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12/14/11 7:18 PM
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NECKCRANK808
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Honestly I think most people aren"t bashing him just because its not cool to pick on a retard

but honestly I hope he isn't charging anyone for lessons


On another note can all of you fine people who have had the pleasure of training with the grand master pedro please come forward '

LMAO @ gracie tigers
12/14/11 7:20 PM
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I have trained with some of his guys once but he didn't roll with me. Phone Post
12/14/11 7:21 PM
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Jimmy, he told he will be charging down the road. I doubt it would be very much as he seems to attract the ones with no $ to spend. Phone Post
12/14/11 7:31 PM
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Nothing on "OSS to his Ossumness"?

I was kind of proud of that one. And
I'm not even drunk!! Phone Post
12/14/11 8:13 PM
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Magnum TA
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"now this motherfucker has the audacity put on a gi for the first time and give himself a black belt."

It's amazing that DC wearing a Halloween outfit could draw such emotion. Phone Post
12/14/11 8:16 PM
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Yeah. I'm not real keen on fraudelent behavior. It kind of bugs me.
12/14/11 9:01 PM
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It shouldn't bother you so much. If you are going to complain about him at least be consistent and complain about the majority of people out there wearing belts they did nothing to earn. Curty purchasing his black belt at OTM shop is amusing and nothing more. Phone Post
12/14/11 9:27 PM
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Give me specific examples of who you think did nothing to deserve whatever belt they are wearing. Phone Post
12/14/11 9:31 PM
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Curty has never beaten a black belt in competition so he has that in common with most of the black belts residing on this island. Unlike most he has actually fought several times (albeit poorly) Phone Post
12/14/11 9:33 PM
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I am not saying he deserves the rank but most people don't either. If you are going to pick on him and blindly leave out the others that's unfair IMO. Just take it for what it is another guy wearing a rank they shouldn't be. Phone Post
12/14/11 9:49 PM
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The only way to shore up fraudulent BJJ promotions is to make competition mandatory like wrestling and MMA do. That's the only way to truly "earn" what you get by taking it from someone else. That's how our gym is doing it now. You don't get promoted unless you compete and win. Phone Post
12/14/11 10:21 PM
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Magnum TA - The only way to shore up fraudulent BJJ promotions is to make competition mandatory like wrestling and MMA do. That's the only way to truly "earn" what you get by taking it from someone else. That's how our gym is doing it now. You don't get promoted unless you compete and win. Phone Post



Ahhhh the old "competition standard" LOL!

So anybody that didn't compete is fraudulent?

BJJ made it's fukin bones on VT not sport.... so really, let's have that as the fukin standard! At least then BJJ would maintain it's fighting heritage instead of drifting further down the pathetic path it seems to be going.
12/14/11 10:29 PM
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Magnum TA - The only way to shore up fraudulent BJJ promotions is to make competition mandatory like wrestling and MMA do. That's the only way to truly "earn" what you get by taking it from someone else. That's how our gym is doing it now. You don't get promoted unless you compete and win. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


I am curious to know your opinion on John Danaher, Renzo's BB who never competed, but regularly taps BB's in practice.

I don't really have an opinion on the issue myself, since the other martial arts I've been involved in all have varying conceptions of what a black belt is.
12/14/11 10:30 PM
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Name names fraud atkins or Im porking your old lady again
12/14/11 11:12 PM
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First off how am I picking on him blindly? He self promoted to black belt and intends on charging people money to learn garbage? I didn't one day just wake up randomly pool all know Hawaii black belts in my head and randomly land on Curty.

Second, I asked for specific examples of others who "don't deserve their rank". Rather thank take pot shots at people why don't you stop being a bitch and name names. Phone Post
12/14/11 11:21 PM
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Rereading this thread now that I'm off work, I should've not added to this thread since it's the same thread ad nauseam for the nth time. Serves me right for trying to read this while pretending to listen to another office woman whine and complain about shit.

Anyway, Magnum, I have no idea if your trolling again or want to engage us in serious discussion.

So before I re-engage here, I'm going to eat and have sex. Maybe both at the same time.

By that time I expect your 'working definition' of what a bjj blackbelt is, before we pursue this discussion any further.

Thank you.
12/14/11 11:37 PM
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MOB U2 - Rereading this thread now that I'm off work, I should've not added to this thread since it's the same thread ad nauseam for the nth time. Serves me right for trying to read this while pretending to listen to another office woman whine and complain about shit.

Anyway, Magnum, I have no idea if your trolling again or want to engage us in serious discussion.

So before I re-engage here, I'm going to eat and have sex. Maybe both at the same time.

By that time I expect your 'working definition' of what a bjj blackbelt is, before we pursue this discussion any further.

Thank you.


and examples of fraudulent BBs!
12/14/11 11:53 PM
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 SUBD for Island BB Frauds!!
12/15/11 12:53 AM
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Who do you think on this island could compete a good BB and not get humiliated? The numbers are actually quite small. Phone Post
12/15/11 12:55 AM
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"Ahhhh the old "competition standard" LOL!"

The only proven standard through the test of time. Phone Post
12/15/11 1:15 AM
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Magnum TA -  Who do you think on this island could compete a good BB and not get humiliated? The numbers are actually quite small. Phone Post

 Dude- it's really simple, produce some names or retract your statements. 
12/15/11 1:24 AM
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No I don't. Curty gave himself himself a loyalty belt and many others have them. Why throw a hissy fit over it? The sheep of Oahu are not going to flock to Team Submit so you are still safe to overcharge people for 3 nights a week of BJJ lessons. Phone Post
12/15/11 1:29 AM
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IMO the number of BB on this island who could enter and compete against another good one are small. Maybe not even enough to count on 2 hands. Curty has the qualification of not competing and never having tapped a black belt. He has been "loyal" for many years which another qualification. Who cares if he can't execute the moves against someone thats good. That's not a requirement anymore!!! Phone Post
12/15/11 1:38 AM
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Magnum TA - "Ahhhh the old "competition standard" LOL!"

The only proven standard through the test of time. Phone Post


The proven standard is VT and defensive use of fundamental BJJ technique.....notsport ofwhich there are differing rules,strategies and tactics depending upon which org is putting on the show.

Answer Mobs question....and name names or STFU!
12/15/11 1:45 AM
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Who has shown VT profiency? Phone Post

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