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12/18/11 8:16 AM
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"It's been a roller-coaster trying to stay focused with all of this," Melendez told MMAjunkie.com following his win over Jorge Masvidal Saturday night. "I've got people telling me I'm going to the UFC. I've got people telling me I'm not. I also bring this pressure on myself saying I'm No. 1, you know what I mean? You've got to back it up when you talk like that.

"I've just got to have faith. What can I do? I've got no time to be crying or be negative about a------- I've just got to stay focused and see what they bring to the table. We'll go from there."

Melendez didn't manage to wow his detractors, who say if the Strikeforce lightweight champ is truly UFC material, he should have dispatched of Masvidal.

"If that's what they think, then they don't understand MMA," Melendez said. "MMA is a really complex sport. Guy A could beat Guy B. Guy B could beat Guy C. Guy C could beat Guy A sometimes, you know what I mean? You've go to be able to beat every kind of style out there.

"MMA is styles, and Jorge happens to be one of the toughest matchups stylistically for me – another great sprawl-and-brawler, another great striker. That's what makes for a good fight. The fact that I could beat a guy of that caliber at our own game is a big win for me. Somebody like Aoki, I could dominate. He might tap somebody out real quick that I couldn't do that to, but my jiu-jitsu is good enough to hang with guys like that. They're pretty ignorant if that's what they think because they don't understand MMA."

"Just look at my record. Look at your history. I've been around the sport a long time. I've got more fights than a lot of those guys. I don't know. I'm sick of saying it. I just hope I can keep proving it in the cage.

"I put it out there. I think I'm one of the top guys out there, and I would like to prove I'm No. 1. I'll just continue walking the walk instead of talking the talk. I'm sick of talking about it."

"It would have been nice to put [Masvidal] on his back and stuff. You could tell he was working his takedown pretty well. But the striking was going well, so I wasn't too eager on [taking the fight to the floor]. Things were going my way, so I kept it going that way. I was looking for the shot, but the guy's freaking bad. He's amazing. He's an amazing fighter. Hopefully he gets a lot of credit from this fight because he's a freaking stud. He's a guy that I'd like to see matched up with some of those UFC guys, too. I think he'd clown lots of that guys. That's just how I feel. I respect him."

"I'm happy to be a part of Strikeforce and Showtime. I've got faith that they're going to do what's good for me. Dana told me that. 'It's going to be great for your career.'

"When I signed with Strikeforce, I was like, 'I don't know, Scott.' Then I was fighting on Showtime. I'm like, 'Alright, I don't know, Scott,' and then he brings me Aoki, the No. 2 fighter in the world. Then I get a great challenge like Jorge. A lot of people underrate him. For me, this was a big win for me to get. Jorge is a guy I've seen in the circuit for a long time. I guess what I'm trying to get at is they manage to deliver for me, and I've got to continue to have faith that they will continue to deliver for me.

"We'll all sit down together, and we'll start talking. I think I'm in a position to ask some questions, and we'll ask some questions and see what's next."

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12/18/11 8:23 AM
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 He's 1000% correct. He has great character and is a champ worthy of the belt.
12/18/11 8:35 AM
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ABE FROMAN -  He's 1000% correct. He has great character and is a champ worthy of the belt.
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12/18/11 9:15 AM
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Gil wouldn't even be a relevant LW if he were in the UFC. Phone Post
12/18/11 9:15 AM
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Well, when he puts it like that...

lol

Really though, what he says makes allot of sense.

Masvidal has proven himself to be a hell of a tough guy to finish.
Look at his fight with Paul Daley.

How many shots did Daley even land on him, let alone hurt him with, and Daley is one of the most feared strikers in mma.

Yeah, I think it's time to see some cross-over bouts with some UFC guys.

12/18/11 9:21 AM
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 He's right, Masvidal is a tough style match-up for a LOT of guys not just him. He has a way of making good fighters look bad, even in victory.

Conversely, I'd say Frankie's an even faster and more technical version of both of them at the same thing. Going into this fight I thought Gil would be the man to take Edgar out, but that fight is gonna be troublesome.

I still think Melendez/Edgar is the best fight at 155 right now, though. Gil's certainly got the skills to take it, Frank's just gonna make it far harder on him than I woulda thought after he murdered Kawajiri earlier this year.
12/18/11 9:37 AM
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12/18/11 9:37 AM
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12/18/11 10:19 AM
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Melendez could be UFC champ, and anyone saying otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

This place is like clockwork. Unless a fighter goes out there and completely mops the floor with their opponents they aren't worth shit. Melendez just pitched a 5 round shut out, and out-struck a fighter known as one of the more technical strikers in the division. Masvidal is also very hard to finish. Criticizing Gilbert for this performance is ridiculous. Phone Post
12/18/11 10:39 AM
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 He's definitely good, but he'll never be considered the best LW in the world being the champ of SF.  Best thing for his career would be to go to the UFC and get a chance to prove he's the best
12/18/11 10:41 AM
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12/18/11 10:42 AM
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12/18/11 10:58 AM
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12/18/11 11:00 AM
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caposa - Melendez could be UFC champ, and anyone saying otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

