to see you owning people. Just sayin'

/creepy I leave that for Uncle Creepy
10/5/11 9:31 PM
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His amateur boxing record? Peter Welsh told me a few years ago what DW's record was. I told you. You said it was a lie=) See how we got to today? You need to go to Boston, visit the gym, talk to Peter and some of the guys DW used to train with. They are still there=)


LOL...a personal friend of Dana White as an unbiased source of information? Show me the actual documented record from the New England or Nevada Amateur Boxing associations.

Once again, it's all a shell game revolving around personal friends and business associates of Dana White who have a vested interest in promoting his claims.

What else have you called him a liar for? I wanna make sure you get to touch base with folks involved so ALLLLL of your questions can be answered... and you finally have some proof to share instead of your stale ass played out opinion.


That Dana White got the UFC sanctioned in New Jersey.

I'm DYING to hear your explanation for this. Maybe I could be introduced to someone who will tell me that ZUFFA actually DID get the UFC sanctioned in New Jersey and Bob Meryowitz is a filthy liar.

If they say so, that must mean it's true!
10/5/11 9:32 PM
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Jobe Watson the Bomber -Who CARES!! it's a free trip fool!!


stfu you fucking idiot. Some people have a life. Dumbass.
Wow. Bit harsh. Yeah I have a life bud but a free trips a free trip. No need for an excessive reply like that. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



No, he's right, you're a fucking idiot
Why's that? Because I'm not defending a guy who talks shit on a message board and gets the chance to meet face to face and prove his points, turns down the chance to meet the prez and speak his mind. Get fucked with that shit, if you don't have the balls to confront a person face to face, don't spew crap out on a forum that Dana reads. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


no, you're just really fucking stupid, fuck face



youre a fucktard
My point is valid. Yours is not. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

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His amateur boxing record? Peter Welsh told me a few years ago what DW's record was. I told you. You said it was a lie=) See how we got to today? You need to go to Boston, visit the gym, talk to Peter and some of the guys DW used to train with. They are still there=)


LOL...a personal friend of Dana White as an unbiased source of information? Show me the actual documented record from the New England or Nevada Amateur Boxing associations.

Once again, it's all a shell game revolving around personal friends and business associates of Dana White who have a vested interest in promoting his claims.

What else have you called him a liar for? I wanna make sure you get to touch base with folks involved so ALLLLL of your questions can be answered... and you finally have some proof to share instead of your stale ass played out opinion.


That Dana White got the UFC sanctioned in New Jersey.

I'm DYING to hear your explanation for this. Maybe I could be introduced to someone who will tell me that ZUFFA actually DID get the UFC sanctioned in New Jersey and Bob Meryowitz is a filthy liar.

If they say so, that must mean it's true!
10/5/11 9:34 PM
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CindyO - Peter Welsh told me a few years ago what DW's record was. I told you. You said it was a lie=) See how we got to today? You need to go to Boston, visit the gym, talk to Peter and some of the guys DW used to train with. They are still there=)
Yo Cindy, what was his record? I'm actually pretty curious about that.

Also, I'm an amateur fighter looking to turn pro in two years. Could you help pass along a few questions to Dana White? I can PM them.

Thanks
Dana claims his amateur record was 13-4
 


According to the 1997 Las Vegas Review article, he was actually 33-10.

Whoops!
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cab - SQUATDOG and CindyO,

Could you both please tell us what the questions / assumptions are that DW wants straightened out?

Correct me please if I'm wrong, but there seem to be five argument points:

- DW was originally against a reality show. *** true. Proven true by DW in text and video?


Yep, he was against A reality show because they were working to try and get a weekly FIGHT show. DW nor the brothers wanted a reality show over a fight show and they met with numerous networks trying to get one and every door was slammed in their faces, essentially.

Craig P was the creator and Exec Producer of American Casino (Frank's and Lorenzo's reality show). When the series was coming to a close HE discussed another reality show with DW & the bros. HE suggested something like American Promoter- Zuffa needed a way to get the UFC on TV and Spike or any other network wouldn't give them a weekly fight show (Friday Night Fights, IIRC). They thought the UFC was too violent for TV.

