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11/9/11 9:42 AM
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A couple of questions when did they stop doing this? The last time i heard it mentioned anywhere was for the Damien Riccio vs Robin Gracie fight.

According to Wiki it says that (with regard to Rorian):

'A common myth was that Gracie backed-up his challenges with a $100,000 guarantee, that he would pay the winner $100,000 should he lose.'

Was this just for Rorian challenges? This poster looks like Robin is offering money if he loses (can someone translate this):

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Robin Gracie vs. Riccio Challenge Fight:



The was also a big backlash from Royce and crew that ended in a barfight.
11/9/11 9:44 AM
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They stopped when people caught on. Details on the bar fight?
11/9/11 9:47 AM
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krang - They stopped when people caught on. Details on the bar fight?


There is a still from a security camera doing the rounds.

Gracies filmed it but then calimed 'it was too dark to see'.

There was a big back and forth on the UG when it happened between Royce and Riccio.
11/9/11 9:53 AM
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In before someone posts the greatest picture in UG history.
11/9/11 9:55 AM
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Can anyone translate the spanish on the poster?

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Its a serious thread not just a set up for the pic. Honest.
11/9/11 10:03 AM
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I understand that the challenger was offered 10 to 1 on their money. If the challenger put up $10,000, the Gracies would put up $100,000. Or the challenger could just fight for free. Most fights were for free.
11/9/11 10:05 AM
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 In.  I'm curious about this.
11/9/11 10:08 AM
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11/9/11 10:11 AM
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 On the Spencer Fisher thing I watched the other day, he talked about doing it.  I don't think there was any mention of money, but he ended up fighting 4 different dudes from what I remember.   Maybe he got subbed twice, I think...but also landed a big punch on the last guy and they called it a draw?

I remember waaay back, maybe in 98 or 99 on here, there was a guy named Ronald G who was supposedly a soccer player from somewhere in Europe who was going to Cali to do it and he never posted again, lol.

I'm guessing some of them are on the GIA tapes.

Oh and Joe Pardo?  and maybe another guy who fought in UFC once were dudes who'd fight guys who'd come in for the challenge, iirc.
11/9/11 10:16 AM
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Never heard of Spencer Fisher doing one? vs Who and when?
11/9/11 10:21 AM
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LOL that picture is a classic. I still have it saved on my computer. Poor little pepe.

Those were the days =)
11/9/11 10:23 AM
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From: RoyceGracie
Date: 29-May-03 12:38 PM
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The guy show up at Robin's seminar and started to talk shit and wanted to fight Robin, so Robin did. Then fought the guy punch Robin and Robin shot in, the guy spralled, Robin pulled guard and punch him from the guard, the blood on Robin's shirt is from the guys face. Then the fight stopped. Robin said to the guy that they should setup a time anytime he wants to and have a fight for real. The guy started talking shit about my family and all my borothers and all the Brazilians saying that they are nothing. I am in Spain right now, I am going to take care of this m****er. Robin invited him to my seminar this weekend so that we can have a fight and I will show him what Brazilians are all about, he guy already back down, saying that he has to work that weekend, but he will try. Well if he dont come, I will go see him. that is the story.
11/9/11 10:25 AM
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^I actually have the entire threads somewhere (I think there were 2 or 3).
11/9/11 10:26 AM
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But why did Royce have to kill little pepe? He could have just choked him and stopped right? Does the challenge always end in death?
11/9/11 10:26 AM
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Riccio's reply

For ROYCE GRACIE AND RODRIGO HI

i'm damien RICCIO the guys who challenge your brother Robin during a seminar in My town PERPIGNAN in FRANCE.

You talk very trash about me and something you don't know.

I DID WHAT YOU ALWAYS DID TO MAKE YOUR NAME KNOWN!!!!

I challenged him very pleasantly respectfull and he agrees. He could say no and i got back but he accept smily and say ok. I got back and let Robin finish his seminar (without loosing any energy with rolling with guys).

