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11/1/11 4:44 AM
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Smith1234 - Correct answer was GSP, who had a total blowout and wasn't touched.

Whereas Nick lost a round and took some damage.
This/ also the quit part. Bj said no more against gsp. While he kept goin with diaz and keep in mind he won rnd 1 Phone Post
11/1/11 4:55 AM
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supersonic - Diaz. The damage was clear and the way he did it was way more impressive. Most likely the fight would have been stopped via the corner or doc. Maybe a TKo.

This is also one of the only fights where i would bet that the only performance enhancer these guys were on was Pot.


Um ok, one guy made him QUIT , while he actually finshed the fight with the other and won the first round. Stop with that shoulda woulda coulda, FACT is Penn's fight with Diaz went to a decision while his fight with GSP he thru in the towel.


ANY PERSON THAT THINKS THAT DIAZ BEAT PENN WORSE THE GSP must be quitters then since they don't value their manhood much since they think getting taken to a decision is WORSE then being made to quit.

throwing in the towel being TOTALLY DOMINATED>Losing by majority decision.


You're overlooking the fact that GSP had more time to finish him. You're sounding like a delusional nut hugger.

People seem to act like Diaz putting a greater ass whoopin' on Penn invalidates his own win, which isn't the case.

Lol @ "If you don't agree with me you're a quitter". Get that shit out of here moron.
11/1/11 5:14 AM
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So losing by decision is worse then throwing in the towel.....

Think about that 4 a moment... Phone Post
11/1/11 5:54 AM
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both beat up penn pretty good.

nick didn't have to resort to humping penn against the fence and taking him down, he actually stood with penn and out boxed him.
11/1/11 5:56 AM
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 Diaz and he didn't have to grease up to win.
11/1/11 6:38 AM
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Strykr619 - So losing by decision is worse then throwing in the towel.....

Think about that 4 a moment... Phone Post
If GSP/Penn would have been 3 rounds, it would have been a decision.
If Diaz/Penn would have been 5 rounds, there would have been towels thrown (if the doctor didn't stop the fight after round 3).
The fact that GSP finished him is an invalid point.

My vote goes to Diaz, especially when he basically said in the press conference he wasn't 100% into the fight.
To whoever made the football analogy, that's like a team winning 31-7, then coming out and saying after the game they weren't even really trying. It's more demoralizing than a team winning 28-0 but going 100% the entire game. Phone Post
11/1/11 9:39 AM
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ChokeEmOut - LMAO @ any dipshit saying GSP!

Nobody has busted Penn up so bad in his entire career. Some clueless tards on this forum anymore.


Someone has a different opinion, they are fucking dipshits!
They are fucking retards!

Did you go to school? Not smart enough to understand how opinions work are you? It's ok, never expected any better.
11/1/11 9:41 AM
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Smith1234 - Correct answer was GSP, who had a total blowout and wasn't touched.

Whereas Nick lost a round and took some damage.
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11/1/11 9:52 AM
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Smith1234 - Correct answer was GSP, who had a total blowout and wasn't touched.

Whereas Nick lost a round and took some damage.
Actually, that wasn't the question. At all. It was, "Who gave penn the worse beating?" It doesn't matter what penn did back to them or not, that wasn't the question. He got HANDLED by nick, and that doesn't happen. Didn't even happen by gsp. Phone Post
11/1/11 9:56 AM
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Strykr619 - So losing by decision is worse then throwing in the towel.....

Think about that 4 a moment... Phone Post
If GSP/Penn would have been 3 rounds, it would have been a decision.
If Diaz/Penn would have been 5 rounds, there would have been towels thrown (if the doctor didn't stop the fight after round 3).
The fact that GSP finished him is an invalid point.

My vote goes to Diaz, especially when he basically said in the press conference he wasn't 100% into the fight.
To whoever made the football analogy, that's like a team winning 31-7, then coming out and saying after the game they weren't even really trying. It's more demoralizing than a team winning 28-0 but going 100% the entire game. Phone Post


that is a very funny post kkm

"If GSP/Penn would have been 3 rounds, it would have been a decision" -> you don't know that

"If Diaz/Penn would have been 5 rounds, there would have been towels thrown" -> you don't know that

"My vote goes to Diaz, especially when he basically said in the press conference he wasn't 100% into the fight."

i guess that makes it valid. imagine what he would have done if he really wanted to win. oh my, BJ would have been dead.
If gsp/penn had been 3 rounds it WOULD have been a decision win. Cuz it went to the 4th round without ending. Which means it would THEN be left to a decision from the judges. Phone Post
11/1/11 9:57 AM
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GSP made him quit. That is the definition of a beat down - especially after all the shit talking that took place.
11/1/11 9:58 AM
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DaemonDragon - People are saying Penn wouldn't have made it to the 5th against Diaz - honestly, I'm not sure he would have made it *TO* the 4th.

