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1/5/12 4:23 PM
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PrettyCoolGuy
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I agree, but it does kinda make sense only when coming from the participating fighters point of view. "I can't believe not even 1 judge gave it to me" when losing a close fight, stuff like that.

But if judging was perfect then split decisions wouldn't exist.
1/5/12 4:24 PM
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MMApurist - I agree for the most part, but when I am watching a fight with 3 people and it is really really close, I don't expect everyone to see it exactly the same way. People look at and favor different things making it way more subjective than say boxing. When they say their own score it should be as you said but when predicting 3 peoples different scores, I think you can say it could be split.



this doesn't even make sense.

If all three judges score it for one fighter, then its a unanimous decision. It doesn't matter what they scored each round.

It's pretty clear why op made this thread now with all the stupid responses in this thread.
1/5/12 4:24 PM
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Judge 1: 30-30
Judge 2: 30-27  Fighter A
Judge 3: 30-27  Fighter A

What would  this would be besides "Ah fuck, Cecil's fucking up again."?

Majority Decision?
1/5/12 4:25 PM
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Samoanpowr - Judge 1: 30-30
Judge 2: 30-27  Fighter A
Judge 3: 30-27  Fighter A

What would  this would be besides "Ah fuck, Cecil's fucking up again."?

Majority Decision?



yes, that would be a majority decision
1/5/12 4:31 PM
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30-30
30-30
30-30

Unanimous Draw?  Or just "Draw"?
1/5/12 4:33 PM
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Of course if all 3 judges score it for one fighter it is unanimous. But in the case of 3 close rounds sometimes you get

Judge 1: 29-28
Judge 2: 28-29
Judge 3: 29-28

For example the recent fight with Ebersole vs Patrick in Canada. I don't expect everyone to score it the same way. I was in a room with 3 people and we had it 2 to 1 for Ebersole hence a split decision.
1/5/12 4:35 PM
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30-30
30-29  Fighter A
30-29  Fighter B

Split Draw?  Or just Draw? 
1/5/12 4:36 PM
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MMApurist - Of course if all 3 judges score it for one fighter it is unanimous. But in the case of 3 close rounds sometimes you get

Judge 1: 29-28
Judge 2: 28-29
Judge 3: 29-28

For example the recent fight with Ebersole vs Patrick in Canada. I don't expect everyone to score it the same way. I was in a room with 3 people and we had it 2 to 1 for Ebersole hence a split decision.


no shit.

If one judge scores it for another fighter than the other two judges score it for, then it's a split decision. Nobody is arguing any different. I think you missed the point of this thread.
1/5/12 4:41 PM
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 who are you calling 'you people' ? lol
1/5/12 4:42 PM
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WestsideStrangler -  Everyone.  I always hear guys saying that it should have been a split and not unanamous and that doesnt make sense.
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1/5/12 4:56 PM
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 I have even heard MMA Coaches at live shows say "How could they give him a Unanimous Decision" lol
1/5/12 4:59 PM
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I hear this shit all the time as well..

"Bro...I'll give it to you that he won that fight, but come on, a unanimous decision? Should have won, but it should have been a split decision!"
1/5/12 5:02 PM
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posted my response before reading through the thread..

MY GOD! This UG is filled with exactly the people OP was trying to educate.
1/5/12 5:16 PM
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1/5/12 5:30 PM
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Saying it could be a split decision and saying it should be a split decision are two different things..that is for the guy talking about the reality of three people having three different opinions.

Saying a fight should be a split decision is clearly retarded. On the other hand, I think it is perfectly reasonable to predict a split decision before the scorecards are read, as it is a pretty decent bet that a close that is perceived to be close will be scored differently by three judges. I only bring this up because I have seen many posters get flamed for predicting a split decision, which seems pretty legit to me when two fighters are evenly matched, with neither having a penchant for finishing.........
1/5/12 5:39 PM
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That's exactly what I meant. Some people just don't get it.
1/5/12 5:41 PM
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On the contrary, there are people arguing that a fight should have been a split decision after virtually every major event. It's maddening. The only way this makes any sense at all is to say "I can't believe not even one of the judges thought the other guy won," but hoping for split decisions means hoping for uneven, subjective judging.
1/5/12 6:11 PM
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1/5/12 6:11 PM
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Samoanpowr - 30-30
30-29  Fighter A
30-29  Fighter B

Split Draw?  Or just Draw? 


Split Draw.

Draw I thought. Phone Post
1/5/12 6:16 PM
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Never got people predicting split decisions for future fights. I get that they expect a close fight, but predicting that one judge will see it different than the others is becoming more of a random guess.
1/5/12 6:21 PM
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it's not as crazy as it sounds... i mean on a close round judges can go either way...

i've only predicted a few split decisions, typically you just go the easy route and say (unanimous) decision.

if you think a fight is going to be really, really close though you might predict a split or draw.

i don't know... never really even thought about it much until just now.
1/5/12 6:28 PM
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MMApurist - I agree for the most part, but when I am watching a fight with 3 people and it is really really close, I don't expect everyone to see it exactly the same way. People look at and favor different things making it way more subjective than say boxing. When they say their own score it should be as you said but when predicting 3 peoples different scores, I think you can say it could be split.
There's a difference between saying 'it was a close fight , I can see how it could be a split decision....or a win for either guy' and saying 'it SHOULD have been a split decision'...the latter makes no sense.

You're basically saying that you think either guy could've won, or it could've been a draw. Which is fine. But just say that. Phone Post
1/5/12 6:30 PM
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ufc98newb - Saying it could be a split decision and saying it should be a split decision are two different things..that is for the guy talking about the reality of three people having three different opinions.

Saying a fight should be a split decision is clearly retarded. On the other hand, I think it is perfectly reasonable to predict a split decision before the scorecards are read, as it is a pretty decent bet that a close that is perceived to be close will be scored differently by three judges. I only bring this up because I have seen many posters get flamed for predicting a split decision, which seems pretty legit to me when two fighters are evenly matched, with neither having a penchant for finishing.........
Fuck....^^^^^ this is what I meant.

Hadn't read your post before posting, sorry. Phone Post
1/5/12 6:31 PM
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Samoanpowr - 30-30
30-29  Fighter A
30-29  Fighter B

Split Draw?  Or just Draw? 
Were these guys staring at each other?

There are at least 6 10-10 rounds in that score Lol Phone Post
1/5/12 7:02 PM
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6 10-10 scores in that fight* Phone Post

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