I came back for fighting and Robin tapped down after a complete domination.

So what is the problem????

Do you remember one thing :"GRACIE CHALLENGE"!!!????

What can we see in GRACIE IN ACTION!!!???

Where is the problem???

The only problem is that: he accepted and lost in what you claimed to be undefeated :REAL FIGHT.

So I never disrespect your family or Brasilians.

I told to Robin that you were my idol because when I saw royce and rickson for the First time on UFC and VALE TUDO it was for me a dream.

BUT NOW : I saw you insult me and disrespect me and I am very very surprised.

But right now I do not respect you at all for your trash talking about me and I am very disapointed by your attitude.

But right now by these words I know that you are not respectfull people and you will never beat me.

you just act like bad streetfighter and not professional and I know i will crush you.

SO now RODRIGO I tell it to you : you are a son of bitch and you will be the easier Gracie to beat regarding your poors bad fights in Pride.

ROYCE I am now injure because of two long fight in 2 weeks but i accept your challenge when you want.

But for this week end i cannot fight but my young brother MATTHIAS will be happy to kick your ass if you come in my town.

Contact me at damienriccio@hotmail.com and let's see.

By the way we are too 7 RICCIO.

I have a big family like you and we are ready for the war...

sorry for my bad english.

DAMIEN RICCIO
11/9/11 10:29 AM
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From: RoyceGracie
Date: 30-May-03 12:16 PM
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Let me tell you something, in Gracie in Action they came to our school, not challange us in the seminars, and if you saw it, they all got their asses kicked.
That is what is going to happend to you your brothers or anyone else.

You want to come and crash seminars, come and crash mine. I am ready for you your brothers and anyone else.

From: Rodrigo Gracie
Date: 31-May-03 01:30 AM
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You call your self a professional?Walking in the middle of the seminar to fight my cousin unprepared? For me you are a nobody and a pussy.Royce is an hour away from you and you already pussy out.All i have to say is "is going to be a surprise party".I saw your fight and checked your background, YOU REALLY SUCK! If robin was prepared you would be raped. Pride??keep dreaming...This is personal! I'll see the rest of you soon, after Royce and Robin break your face.
11/9/11 10:31 AM
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ferox13 - Can anyone translate the spanish on the poster?

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Its a serious thread not just a set up for the pic. Honest.
"Practise martial arts but haven't trained Gracie jiu jitsu?
You can win 1 million pesetas by beating in combat Robin Gracie, BJJ black belt"

Then something about winning 100,000 for beating a white belt. That's the gist of it anyway, I'm on a phone so it's a bit sloppy. Phone Post
11/9/11 10:35 AM
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ferox13 - Can anyone translate the spanish on the poster?

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Its a serious thread not just a set up for the pic. Honest.
"Practise martial arts but haven't trained Gracie jiu jitsu?<br>You can win 1 million pesetas by beating in combat Robin Gracie, BJJ black belt"<br><br>Then something about winning 100,000 for beating a white belt. That's the gist of it anyway, I'm on a phone so it's a bit sloppy. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


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11/9/11 10:42 AM
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11/9/11 10:56 AM
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11/9/11 11:08 AM
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Thanks rbl.

I wonder how old the poster is?
11/9/11 11:22 AM
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This was an epic drama that unfolded on the UG that was larger than life when it happened. It would be a disservice to the martial arts community to not share the thread as it unfolded in its entirety. The thread was also beautifully illustrated by graphic artist, bobs.










11/9/11 11:26 AM
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Crowbar, you da man.
11/9/11 11:37 AM
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For me, the 3 events that really stand out to me in UG history are this; when Bobsappfan fought Erik Apple; and when Hermes Franca fought Manny Reyes
11/9/11 11:43 AM
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Mr.Negative -  ahhhhhh...the good old days.


For me, the 3 events that really stand out to me in UG history are this; when Bobsappfan fought Erik Apple; and when Hermes Franca fought Manny Reyes


*hangs head in shame*

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