If this was a 5 round fight there is a very good chance the fight would have been stopped after 3 rounds due to Penn's eye. Also Penn's corner may have thrown in the towel because of the sheer degree of ass whupping inflicted.

If GSP-Penn II had been 3 rounds instead of 4 people around here would be much less impressed with what GSP did.

GSP dominated Penn more than Diaz did, in terms of offensive differential. Penn did nothing vs. GSP. But Diaz without question fucked Penn up worse. I don't think it's that close.

Like others have already said, GSP made him want to quit one fight, Diaz made him consider retirement.

I hope Penn does come back to fight again - but only after a prolonged absence to let his body heal. He got ravaged.


Yup.
11/1/11 9:59 AM
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Smith1234 - Correct answer was GSP, who had a total blowout and wasn't touched.

Whereas Nick lost a round and took some damage.


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11/1/11 10:19 AM
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DreamAnnouncerLadyVoice - ONLY A NICK HATER will pick otherwise ....



either that or someone who looks at fights objectively.
11/1/11 10:31 AM
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DaemonDragon - 

Diaz has like 15 pounds on Penn himself. All WWs are much larger than Penn. 



What makes you say/think "Diaz has like 15 pounds on Penn"???????

Watch the video provided and start at the 2 minute mark for BJ, 3 minute mark for Diaz.  

Are you still in belief that there is a 15, or even a 10 lb weigh difference?

11/1/11 10:34 AM
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 GSP completely shut him down. Diaz really beat him up.
11/1/11 10:47 AM
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 Maybe I'm to blame for creating an unfair poll as we are comparing GSP, a guy who was fighting his 2nd fight against BJ and had the fight for 5 rds as opposed to Nick who was fighting BJ for the first time, and only for 3 rounds.


One BIG stat that has yet to be mentioned, is that going into the GSP 5 round title fight, BJ Penn had his 3 previous fights at LW.  Three LW fights, and then you jump up a weight class to take on GSP.

Before facing Diaz, BJ Penn had his previous 2 fights at WW before taking on WW Nick Diaz.

In my objective opinion(and I say that b/c GSP AND Nick Diaz are fucking awesome bad ass mo fos), GSP clearly had the weight/strength advantage over BJ and utilized that in his fight. Kudos for GSP, BUT, Nick Diaz didn't have a significant weight Or strength advantage and won the fight more so on skill rather than gameplan.

Diaz had a gameplan which was to win where the fight went.  GSP had a gameplan which was to first tire BJ out, get his shoulders/arms tired(he has stated this in an interview), and later on, mix it up with stand up and takedowns.


Taking into account the following variables:
1.Penn fighting 2 fights at ww before Nick vs Penn fighting 3 fights at LW before fighting GSP
2.Diaz fighting Penn for the first time compared to GSP fighting Penn the 2nd time
3.Diaz having 3 rounds vs GSP having 5

My opinion is that it's close enough to go either way, but given the same playing field from the fights I've seen of both, Diaz would have ended up dropping or submitting Penn before Penn would get dropped(by a punch) or submitted by GSP. 
11/1/11 11:37 AM
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GSP broke him mentally, forcing him to verbally quit between rounds. Months later BJ was still talking about the loss. Still attempting to make excuses.
11/1/11 11:54 AM
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 its noteable that gsp took no damage vs bj, nick took quite a bit.
11/1/11 12:07 PM
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Since they were both 3 rounders shouldn't we be comparing GSP/BJ1?
11/1/11 1:40 PM
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Ornoku - Since they were both 3 rounders shouldn't we be comparing GSP/BJ1?

 No comparison
11/1/11 1:45 PM
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GSP beatdown BJ every round, didnt itleast one of the judges give the first round to BJ in the BJ Diaz fight?

BJ didnt quit against Diaz, he always felt like he was one big punch away from winning the fight. GSP left him completely hopeless and helpless

Also lets compare how GSP looked at the end of GSP/BJ2 and how Nick looked at the end of his fight with BJ. BJ beat up his face pretty good and left him pretty damn bruised. I didnt see a mark on GSP in his 2nd fight.
11/1/11 4:06 PM
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 GSP imo.

Nick smacked him around and dominated the bulk of the fight.

GSP took something he can never get back.

BJ seemed more frustrated and disgusted after the Diaz match.

He had specifically asked for a second crack at GSP after the first fight was competitive. He had no idea how much GSP had improved.


11/1/11 4:11 PM
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Diaz. The ref would have been forced to stop it in the 4th round had there been one. BJ did have more success against Nick than he did in the 2nd GSP fight, but Nick was going to finish him for sure.
11/1/11 4:43 PM
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Remeber he fougt a greasy GSP , stylistically it wasnt going to happen. Nick out fought Bj.

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