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1/27/12 12:59 AM
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Two notable fighters, Cris Cyborg Santos and Muhammed Lawal, have tested positive or PEDs in recent weeks. In both cases the test result was attributed to unknowingly taking what was believed to be a legal supplement.

UFC President Dana White doesn't buy it.

"If you get caught doing something, admit you did it," White said. "The whole 'Somebody put something in my system that I didn't know about?' I mean, who here lets someone put s--- inside them that you don't know what it is? If you go to the doctor and he gives you a pill, 'Doc, what am I taking this for?'"

"I don't buy that s---. Own up to what you did. Listen, it's out there, it happens, and sometimes everybody makes mistakes."

"The up-and-coming guys, you're already talented, you're already fast, you're already strong, do not ruin your career by taking this junk that will affect you for the rest of your life."

"I don't buy it. Anybody that's ever said that they didn't know what's being put in their body is full of s---."

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1/27/12 1:02 AM
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Full of shit or not, they should own up to their mistakes and move. Phone Post
1/27/12 1:05 AM
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 Translation: Dana is not friends with King Mo or Cyborg

Dana White on Sean Sherk: "I Believe Him"

Dana WhiteUFC president Dana White says Sean Sherk is his friend, that he believes Sherk's claims that he didn't take steroids, and that the fighter is neither a liar nor a cheater.
1/27/12 1:11 AM
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smoogy -  Translation: Dana is not friends with King Mo or Cyborg

Dana White on Sean Sherk: "I Believe Him"

Dana WhiteUFC president Dana White says Sean Sherk is his friend, that he believes Sherk's claims that he didn't take steroids, and that the fighter is neither a liar nor a cheater.
LOL

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1/27/12 1:12 AM
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FightAddict11 - 
smoogy -  Translation: Dana is not friends with King Mo or Cyborg

Dana White on Sean Sherk: "I Believe Him"

Dana WhiteUFC president Dana White says Sean Sherk is his friend, that he believes Sherk's claims that he didn't take steroids, and that the fighter is neither a liar nor a cheater.
LOL

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1/27/12 1:12 AM
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smoogy -  Translation: Dana is not friends with King Mo or Cyborg
<h1 class="postTitle"><a href="http://mmajunkie.com/news/2640/dana-white-on-sean-sherk-i-believe-him.mma" id="CPCtr_piC2640_hlPost">Dana White on Sean Sherk: "I Believe Him"</a></h1><div class="byline" id="CPCtr_piC2640_pnlByLine">by Dann Stupp on Aug 01, 2007 at 10:32 am ET</div><img width="174" height="220" align="right" alt="Dana White" title="Dana White" src="http://mmajunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/070325white.jpg" />UFC president Dana White says Sean Sherk is his friend, that he believes Sherk's claims that he didn't take steroids, and that the fighter is neither a liar nor a cheater.

lol the cereal bowl of gatorade and "supplements!!!" LMAO
1/27/12 1:18 AM
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smoogy -  Translation: Dana is not friends with King Mo or Cyborg

Dana White on Sean Sherk: "I Believe Him"

Dana WhiteUFC president Dana White says Sean Sherk is his friend, that he believes Sherk's claims that he didn't take steroids, and that the fighter is neither a liar nor a cheater.

these are the kinds of things that make smoogy one of my favorite posters.
1/27/12 1:19 AM
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Sherk: "Yeah, it was actually a testosterone booster in my Glucosamine supplement"
1/27/12 1:23 AM
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 Dana honestly just needs to shut the fuck up from time to time...he contradicts himself nearly everytime he speaks
1/27/12 1:25 AM
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lol no reporter ever questions dana or calls him out when he makes these stupid statements so it's easy for him to get away with saying whatever he wants.
1/27/12 1:26 AM
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I don't buy excuses either, but back in the TUF1 era weren't the xyience supplements causing people to piss hot due to ingredients not listed correctly or "tainting"?
1/27/12 1:26 AM
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smoogy -  Translation: Dana is not friends with King Mo or Cyborg
<h1 class="postTitle"><a href="http://mmajunkie.com/news/2640/dana-white-on-sean-sherk-i-believe-him.mma" id="CPCtr_piC2640_hlPost">Dana White on Sean Sherk: "I Believe Him"</a></h1><div class="byline" id="CPCtr_piC2640_pnlByLine">by Dann Stupp on Aug 01, 2007 at 10:32 am ET</div><img width="174" height="220" align="right" alt="Dana White" title="Dana White" src="http://mmajunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/070325white.jpg" />UFC president Dana White says Sean Sherk is his friend, that he believes Sherk's claims that he didn't take steroids, and that the fighter is neither a liar nor a cheater.


lol!
1/27/12 2:03 AM
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BJJkilla - lol no reporter ever questions dana or calls him out when he makes these stupid statements so it's easy for him to get away with saying whatever he wants.


"fuck off espn"
1/27/12 2:05 AM
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 Let's be real though. Whether you like Dana or not, he's right with his statement here.

Be honest and own up to it. Listening to Mike Kogan and Mo Lawal's story about how Lawal bought a supplement 2.5 years ago (had to be that long because the supplement was removed from shelves soon thereafter) and then Lawal just took it periodically was ridiculous. Even if true, do you really think people are going to believe it after you spent days saying that you don't take any supplements at all other than dimetapp and then once you find a supplement that fits the bill, suddenly you admit you've been taking it for 3 years.

