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the personal attacks, and bringing up someone's prior fighting record as a way to make a point, are both out of line.

please, everyone just be cool when you speak your mind.


 
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 Bummer.....The Las Vegas Gun Store is the shit!!
1/22/12 3:07 PM
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First supporting SOPA.

Now this.

Fuck the UFC and Zuffa. I can find another sport to watch.

Fucking sellouts.
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As long as I know where I stand.
No, it's not, I didn't single anyone out by name, everyone should be free to state their opinions without their personal lives being brought into life. Phone Post
1/22/12 3:51 PM
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I find it interesting that the comparison is always made between basketball players and football players saying that they aren't allowed to pepper their jerseys with logos.
A pro football player plays where? The NFL.
A pro basketball player in the USA plays where? The NBA.
Where do pro fighters fight at? Any league that will have them as they strive to make it to the big show. Many pros fight for $500. Even once in one of the big shows, the money earned is not a living wage. Many have to work weekends bouncing and bartending.
Now what is the minimum wage for an NBA or NFL player?
The rookie minimum wage in the NBA last season was over $473,000.
Do they need the Gun Store logo on their shorts. Probably not. And let's look at their expenses. They have an agent. To my knowledge, that's about it unless they choose to have other trainers at their own cost.
An MMA fighter has an agent that he pays, a team he fights for that he trains at, that he pays, if he's good and has the money he has a muay thai coach, a Jits coach, a strength and conditioning coach, a diet coach and someone to help him cut weight.
And if he just made it to the big shows he MAY make 30k for the year. Minus 20% for management and training at least then a third for taxes and you're sitting at about 16k to live on for the entire year.
Sponsors have always been a huge source of income for fighters. I can't tell you how many times a sponsor showed up at just the right time and gave me food money. Literally.
When I fought Pete Sell the second time I was sponsored by Toyo tires. For two fights I had their logo on my shorts. For what? A set of tires. That would be about $800. $400 for two fights on primetime that have been shown over and over. Why did I do it? Because I was driving around on my spare and one other tire was filled with fix a flat. The belts were showing on the other tires.
You want to see the best a fighter can be? Buy his gear. Support the brands that sponsor him and send the companies emails letting them know you're buying their protein because they're sponsoring someone.
What's that you say? If you don't like it then quit? I do like it. In fact, I love it. That's why I lived in my buddies basement 2 nights a week to save on gas money. And I rode with other friends to practice to save on gas money. And I packed a lunch to practice. And I only wore clothes sponsors and other more successful fighters would give me. And I'd do it all over again.
If you got into fighting to be rich, you chose the wrong sport. Do it for the love and if you get rich that's a nice bonus.
But having those sponsors can sure make the ride easier.
My two cents.
1/22/12 3:59 PM
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I agree with this, its FOx's call.

They have the right to pick and choose who can sponsor an event and who cant.

1/22/12 3:59 PM
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I don't get how FOX allows NASCAR to advertise guns but UFC can't?

Or is this UFC banning them to look better in the eyes of FOX.

Because NASCAR fans LOVE guns.

They also like fights.

If UFC fighters sponsored by guns, ammo, etc., it might make these NASCAR fans view them differently and jump into this sport with their money.

And trust me, you want NASCAR fan money.

The fans might be stereotypes but they buy tickets and TONS of product.

Id rather have 10 NASCAR hicks as my fans than 1000 nerds.

Those 10 hicks will buy the merch.

Nerds just stream it. Phone Post
1/22/12 4:05 PM
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J_Swift - That's a bunch of bullshit. But I guess Foobs gonna foob. Phone Post
Oh and FOX will air Family guy with a baby shooting guns and wanting to kill his mom. But, grown men who fight for a living can't be sponsored by firearm industry businesses? Phone Post
This ^

And welcome to the new world order . Phone Post
1/22/12 4:12 PM
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JeffersonDArcyChoke - I don't get how FOX allows NASCAR to advertise guns but UFC can't?


I may be wrong, but I don't think I am, but there aren't any NASCAR drivers that have guns sponsors on their cars.

Some do have sporting good stores that sell guns as sponsors, but they are not allowed to have ILOVEGUNS.COM or some logo like that on their car.
1/22/12 4:16 PM
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Zuffa sold out on this Fox deal. I've been saying this from day one.

