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2/24/12 7:19 PM
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Jake Ellenberger recently posted his theory of fighting on facebook.

I love how so many fighter say, I just want a war. I just listened to a guy who got a quick knockout and then said, I would have rather had a long war.

Are you stupid???

I like short fights. If every fight could be quick, I'm more than happy with that, but unfortunately it's rare. "I just want a war", or "I love getting hit" Really stupid?? Because I don't.

Thats why I train, to not get hit & not take damage. This sport is no longer a "tough-man" competition, its a stratigic equation, and most of the time, the more intelligent fighter wins. I dont know about you, but I dont want my brain to be used as a speed bag.

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2/24/12 7:21 PM
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 sound theory imo.
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the better you are, the less you get hit... if you're getting hit a lot, you're not as good as you think
 

2/24/12 7:26 PM
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The objective of every fighter should be to win as quickly as possible, whilst taking the minimum of damage.
this is known as "common sense"
2/24/12 7:33 PM
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JonnySweats - The objective of every fighter should be to win as quickly as possible, whilst taking the minimum of damage.
this is known as "common sense"
Not to Diaz fans Phone Post
2/24/12 7:34 PM
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There are certain fighters that are better at "wars" than others. Guys who have great chins and KO power. So,yeah, to try and fight a war with a guy that has a chin and power is indeed stupid. Sure its fun to watch but the thing with MMA is that there are too many "fans" that think every fighter NEEDS to fight this way to be a man.

On the flipside, nobody blames a striker for trying to out BJJ a guy like Aoki or Maia.

Its a Wang World.
2/24/12 7:36 PM
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I think we all understand why fighters say shit in previews to hype it up but the problem is that these "fans" think the fighters are traitors or pussies if they dont come out and try and brawl like no tomorrow from the bell.

Case in point: those turning on Condit.
2/24/12 7:36 PM
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JonnySweats - The objective of every fighter should be to win as quickly as possible, whilst taking the minimum of damage.
this is known as "common sense"
Not to Diaz fans Phone Post
Qft. There should be a stand and Wang division for people that don't appreciate the sporting aspect of mma. Maybe then the retards would stfu. Phone Post
2/24/12 7:38 PM
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Him and Diego had a war. I dont think Nick wants a war Im sure he wouldnt mind a quick finish. Phone Post
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JonnySweats - The objective of every fighter should be to win as quickly as possible, whilst taking the minimum of damage.
this is known as "common sense"
Not to Diaz fans Phone Post
Not Nick Diaz fans how about just ppv buyers. Phone Post
2/24/12 7:43 PM
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JonnySweats - The objective of every fighter should be to win as quickly as possible, whilst taking the minimum of damage.
this is known as "common sense"
Not to Diaz fans <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Qft. There should be a stand and Wang division for people that don't appreciate the sporting aspect of mma. Maybe then the retards would stfu. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

Dude, that shit was hilarious!!!!!
2/24/12 8:08 PM
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Manny Yarbrough GOAT - Funny he says it after that Diego fight, yeah he won, but had it been 5 Rounds it surely would have been a war, and there is a real chance he might have lost.
Hes going to be in a war wth Diaz one day and hes going to wilt. The guy gassed after three rounds. Hes a young Baroni type fighter. With good hands and no tank. That muscle gets you tired if u cant get a flash ko. Phone Post
2/24/12 8:09 PM
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JonnySweats - The objective of every fighter should be to win as quickly as possible, whilst taking the minimum of damage.
this is known as "common sense"
Not to Diaz fans <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

Wow really? So what you are insinuating is one of two things. Either Diaz doesn't try to win the fight as quickly as possible, or Condit actually was against Diaz. I suspect the latter, though I'm not sure which is more laughable. Condit was trying to finish if it came to him, but he was not unhappy at all to just run out the clock.
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JonnySweats - The objective of every fighter should be to win as quickly as possible, whilst taking the minimum of damage.
this is known as "common sense"

Not to Diaz fans "

I guess point fighting for 5 rounds is considered winning as quickly as possible...
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Ellenburger is a zzzzzzzz fest.
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stratigic stratisfears!
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Diego TKOs him in the 5th.
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JonnySweats - The objective of every fighter should be to win as quickly as possible, whilst taking the minimum of damage.
this is known as "common sense"
Not to Diaz fans <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

Wow really? So what you are insinuating is one of two things. Either Diaz doesn't try to win the fight as quickly as possible, or Condit actually was against Diaz. I suspect the latter, though I'm not sure which is more laughable. Condit was trying to finish if it came to him, but he was not unhappy at all to just run out the clock.
Uhhhhh.....

What I'm saying is according to "the fans" of either Diaz brother that their opponent should stand at arms length and trade blows like they do in x-arm.