You'd think some fighters would look at where excuses put Roger Clemens/Mark McGwire/Rafael Palmiero and contrast that with Andy Pettit/Jason Giambi decision to admit guilt and realize that it's better to just admit it, take your lumps, and move on.

Chris Leben tested positive after the Bisping fight. Until his recent failed test, how many people were sitting around talking about how Leben was a cheater? It's the guys like Barnett, Sherk, and others who refuse to admit they did wrong that always have that steroid cloud of doom hanging over their heads. And now Mo Lawal and Cyborg Santos join that cadre.
1/27/12 2:50 AM
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it's pretty simple, king mo said some stuff about the strikeforce situation that zuffa didn't want being put out there and this is what happens.
1/27/12 3:19 AM
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Oops nice contradiction. Agree with this tho. Phone Post
1/27/12 3:28 AM
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King Mo actually has a legit excuse because Superdrol is basically Masteron, it's just methylated so it will survive the first pass in the liver.

Cris Cyborg on the other hand is definitely a roider, no non roided woman outside of maybe a natural division bodybuilder is going to be that big, but they don't have near the cardio she does. Plus she never named the supplement.
1/27/12 3:30 AM
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Masakatsu Funaki -  Let's be real though. Whether you like Dana or not, he's right with his statement here.

Be honest and own up to it. Listening to Mike Kogan and Mo Lawal's story about how Lawal bought a supplement 2.5 years ago (had to be that long because the supplement was removed from shelves soon thereafter) and then Lawal just took it periodically was ridiculous. Even if true, do you really think people are going to believe it after you spent days saying that you don't take any supplements at all other than dimetapp and then once you find a supplement that fits the bill, suddenly you admit you've been taking it for 3 years.

You'd think some fighters would look at where excuses put Roger Clemens/Mark McGwire/Rafael Palmiero and contrast that with Andy Pettit/Jason Giambi decision to admit guilt and realize that it's better to just admit it, take your lumps, and move on.

Chris Leben tested positive after the Bisping fight. Until his recent failed test, how many people were sitting around talking about how Leben was a cheater? It's the guys like Barnett, Sherk, and others who refuse to admit they did wrong that always have that steroid cloud of doom hanging over their heads. And now Mo Lawal and Cyborg Santos join that cadre.<br type="_moz" />


That's not the issue though. The problem is that he craps on these SF fighters even though it's a complete 180 from his position regarding Sherk's use of the exact same excuse.

I happen to agree with what he's saying now (although only generally because the supplement market in the US is, to be fair, the wild west, thanks to a few sellout politicians) but he's being a total hypocrite and it's not the first time.

Right, cuz almost 5 years later, there is NO WAY he has changed his stance on these "supplement" issues. Get off your own high horse and try bitching about something Dana has done recently. It's not like he hasn't recently done shit to piss people off, but to dig crap up from 5 years ago is just useless and lazy. Ok, he supported Sherk in 2007, it is 2012 NOW. Check the bottom right of your computer if you don't believe me. Oh wait, you are on the "internet" with your really cool phone. I'm sure it has the date somewhere.....
1/27/12 3:41 AM
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smoogy -  Translation: Dana is not friends with King Mo or Cyborg
<h1 class="postTitle"><a href="http://mmajunkie.com/news/2640/dana-white-on-sean-sherk-i-believe-him.mma" id="CPCtr_piC2640_hlPost">Dana White on Sean Sherk: "I Believe Him"</a></h1><div class="byline" id="CPCtr_piC2640_pnlByLine">by Dann Stupp on Aug 01, 2007 at 10:32 am ET</div><img width="174" height="220" align="right" alt="Dana White" title="Dana White" src="http://mmajunkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/070325white.jpg" />UFC president Dana White says Sean Sherk is his friend, that he believes Sherk's claims that he didn't take steroids, and that the fighter is neither a liar nor a cheater.


OMG dude people change their opinions!?
1/27/12 5:53 AM
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I see the DDL is on patrol in here.

Dana Defence League incase your wondering. Phone Post
1/27/12 7:21 AM
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56sav - King Mo actually has a legit excuse because Superdrol is basically Masteron, it's just methylated so it will survive the first pass in the liver.



This is not accurate. You do not test positive for Masteron when you take superdrol.

1/27/12 7:37 AM
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stonepony - I believe Sherk's claims were supported by a supplement being tested and coming up positive? He also passed a lie-detector.


Sherk roided and got caught.
1/27/12 7:44 AM
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stonepony - I believe Sherk's claims were supported by a supplement being tested and coming up positive? He also passed a lie-detector.


CSAC also cut his suspension from 1yr to 6months after his appeal hearings....odd ruling
1/27/12 9:23 AM
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lol @ posting the Sherk article. Touche
1/27/12 9:32 AM
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A good friend of mine who worked In the BSN lab in boca raton, said that alot of unscrupulous supplement companies will add small amounts of annabolics to their supplements to make them more effective. 99% of their users aren't pro athletes so they never get tested. So UNKNOWINGLY taking a banned substance CAN HAPPEN. Phone Post

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