Little bits here and there. The old UFC we grew to love has been raped at the hands of greed. A dollar bill green windowless van driven by Dana White .

Shame on you zuffa . What's next ban beef jerky sponsors to appease the homosexuals at PETA ??? Ban car dealership sponsors from the 209 to some pansy ass electric hybrid ??? Banned condom sponsors thus PROMOTING UNSAFE SEX !!!

What message is being sent !!?? Who really is responsible for the decision to ban hunting and sporting sponsors ?? WHY!?

Zuffa the tyrant crushing all enemies both real and imagined in it's greed lust pursuit of domination and slavery.

You can keep your SOPA , your shitty music , and your new broadcast . Phone Post
1/22/12 4:31 PM
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Nate 'Rock' Quarry - I find it interesting that the comparison is always made between basketball players and football players saying that they aren't allowed to pepper their jerseys with logos.
A pro football player plays where? The NFL.
A pro basketball player in the USA plays where? The NBA.
Where do pro fighters fight at? Any league that will have them as they strive to make it to the big show. Many pros fight for $500. Even once in one of the big shows, the money earned is not a living wage. Many have to work weekends bouncing and bartending.
Now what is the minimum wage for an NBA or NFL player?
The rookie minimum wage in the NBA last season was over $473,000.
Do they need the Gun Store logo on their shorts. Probably not. And let's look at their expenses. They have an agent. To my knowledge, that's about it unless they choose to have other trainers at their own cost.
An MMA fighter has an agent that he pays, a team he fights for that he trains at, that he pays, if he's good and has the money he has a muay thai coach, a Jits coach, a strength and conditioning coach, a diet coach and someone to help him cut weight.
And if he just made it to the big shows he MAY make 30k for the year. Minus 20% for management and training at least then a third for taxes and you're sitting at about 16k to live on for the entire year.
Sponsors have always been a huge source of income for fighters. I can't tell you how many times a sponsor showed up at just the right time and gave me food money. Literally.
When I fought Pete Sell the second time I was sponsored by Toyo tires. For two fights I had their logo on my shorts. For what? A set of tires. That would be about $800. $400 for two fights on primetime that have been shown over and over. Why did I do it? Because I was driving around on my spare and one other tire was filled with fix a flat. The belts were showing on the other tires.
You want to see the best a fighter can be? Buy his gear. Support the brands that sponsor him and send the companies emails letting them know you're buying their protein because they're sponsoring someone.
What's that you say? If you don't like it then quit? I do like it. In fact, I love it. That's why I lived in my buddies basement 2 nights a week to save on gas money. And I rode with other friends to practice to save on gas money. And I packed a lunch to practice. And I only wore clothes sponsors and other more successful fighters would give me. And I'd do it all over again.
If you got into fighting to be rich, you chose the wrong sport. Do it for the love and if you get rich that's a nice bonus.
But having those sponsors can sure make the ride easier.
My two cents.

 
great post, thanks for taking the time Nate...
1/22/12 4:44 PM
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This sux for the gun store. Phone Post
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Prepare2Die -  Btw, you do pay taxes and are served by local police who are armed.


Whom courts have ruled and had upheld on appeal that they are not required to come to your aid... Yea, I wanna place my life in the hands of the police who may or may not come when called.

You go ahead and cower in your room, I'll protect my family by all means at my disposal.
1/22/12 4:48 PM
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Cyril Jeff -
Nate 'Rock' Quarry - I find it interesting that the comparison is always made between basketball players and football players saying that they aren't allowed to pepper their jerseys with logos.
A pro football player plays where? The NFL.
A pro basketball player in the USA plays where? The NBA.
Where do pro fighters fight at? Any league that will have them as they strive to make it to the big show. Many pros fight for $500. Even once in one of the big shows, the money earned is not a living wage. Many have to work weekends bouncing and bartending.
Now what is the minimum wage for an NBA or NFL player?
The rookie minimum wage in the NBA last season was over $473,000.
Do they need the Gun Store logo on their shorts. Probably not. And let's look at their expenses. They have an agent. To my knowledge, that's about it unless they choose to have other trainers at their own cost.
An MMA fighter has an agent that he pays, a team he fights for that he trains at, that he pays, if he's good and has the money he has a muay thai coach, a Jits coach, a strength and conditioning coach, a diet coach and someone to help him cut weight.
And if he just made it to the big shows he MAY make 30k for the year. Minus 20% for management and training at least then a third for taxes and you're sitting at about 16k to live on for the entire year.
Sponsors have always been a huge source of income for fighters. I can't tell you how many times a sponsor showed up at just the right time and gave me food money. Literally.
When I fought Pete Sell the second time I was sponsored by Toyo tires. For two fights I had their logo on my shorts. For what? A set of tires. That would be about $800. $400 for two fights on primetime that have been shown over and over. Why did I do it? Because I was driving around on my spare and one other tire was filled with fix a flat. The belts were showing on the other tires.
You want to see the best a fighter can be? Buy his gear. Support the brands that sponsor him and send the companies emails letting them know you're buying their protein because they're sponsoring someone.
What's that you say? If you don't like it then quit? I do like it. In fact, I love it. That's why I lived in my buddies basement 2 nights a week to save on gas money. And I rode with other friends to practice to save on gas money. And I packed a lunch to practice. And I only wore clothes sponsors and other more successful fighters would give me. And I'd do it all over again.
If you got into fighting to be rich, you chose the wrong sport. Do it for the love and if you get rich that's a nice bonus.
But having those sponsors can sure make the ride easier.
My two cents.

