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2/1/12 1:02 PM
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Roy Nelson has fought guys who were on steroids. He knows he has. You don’t get to be a heavyweight at this level without having gone up against at least one or two opponents who came in with a little artificial help, he told MMA Fighting.

"You just know," Nelson said. "You know by straight-out asking them. You can do it that way. Or you can go through their coaches or training partners. It’s a very small world."

"There’s some verbal combat involved. You have to trick them into coming clean, but it does happen."

"If I can compete with them, and they’re using, it just means I’m a better athlete. That’s all it means to me."

"I’ve probably been tested for steroids probably more than any other fighter that’s ever fought ... It’s like a football program. There’s always going to be some guys where it’s like, yeah, you’re the one we’ve got to test, because then the program looks clean."

Nelson, who lost to JDS and Frank Mir before stopping Cro Cop in the third, is fighting Fabricio Werdum, who is coming off a loss in Strikeforce to Alistair Overeem. Never the less, Nelson hopes the winner of the fight with Werdum gets a title shot vs. the winner of Overeem/JDS.

"I think I have a bigger fanbase than Overeem by far," Nelson explains. "I think I’m probably one of the top guys in the UFC that actually has a very huge fanbase."

"Any time you lose, it looks bad. But at the same time, every loss you take a fighter should make you improve and become a better fighter. The way I look at it is, I’d rather take my losses now before I have the belt, because then I’d have the belt to lose, if that makes sense."

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2/1/12 1:08 PM
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Hrm... Not sure what to make of this. :P
2/1/12 1:24 PM
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 It sure is awesome when guys come out and throw everyone else under the bus, but have to point out that for some reason, they're the exception and we should trust them over everyone else. 

/sarcasm
2/1/12 1:26 PM
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 wouldnt be suprised if hes on peds to.  He might be morbidly obese but doesnt mean hes not on it

plus its smart to throw everyone under the bus and say you dont do it that way no one points a finger at you.
2/1/12 1:30 PM
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I think Roy's body tells the truth. That man is not on juice. Cyborg; that man is on the juice. Phone Post
2/1/12 1:33 PM
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Roy has had a lot of fights all over the world and in a lot of organizations...all at heavyweight.
I'd be shocked if he hadn't faced at least a few guys on the juice.
2/1/12 1:35 PM
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Roy nelson is great .. But if he thinks his fanbase is larger than overeems he needs to lay that crackpipe down, in the US could be possible but globally not in a million years. Overeem is the #1 fighter in europe and asia ( quite some people live there) and growing fanbase in US after SF and lesnar fights. When he is the champ in a few months this will only grow. Roy is more of a culthero Phone Post
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glupe - ^^^I don't see Roy Nelson calling out names, who is everyone??

 Well he spoke about it in the plural form, and he mentioned past opponents. So 22 potential different men.
2/1/12 2:10 PM
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And people will STILL convince themselves that Josh Barnett and Sean Sherk are the only fighters to ever take steroids in MMA history and 99.999999% of the sport is clean.
2/1/12 2:15 PM
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Just fuckin' legalize it.
2/1/12 2:20 PM
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I think the new UFC policy of testing before a new fighter signs a contract will definitely help.
2/1/12 2:26 PM
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cambeezee - I think Roy's body tells the truth. That man is not on juice. Cyborg; that man is on the juice. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


You probably felt that way about Royce up until a few years ago.
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kingjames100 - Just fuckin' legalize it.

 Why? Thats a stupid comment! I remember watching Vera vs Silva thinking Silva looked roided, I guessed at the time cheques drops! (look up the effects) He fucked Vera up badly and to suggest you legalize roids we be playing with fire. Where do you draw the line with what is and isn't legal before someone gets killed because they have 10x the normal stregnth?
Although I don't take steroids I know plenty that do and have nothing against them per say, but when using them for a fight sport it would only be a matter of time before a few deaths in the cage!
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kingjames100 - Just fuckin' legalize it.

 Why? Thats a stupid comment! I remember watching Vera vs Silva thinking Silva looked roided, I guessed at the time cheques drops! (look up the effects) He fucked Vera up badly and to suggest you legalize roids we be playing with fire. Where do you draw the line with what is and isn't legal before someone gets killed because they have 10x the normal stregnth?
Although I don't take steroids I know plenty that do and have nothing against them per say, but when using them for a fight sport it would only be a matter of time before a few deaths in the cage!
2/1/12 3:00 PM
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cambeezee - I think Roy's body tells the truth. That man is not on juice. Cyborg; that man is on the juice. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


this is a great example of the mind numbing ignorance of MMA fans.

lol, a guys body is an indication of steroid use?

do you understand why athletes take steroids? to have muscles and look big and awesome? no, to improve performance and aid recovery.

Jesus.

I wonder how many people, let alone mma fans, think like this ?
You're an ass clown. I was a body builder before getting into MMA. I know how people's bodies react to taking gear. If you trained the way a fighter does and you are juicing...you wouldn't look like Roy. You sir are the ignorant faggot. Phone Post
2/1/12 3:10 PM
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^ those who know not of what they speak should not speak. Phone Post
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Deaf Forever - And people will STILL convince themselves that Josh Barnett and Sean Sherk are the only fighters to ever take steroids in MMA history and 99.999999% of the sport is clean.


Who do you think IS taking though?

GSP? Jones? Anderson?


Just about everyone. Not sure about Silva/Jones but well...
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Shahanshah - No one that ever trained seriously, let a lone for competitions would ever make a comment like you did on the first page.

So, you said something stupid, and then lied to cover it up.

You are too cool bro.

Come down to Faber's gym in sac BRO, and I'll show you what I'm talking about.

Quit being a keyboard warrior. Trying to make someone look dumb because you don't agree with their opinion. Simply state yours if you disagree with mine. Dont try and blast people. Phone Post
2/1/12 3:22 PM
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What's hard to beat is the regime of testing, being caught in the middle of a cycle, not being caught based on what you took.

I would say fighters who take fights on short notice are probably fairly clean.

Remember there are at least three tiers. The top pros can afford the testing and designer drugs. They get themselves tested (friendly) to assure they're under the wire. The bottom guys just take what they can get, second hand PEDs, second hand info. Depending on the sport and the number of athletes and the money, the tiers can shrink or grow. Guys at the top of the cycling profession could afford their own docs their own labs, their own PEDs. It was needed because they got tested so frequently. During the races, they rarely had time to do anything such as get saline to dilute out a hematocrit. They just hoped their micro-dosing would be undetectable after 4-5 hours or racing.

FWIW
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They also diet
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If the UFC really cared, they would be campaigning for random olympic style testing but they will say it's too costly and if big stars get popped it will hurt potential revenue. 
 


An better testing program won´t stop the roiding. Marion Jones never got caught despite olympic testing for example...
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As a fan I don't care what fighters do in their own time. But when it's time to fight: come in clean and on weight.
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grimsgrindgg - ""I think I have a bigger fanbase than Overeem by far," Nelson explains. "I think I’m probably one of the top guys in the UFC that actually has a very huge fanbase."" HAHAHAHAHAHAH well I THINK you're delusional and insane! A bigger fanbase than Overeem?!! ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah No wonder you're fat, you're not too bright are you fat country?


That is pretty funny, Overeem destroyed Brock so by that alone more people would know about him.
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What topic can I talk about to distract from the fact that I am overweight, not evolving as a fighter, and losing? All my opponents are on steroids, that is what I will go with.
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PhilBaroni - They also diet

 awesome

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