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1/25/12 9:03 PM
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Radio Raheem
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Bas posted this statement a few mins ago clearing the air about his thoughts on Overeem.
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OK, this is for the people who think I suddenly changed my mind on Alistair Overeem, and that I am now, “against him”, and THAT is the reason I say now that JDS is gonna beat him. This is what I said I wrote before; I added some stuff to be more clear:

I'm not bias against Alistair Overeem, I was just giving my HONEST opinion on the fight. I still think Alistair is a strong/talented fighter and he has a great chance of winning the title. He destroyed Brock, and with a kick to the liver, “Hallelujah ”, you know what I think of liver shots, so that was cool. But when they ask me “Who’s gonna win between JDS and Overeem”? And I say that I think JDS wins this fight, I really think that he wins the fight. Listen, you know I have been many times wrong, so it doesn’t mean he wins, but when you ask for what I think, I reply honest.
Like I honestly think that JDS is a striker who throws combos, Alistairs does not, and if you look at the Werdum/Overeem fight, you see that Werdum connects more then the other way around. I know also that JDS hits much harder then Werdum. Also, let’s not forget that JDS KO’d Werdum, and Overeem took Werdum to a decision. On top of that, JDS KO’d Mirko Cro Cop, Alistair didn’t, well, if you don’t count kneeing him in the pills.

When I say that Overeem has a glass jaw, I say that because I truly believe he has one, the rest of the world knows this as well. What? You never read the forums when he had his “tough ride, and lost in 7 fights 5 times, and 4 of those losses were by way of KO (1 sub)”? (May 2006 till September 2007)
On EVERY forum everybody said that he had a glass jaw, even in Holland? Haha, and now I suddenly lie and make this up? (No, I just didn’t mention the “glass jaw” before)
And yes, I said he was # 1 on my “top 10 list for HW” when he was my friend, but I always made sure to mention that I say he's is number 1 on my list because: A: "he's a friend", or, B: "Because he's from Holland".

That list was also made when GG was negotiating with the UFC, and when they had trouble, remember, firing Marloes Coenen and the other fighters? I wanted Alistair to fight in the UFC; I wanted the next guy from Holland to get the UFC title!

My words may sounds harsher now that I'm not l friends with Overeem anymore, but my opinion of the fight and it's possible outcome is not affected by this. When I say that he DID have a bit of luck winning the K1, again, the whole world knows this is true, why don’t you go to all the forums around the time of him winning the K1, and read for yourself? The ONLY thing I did is leaving things like: “he had a bit of luck as well winning the K1” or the comment of the "glass jaw", I simply left those remarks out when we were friends.
If I wouldn't have known him personally, (and this is 100% the truth), I would have said those things on Inside MMA as well. And you know why? Because they are TRUE, and MANY other people were saying this as well. Only his friends, manager, trainer, etc, didn’t say those things out loud, but I guarantee you, they THOUGHT it and talked about it among each other! I know this, because that’s what we talked about when he won the K1. Everybody acknowledged of course that he is an unbelievable fighter, an animal, because he is, but we also said, “Well, he had a bit of luck as well, I mean, he fought a broken down Peter Aerts, who just fought a war against Sem Schilt, (Schilt, who won the K1 4 times in a row!!) And after that he fought Saki in the finals, who had a broken arm AND a broken hand”. On the forums in Holland people were even thinking that it was a fixed fight, since they were both from GG. (But it 100% certainly, wasn’t!).
Still, that doesn’t take away what a great fighter Overeem is, I don’t say he’s not, I just mention the hard FACTS.

I always told Golden Glory, when they were given names of possible opponents for Overeem, to: “stay away from Cain Velasquez, and JDS, let him first fight a few other guys, so he’s used to fighting in the UFC, and THEN, well, he eventually HAS to fight them, but those are the two toughest ones”.

I don’t care if you believe me or not, I stopped doing that a long time ago about DUMB things that have been said on the Internet, (not things that matter of course). It’s the first thing I tell fighters, when they ask me for advice, I always say: “Stay OFF the internet, because many people have no clue what they are talking about, they don’t train, never fought themselves, but they ARE telling the pro’s how they should or should have, fight/fought”. Some fighters get really bothered by that, and it will affect them when they fight, that’s why I say this. But trust me, I can look at myself in the mirror and know I am 100% truthful.

