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Hawai'i Underground >> mad HESPEK for NICK DIAZ. gdi man.


11/10/11 4:22 PM
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“Yeah, well, I looked up to him for his art and his style. I didn’t really look up to him personally. I think he is a good guy. He’s not a bad guy at all, but I didn’t look up to him personally like a teacher or something. Some of the things he did in the past, I didn’t agree with. He was originally a Ralph Gracie student, and what he learned there was some incredible things and that was 3 to 4 years before I even got put onto it. He was learning it from a real instructor and I didn’t have that at the time. I would have represented where I came from if I did have that. I just don’t think he put out the respect to Ralph that I would have. I was also a martial artist first before I started learning Jiu Jitsu and I just remember him because he came from Ralph Gracie Jiu Jitsu and that’s what we have in common. We learned the same Jiu Jitsu and it shows up; blocking high guard, being in bad positions, and still being able to fight because we came from the same background that I came from pretty much. I just have a little bit more respect for where I came from. You don’t see me going around saying, “Diaz MMA, Diaz MMA, Diaz Fight Gym and Diaz Training Camp!” I came from Cesar Gracie Jiu Jitsu when I was 16. I trained with Gil Castillo, Steve Heath, Dave Tirrell, and Jake Shields, and that’s who I am. That’s who I’m always going to be and that’s the reason why I am who I am today because I came from there. And where did BJ Penn come from? He came from BJ Penn Hawaii or what? He don’t come from nothing. None of these people do. You know where Georges St. Pierre comes from? I just had a conversation about this last night.”

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“He came from a Renzo Gracie Black Belt; I forget his name. He is a Renzo Gracie Black Belt though and this is the guy who taught Georges St. Pierre. So Georges St. Pierre wouldn’t even be capable of being a contender or choking anybody or knowing dominant positions or any of that if he didn’t have the same Jiu Jitsu that I learned from the same family. You only gotta go down a few generations to find out where this came from. We all got our Jiu Jitsu from the same place; BJ Penn, Georges St. Pierre and me. They gotta respect and understand where the martial arts that we use come from. They want to feel so special and important and say, “Look at me!” I’m saying, “This is Cesar Gracie Jiu Jitsu,” and I represent where my training comes from. I always represent my boxing trainer and who he…Richard Perez and the people that I train with, you know? The only thing that I’m going to ever represent is my team that helped me get there, you know?”

11/10/11 4:22 PM
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he is now, my favorite fighter.
11/10/11 5:41 PM
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Sounds like the followers of David Koresh to me. Phone Post
11/10/11 5:42 PM
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Mark, didn't you leave Judo to learn BJJ? Kind of goes against the Diaz philosophy. Phone Post
11/10/11 5:54 PM
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nope, the diaz philosophy and mine are in place. i still thank my judo instructor in japan and haven't under-represented my roots.

ps. i never left judo. judo left me.
11/10/11 5:56 PM
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But shouldn't you stay 100% judo till death? You dirtied the pure waters with Brazilian martial arts techniques. Phone Post
11/10/11 6:22 PM
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there is no such thing as 100% judo anymore. not even access to it.

gjj is the closest thing to it.
11/10/11 6:59 PM
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I really wish there weren't any antagonism between Judo and BJJ. David Camarillo's approach of harmonious integration is what should be happening on a wider scale.
11/10/11 7:10 PM
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Magnum TA - Sounds like the followers of David Koresh to me. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Magnum TA - Mark, didn't you leave Judo to learn BJJ?

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11/10/11 7:38 PM
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I am just making an observation. The Branch Davidians were loyal. Phone Post
11/10/11 8:16 PM
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FCTV808 - there is no such thing as 100% judo anymore. not even access to it.

gjj is the closest thing to it.


TROOF!

Years ago an old Judoka from way back told me GJJ is pretty much just Pre-war judo. I had an old Judo book from 1943 looked like a couple GJJ/BJJ books.


Kano is pissed?

Kimura is sad?

Mark feels abandoned?


LOL?
11/10/11 8:24 PM
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FCTV808 - 
ps. i never left judo. judo left me.


I am sad to hear my Japanese friends of longstanding judo families say the same thing.


As for Nick, he should take the budo to heart. He has the fighting spirit but not the martial arts integrity. Maybe if he took some TMA first and foremost he'd represent that too and show some restraint and humility.
11/10/11 8:34 PM
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His lack of Budo is what makes him a great fighter IMO. Phone Post
11/10/11 8:36 PM
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FCTV808 - there is no such thing as 100% judo anymore. not even access to it.

gjj is the closest thing to it.


Btw FCTV, what is 100% judo?

By the time I started learning at a formal dojo in the 90s, they were limiting chokes and not to soon after armbars.

I remember my friends who grew up in judo families said they all learned the judo katas with atemi strikes. Nobody else I know who took judo knows them.
11/11/11 2:30 AM
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Diaz is truly the fighters fighter imo hope he finally gets his dues cause hes paid them in full

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