DW did NOT want to do AP and continued to pursue the possibility of a fight show. Bottom line, unless they came up with of something else, AP was going to be their only option and Spike gave the nod for it. DW brought his crew together one night at 8pm and they worked all night trying to develop another reality show concept and at 4am the next morning, The Ultimate Fighter was born. Spike bought off on their trojan horse to get the UFC in peoples homes and the rest is history.

DW didn't want a reality show- he hated them- said he didn't watch them, but when he found out it was their only option he had no choice. It had NOTHING to do w/him not wanting it and the bros did so they did it anyway. Even Lorenzo LOLs at how people try to misconstrue that clip but a member of the media has NEVER asked ANY of them for clarity because they either already know the story or they don't care.

- DW was a boxercise instructor. *** true?

Yes, was that was ever in dispute? He actually loved doing it.

- DW had an amateur boxing fight. *** false?

Nope, its true. Peter told me his record was 13-3 not 13-4 like DW had mentioned in the past. Squat needs to go to the gym in Boston, look at old pics, talk to the trainers still doing their thing and ask all of the questions he wants.

- DW left Boston because he was being harassed/threatened by thugs. *** true/false? I don't think this can ever be proven either way.

It's true and Squatdog can ask Bill Weeks about it. He was part of Whitey's organization who ended up being the guy that testified against him. He is still in South Boston and DW will take SD there.

- DW had a tough upbringing. ** false? very subjective question, but I agree if he went to a private school his childhood wasn't financially tough, for that period anyway.


DW went to a private school for 18 months of his life. He wasn't spoiled, his parents didn't come from money and as soon as he and his sister were old enough to not need a sitter they were home alone (he was maybe 10-11) unless some of his moms relatives were having problems and in need of shelter. That happened often.

All in all, mountain out of a molehill, but I can understand DW being upset if SD was being libellous.



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ZIPPY -  Summary - Squatdog pussed out and isn't taking the trip ???????????????????


He never agreed to that trip so he's not pussing out of anything.

MB, I'm usually in agreement with you on most things, but I think you're missing the point here. Tucky McTuckerton aka Squatdog talked a ton of shit directed at DFW from (allegedly) the safety of his keyboard in NZ, calling him, among other things, a liar.

AFAIAC, this is the same thing as Squattuck walking into a bar, and directing a bunch of shit at another patron, calling him a liar about the things he says, and pretty much putting him on the spot.

Said patron takes umbrage with what Squattuck has to say, and suggests that he come down to said patron's gym tomorrow to settle the matter. Squattuck, displaying a massive amount of cowardice, swiftly tucks his dick between his legs and refuses the offer.

In my mind, that's a massive dick-tuck, and so it is in this scenario. Fuck that shit that he didn't agree to anything. He shouldn't be writing cheques with his mouth (or fingers) that his ass can't  - or won't - cash.


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CindyO - Nope, its true. Peter told me his record was 15-3 not 15-4 like DW had mentioned in the past. Squat needs to go to the gym in Boston, look at old pics, talk to the trainers still doing their thing and ask all of the questions he wants.



Does that really strike you as reliable evidence?
10/5/11 9:41 PM
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I hope Squatdog didn't succumb to the trickery.

It's more valuable to remain in the shadows and fight the good fight.
10/5/11 9:43 PM
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seg - This is just Dana's way of bringing the UFC to New Zealand.  Dude is always thinking about global marketing.

Squat will probably be a coach of the next season of TUF, teaching the power shot.

 VTFU!!! LOL

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CindyO - Peter Welsh told me a few years ago what DW's record was. I told you. You said it was a lie=) See how we got to today? You need to go to Boston, visit the gym, talk to Peter and some of the guys DW used to train with. They are still there=)
Yo Cindy, what was his record? I'm actually pretty curious about that.

Also, I'm an amateur fighter looking to turn pro in two years. Could you help pass along a few questions to Dana White? I can PM them.

Thanks

 Peter Welsh said it was 13-3. Sure, PM them to me and I'll pass them along.

Cindy
 

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