What Ellenberger is saying here makes perfect sense to anyone not wearing tapout, metal mulisha or affliction. Phone Post
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Jake Ellenberger: Stupid fighters want wars

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Jake Ellenberger recently posted his theory of fighting on facebook.

I love how so many fighter say, I just want a war. I just listened to a guy who got a quick knockout and then said, I would have rather had a long war.

Are you stupid???

I like short fights. If every fight could be quick, I'm more than happy with that, but unfortunately it's rare. "I just want a war", or "I love getting hit" Really stupid?? Because I don't.

Thats why I train, to not get hit & not take damage. This sport is no longer a "tough-man" competition, its a stratigic equation, and most of the time, the more intelligent fighter wins. I dont know about you, but I dont want my brain to be used as a speed bag.

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This is man who would never stepped into the ring at UFC 1 apparently...

Looks like all the fighters have gotten "smart" nowadays..................... perhaps I should find a different "sport" to watch..........
2/24/12 11:12 PM
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And Hugo, Wanderlei Silva would NEVER have said any of that shit.....................
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Haulport - And Hugo, Wanderlei Silva would NEVER have said any of that shit.....................
And that's the difference between younger fighters and older fighters.... It's called evolving and your witnessing it, you should be happy.

I live Wandy and all the fighters from the same era as him but you have to admit there is a new breed of fighter entering the game. It's funny that everyone seems to hate it and thats why I suggest to those fans maybe go out and check the smaller promotions where most guys are looking for a glorified bar fight.

Jake is just telling the truth... Did you expect him or any or any fighter to come out and say "I hope to get dropped a few times and take alot of punishment" Phone Post
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Haulport - And Hugo, Wanderlei Silva would NEVER have said any of that shit.....................
And that's the difference between younger fighters and older fighters.... It's called evolving and your witnessing it, you should be happy.

I live Wandy and all the fighters from the same era as him but you have to admit there is a new breed of fighter entering the game. It's funny that everyone seems to hate it and thats why I suggest to those fans maybe go out and check the smaller promotions where most guys are looking for a glorified bar fight.

Jake is just telling the truth... Did you expect him or any or any fighter to come out and say "I hope to get dropped a few times and take alot of punishment" Phone Post
You are completely mixing up Wandy's love to be aggressive with his poor boxing. There is a major difference between someone who loves to go to war and someone who just wants to win and it has NOTHING to do with getting hit and taking punishment because of a skill set. If wandy could have become a great boxing like Rampage his career would be competely different and he would be just as aggressive.

Jake is expressing a sad sentiment that is becoming the norm in the sport... 

Guys like Bas, Coleman, Wandy, Shogun, Ninja, Liddell, Sergei, Don Frye, etc. etc. etc. LOVED (and lived for) a good fight.

Jake just wants to compete in a sport and make a living at it.
2/24/12 11:37 PM
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Any fighter with weak cardio like Jake would hate wars... Phone Post
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Haulport - And Hugo, Wanderlei Silva would NEVER have said any of that shit.....................
And that's the difference between younger fighters and older fighters.... It's called evolving and your witnessing it, you should be happy.

I live Wandy and all the fighters from the same era as him but you have to admit there is a new breed of fighter entering the game. It's funny that everyone seems to hate it and thats why I suggest to those fans maybe go out and check the smaller promotions where most guys are looking for a glorified bar fight.

Jake is just telling the truth... Did you expect him or any or any fighter to come out and say "I hope to get dropped a few times and take alot of punishment" Phone Post
You are completely mixing up Wandy's love to be aggressive with his poor boxing. There is a major difference between someone who loves to go to war and someone who just wants to win and it has NOTHING to do with getting hit and taking punishment because of a skill set. If wandy could have become a great boxing like Rampage his career would be competely different and he would be just as aggressive.

Jake is expressing a sad sentiment that is becoming the norm in the sport... 

Guys like Bas, Coleman, Wandy, Shogun, Ninja, Liddell, Sergei, Don Frye, etc. etc. etc. LOVED (and lived for) a good fight.

Jake just wants to compete in a sport and make a living at it.
Sorry, I don't understand how I'm mixing up Wanderlai's aggressiveness with his boxing when I didn't mention anything of the sort besides saying "I love Wandy".

All those fighters you listed are great fighters but I just don't know what point your trying to prove by bringing them up when I was talking about fighter evolution. Yes they "LOVED" to fight are saying professional fighters of today don't LOVE to fight?

Ellenberger isn't saying anything sad he's saying what a guarantee 100% of fighters are hoping for..... I've said before and now I'm going to ask you do you think fighters want to take punishment or get knocked out?

Of course he wants to compete in mma/sport and make a living at it.... What are you even trying to say here? Is it wrong of him to want to train and fight and earn money?

Everything they you replied with is pretty off topic of what I said so it sorta makes me think your trollin.... Phone Post

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