Since this subject showed up on a LOT of websites, and I had MANY questions about it on my Facebook/Twitter account, I thought to address it. I think I have been very clear, so if there is still a question, just read it again, it’s in there. To all my fans, who get my humor and know me the way I am, I am sorry, but I have been extremely busy lately, that’s why I haven’t been on twitter for a bit, only “here and there”. I promise to make more time, so if I didn’t answer a question right away, and it’s a good question, just ask me again; hopefully I see it this time.

I vented and it is OUT of my system!

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1/25/12 9:08 PM
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1/25/12 9:13 PM
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Sure Bas.

If Reem was still with GG you'd be saying Reem would beat JDS, even if deep down you didnt believe it you would say it cause you'd be riding with GG.

Now he isnt with GG so either you are bitter and are against him or now you are truly giving your honest opinion and before you were full of shit and just riding his dick cause he was with GG.

So you are either fake or a liar.
1/25/12 9:14 PM
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1/25/12 9:14 PM
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Chris27 - Sure Bas.

If Reem was still with GG you'd be saying Reem would beat JDS, even if deep down you didnt believe it you would say it cause you'd be riding with GG.

Now he isnt with GG so either you are bitter and are against him or now you are truly giving your honest opinion and before you were full of shit and just riding his dick cause he was with GG.

So you are either fake or a liar.
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1/25/12 9:19 PM
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Not long ago Bas used to emphatically state that Overeem was the #1 HW in the world. He's hating on the Reem bigtime.
1/25/12 9:21 PM
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1/25/12 9:24 PM
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1/25/12 9:25 PM
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1/25/12 9:25 PM
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So he says he gave his honest opinion about the glass jaw & losing to JDS but for a full year he was lying saying Overeem is the no 1 guy at HW that would win the title in the UFC
1/25/12 9:30 PM
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1/25/12 9:42 PM
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brockfanstar - So he says he gave his honest opinion about the glass jaw & losing to JDS but for a full year he was lying saying Overeem is the no 1 guy at HW that would win the title in the UFC


Ya Bas is coming off bitter here
1/25/12 9:48 PM
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Bas is getting personal.
how many times has any professional used "glass" jaw to describe a fighter?
Overeem does not have a glass jaw and never had one
1/25/12 9:52 PM
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So we are supposed to give Bas some validity as a commentator now that he's told us he only said a guy was #1 because he was his friend?

Totally wack, Bas. This is coming from someone that used to think you were the shit.

You turned bitter because Alistair left your buddies.

JDS and Alistair are 2 of my 3 favorite fighters, I didn't know who to pick between them, now I hope that Alistair is able to prove you wrong so you have to eat this bitterness permanantly.

 
1/25/12 9:55 PM
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 why is he such butt buddies with GG?

1/25/12 9:56 PM
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Tears, tears, tears....

Don't you guys get it? There is logic. And there is Bas.

And regardless, given a choice between an illogical madman and an eater of horse flesh, I choose the former. Phone Post
1/25/12 9:58 PM
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Oh wow, Bas is sounding more and more like a crazy ex-girlfriend.
1/25/12 10:01 PM
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Randleman won that fight. And Kohsaka would have won if they didn't keep standing him up.
1/25/12 10:02 PM
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 I think Bas was lying before and is being honest, but admittedly butthurt now.
1/25/12 10:14 PM
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Regardless of what Bas said, I know you ALL read that in Bas' voice.
1/25/12 10:19 PM
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EVERY coach, training partner and teammate says their guy will win.

You guys are really trying to call out Bas over this for being honest and admitting it?  Give me a fucking break.
1/25/12 10:20 PM
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epwar - Regardless of what Bas said, I know you ALL read that in Bas' voice.
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1/25/12 10:21 PM
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SleepBomb -  why is he such butt buddies with GG?

I'm thinking maybe he had financial investment ? I'm pretty sure he co-promoted some shows with them in holland. just a thought Phone Post
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SleepBomb -  why is he such butt buddies with GG?

I'm thinking maybe he had financial investment ? I'm pretty sure he co-promoted some shows with them in holland. just a thought Phone Post
1/25/12 10:37 PM
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JoeHurley - EVERY coach, training partner and teammate says their guy will win.

You guys are really trying to call out Bas over this for being honest and admitting it?  Give me a fucking break.
He is none of those things, and he wasn't being honest as a commentator.
 

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