 
great post, thanks for taking the time Nate...
Ditto . Phone Post
1/22/12 4:51 PM
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Gforce - First supporting SOPA.

Now this.

Fuck the UFC and Zuffa. I can find another sport to watch.

Fucking sellouts.


I misses the SOPA thing... Really!? Guess I won't be supporting UFC anymore.
1/22/12 5:14 PM
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At this point in time the ban does not appear to affect pay-per-view main card fighters



the fuck is this shit?
1/22/12 5:27 PM
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Hessian - You can borrow money from the Arabs to stay floating but no guns?

Sounds so very Anti-American.

Gun Shop one was of the only sponsors I liked.

In a decade all Zuffa fighters will have no management , will train at UFC only gyms and there will only be sponsors that pay out to Zuffa.


Lemme guess, you are obsessed with the Illuminati and think George Bush and the Bohemian Club are planning to take over the world with a New World Order? Because you sound like 'one of those' people.

lol they already have you idiot!
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How the fuck am I gunna get me my gun advertisements during my ppv now?
At least we still got a Harley in the middle of the ocdagon..
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1/22/12 6:22 PM
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Shane Carwin - The funny thing about the G4u ban they mention in the OP, is G4U does not compete with Xynergy. I have not tried Xyience Xynergy but I assume it is an energy drink. Good4U was advertising their isotonic water line. Essentially water with added nutrients. One helps you d-stress another is for help with appetite suppression etc. They are functional beverages and do something totally different then Xyience.

I am thankful that I have sponsors like G4U who go beyond the UFC logo program. They have not wavered in their support of me. I continue to be their brand spokesman and I am proud to have them. Their drinks are Good4U and as a company they are Good2Me.

Well said Shane, especially that last line hehe.
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FadeToBlack - Good call by FOX and the UFC. It's good to be conscientious of how that represents the sport to the public. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


I agree. Now that mma is mainstream, it's got to clean up its image.
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very good from FOX and UFC.

this kind of stuff should be banned along with drugs and gambling ads.

you want to go mainstream that this is the first part to do it.

also i never buy the poor fighter excuse that they need ammo sex or drugs ads on their pants to help with income.

when UFc tries to get mainstream more companies also will like to sponsor you. so in the end you would not even need those ammo,sex, and drugs adds.

think a bit further! and that is what UFC and fox do.

job well done!
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redeye2000 - also i never buy the poor fighter excuse that they need ammo sex or drugs ads on their pants to help with income.


 I guess I find it so strange that some folks apparently associate firearms with things like sex and drugs...

check the stats of deaths that were alcohol related vs firearms related, I think it will surprise quite a few people.


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How can you people equate legal gun owning Americans with gambling and other vices? This is no business move, this is a political move. Some liberal dip sheet in the UFC is pushing an anti gun agenda on the fans.
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The Patriot - How can you people equate legal gun owning Americans with gambling and other vices? This is no business move, this is a political move. Some liberal dip sheet in the UFC is pushing an anti gun agenda on the fans.



actually that dip sheey'it probably works for FOX

but honestly... i did find ammo, gun ads and the like a bit out of place on what used to be sacred "arts" which is now being commercialized....

i can see why they don't want ads like that...

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