This place is like clockwork. Unless a fighter goes out there and completely mops the floor with their opponents they aren't worth shit. Melendez just pitched a 5 round shut out, and out-struck a fighter known as one of the more technical strikers in the division. Masvidal is also very hard to finish. Criticizing Gilbert for this performance is ridiculous. Phone Post

Caposa ur one of my favs here but the fight was one of the most boring ive ever seen Each round was a carbon copy .As a matter of fact the card was one of the worst ove ever seen
12/18/11 11:01 AM
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I think the funny part is everyone watching the fight and on the forum last night thought it was "ok" or "terrible". Now that he has released a statement, there is an amazing consensus that he's "the best of the best of the best" and deserves no criticism.

It's okay if you believe either point of view - but it should be YOUR point of view, not just one you regurgitated from the fighter or the journalist.
12/18/11 11:08 AM
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caposa - Melendez could be UFC champ, and anyone saying otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

This place is like clockwork. Unless a fighter goes out there and completely mops the floor with their opponents they aren't worth shit. Melendez just pitched a 5 round shut out, and out-struck a fighter known as one of the more technical strikers in the division. Masvidal is also very hard to finish. Criticizing Gilbert for this performance is ridiculous. Phone Post

Caposa ur one of my favs here but the fight was one of the most boring ive ever seen Each round was a carbon copy .As a matter of fact the card was one of the worst ove ever seen
I never claimed the fight was exciting. All I said was that it was a one-sided performance and Gil beat Masvidal as his own game. I don't feel like Melendez deserves the heat he's getting for not finishing the fight. Phone Post
12/18/11 11:11 AM
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Edgar/Melendez would be a great matchup, but I personally think Benson is gonna take Edgars belt and then everything will switch over to Henderson/Melendez and I think Benson would be too much for Melendez to handle. Phone Post
12/18/11 11:17 AM
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Gil would fold you up and roll you down the street fatboy.
12/18/11 11:17 AM
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He can be a big fish in a small pond at Strikeforce or be a small fish in the UFC.

Not sure Dana's going to give him a call after his last performance.
12/18/11 11:18 AM
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frederic - He can be a big fish in a small pond at Strikeforce or be a small fish in the UFC.

Not sure Dana's going to give him a call after his last performance.

 Lackluster fight or not, that clowning he put on Kawajiri earlier this year alone is enough in my books to want him fighting elite UFC contenders.
12/18/11 11:26 AM
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frederic - He can be a big fish in a small pond at Strikeforce or be a small fish in the UFC.

Not sure Dana's going to give him a call after his last performance.
Huge Gil fan but I agree.
I know he'll give a great fight to Maynard, Edgar and Bendo, and may win those fights.
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12/18/11 11:57 AM
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caposa - Melendez could be UFC champ, and anyone saying otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about.

This place is like clockwork. Unless a fighter goes out there and completely mops the floor with their opponents they aren't worth shit. Melendez just pitched a 5 round shut out, and out-struck a fighter known as one of the more technical strikers in the division. Masvidal is also very hard to finish. Criticizing Gilbert for this performance is ridiculous. Phone Post

Caposa ur one of my favs here but the fight was one of the most boring ive ever seen Each round was a carbon copy .As a matter of fact the card was one of the worst ove ever seen
I never claimed the fight was exciting. All I said was that it was a one-sided performance and Gil beat Masvidal as his own game. I don't feel like Melendez deserves the heat he's getting for not finishing the fight. Phone Post

i agree Melendez clearly won But took not one risk to finish.No ground in 5 rounds of pitter patter zzzzzzzzzzzz.Wheres the wrestlimg wheres the jiujitsu .NObody wants to see passive standup for 5 rpounds of not wanting to lose
12/18/11 12:17 PM
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Around here a fight is boring if there is not a KO or submission. It doesn't matter if the fight has great footwork, great pace, great tactics , excellent defensive or offensive wrestling! When skill levels get high, finishes decline ! But I guess if you want to see finished fights just go over to your local bar who is having unsanctioned bouts and you will see some great finishes. And those are prolly the same guys who could win a UFC title. Phone Post
12/18/11 12:20 PM
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lifeaftrprison - Around here a fight is boring if there is not a KO or submission. It doesn't matter if the fight has great footwork, great pace, great tactics , excellent defensive or offensive wrestling! When skill levels get high, finishes decline ! But I guess if you want to see finished fights just go over to your local bar who is having unsanctioned bouts and you will see some great finishes. And those are prolly the same guys who could win a UFC title. Phone Post

no i want fighters to try nand finish that fight was 5 rounds of standup where honestly nothing happened the entire fight.Wheres the jiujitsu,wrestling ? 5 rounds of boring standup where neither fighter took 1 chance to finish the fight.If this was UFC 1 the fight would have past 6 hours
12/18/11 12:22 PM
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 Melendez fought a smart fight and really limited the opportunities Jorge has. He also stifled Jorge's rhythm and Jorge failed to pull the trigger. I'm a fan of both.

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