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I commend that you're going, but if anything this is just further proof that God is not taking care of anyone and that we humans must look after each other. I think that message is much more powerful than anything you could ever tell me about some sky god.
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I'm currently a lil heathen, but i know there is a God who sent his one and only son to die for us on the cross. I dont mean to upset non-believers, i respect their beliefs. Hey, you have free-will, no one can make you do anything you dont want to do or make you believe anything you dont believe in. I give respect to get respect. Do unto others as you would have them to do unto you. Something good to live by, even if you're not christian. Phone Post


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superCalo - Why are athiests always do better and angry, whetr is the joy in their world ? I d do feel dirty for them living lives of pain and suffering, but must admit I find iy difficult to understand when surely they must realise happiness and furfillment well come by opening their hearts to christ, what is holding them back? Am slowly coming to the conclusion that it's satan thats holding them in their state of anger, of frustration, he is keeping the light from their hearts, closing their mind to the truth, it saddens me deeply, I will and urge all other christians to pray for the athiests dammed souls, lord may they be saved. <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



You are brainwashed, which is why you can't understand. I truly feel sorry for you. And no I'm not bitter or joyless, just thoroughly annoyed.
2/26/12 1:55 PM
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I'm currently a lil heathen, but i know there is a God who sent his one and only son to die for us on the cross. I dont mean to upset non-believers, i respect their beliefs. Hey, you have free-will, no one can make you do anything you dont want to do or make you believe anything you dont believe in. I give respect to get respect. Do unto others as you would have them to do unto you. Something good to live by, even if you're not christian. Phone Post

 So god created men, created the rules, the ones he created, he did not give them understanding of good and bad, since one would think that wars and such are bad but god allows them everyday, then he created a son, who died but didnt really die, and knew he wouldnt die, but because of he went to cross and make-believe-died, without any intervene of men, now we are again on his good side? He was the one who put us on the badside first place, and his only comeback was to create make a believe son to be sacrificed and then everyday people suffer from starvation and wars and crimes are made and he just sits there..

Also he said, that men will have free will, but only gets the reward if they follow him, is that a free will?

"give me your money, or I will kill you - you can now freely decide if you want to give me your money"

It never ceases to amaze me how some people can believe in such a crap.. really.. And then they think so high themselves "we serve him we are above you, he gave us morals"

So by that definition theoretically, if god never was, the ones that are now believers would run rampart killing and raping everything, since they only have morals when god gave it to them?

How can you believe in such a horseshit?



 You should read all written scriptures that have been historically deemed worth reading.
I sounds like your opinion is coming straight from watching TV and surfing the web for others' opinions.
I know you haven't read scriptures, or at least studied them at all, otherwise your questions would've been answered.
Your conclusions are based off misinformation and misunderstanding.
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I'm currently a lil heathen, but i know there is a God who sent his one and only son to die for us on the cross. I dont mean to upset non-believers, i respect their beliefs. Hey, you have free-will, no one can make you do anything you dont want to do or make you believe anything you dont believe in. I give respect to get respect. Do unto others as you would have them to do unto you. Something good to live by, even if you're not christian. Phone Post

 So god created men, created the rules, the ones he created, he did not give them understanding of good and bad, since one would think that wars and such are bad but god allows them everyday, then he created a son, who died but didnt really die, and knew he wouldnt die, but because of he went to cross and make-believe-died, without any intervene of men, now we are again on his good side? He was the one who put us on the badside first place, and his only comeback was to create make a believe son to be sacrificed and then everyday people suffer from starvation and wars and crimes are made and he just sits there..

Also he said, that men will have free will, but only gets the reward if they follow him, is that a free will?

"give me your money, or I will kill you - you can now freely decide if you want to give me your money"

It never ceases to amaze me how some people can believe in such a crap.. really.. And then they think so high themselves "we serve him we are above you, he gave us morals"

So by that definition theoretically, if god never was, the ones that are now believers would run rampart killing and raping everything, since they only have morals when god gave it to them?

How can you believe in such a horseshit?


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2/26/12 1:59 PM
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People are so afraid of what they don't understand.

If you hate Christianity as a whole you do not understand it.

If you hate atheists as a whole you do not understand them.

There are things wrong with both but in no way are they incompatible or to be fully rejected.

Be a complete person. Do not limit yourself with hate. Phone Post
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I'm currently a lil heathen, but i know there is a God who sent his one and only son to die for us on the cross. I dont mean to upset non-believers, i respect their beliefs. Hey, you have free-will, no one can make you do anything you dont want to do or make you believe anything you dont believe in. I give respect to get respect. Do unto others as you would have them to do unto you. Something good to live by, even if you're not christian. Phone Post

 So god created men, created the rules, the ones he created, he did not give them understanding of good and bad, since one would think that wars and such are bad but god allows them everyday, then he created a son, who died but didnt really die, and knew he wouldnt die, but because of he went to cross and make-believe-died, without any intervene of men, now we are again on his good side? He was the one who put us on the badside first place, and his only comeback was to create make a believe son to be sacrificed and then everyday people suffer from starvation and wars and crimes are made and he just sits there..

Also he said, that men will have free will, but only gets the reward if they follow him, is that a free will?

"give me your money, or I will kill you - you can now freely decide if you want to give me your money"

It never ceases to amaze me how some people can believe in such a crap.. really.. And then they think so high themselves "we serve him we are above you, he gave us morals"

So by that definition theoretically, if god never was, the ones that are now believers would run rampart killing and raping everything, since they only have morals when god gave it to them?

How can you believe in such a horseshit?



 You should read all written scriptures that have been historically deemed worth reading.
I sounds like your opinion is coming straight from watching TV and surfing the web for others' opinions.
I know you haven't read scriptures, or at least studied them at all, otherwise your questions would've been answered.
Your conclusions are based off misinformation and misunderstanding.

 Why would I believe scriptures which are written by people who dont have any proof of anything? If you believe in those, why dont you believe in even older writings about older gods? Difference between me and you is only 1 god, you decide not to believe in 1000+n gods, I decided not to believe into 1001+n gods.

 There are no older scriptures than the ones I'm referring to knucklehead. 
I'm talking about you actually doing your own groundwork before taking a strong stance, on anything.
2/26/12 2:29 PM
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Serious question.... How do you define your love for God?

If you believe God was involved in Bendo's performance last night due to his strict belief, then surely you must believe Gods same actions are responsible for all the suffering going on for other believers. How can you love a God for such atrocities? Is it not fear that you feel, but make it out to be love?

I really don't get it...
2/26/12 2:35 PM
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2/26/12 2:45 PM
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The AUJL's Dirty Little Ginger - He reigns from heaven above, with wisdom, power and Love our God is an awesome God!!

Great walk out tune, great fight, very close

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nothing quite exemplifies the hypocrisy and ignorance of faith more than a believer bragging online about a god's "wisdom, power, and love" in relation to a MMA fighter's victory
2/26/12 2:46 PM
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 There are no older scriptures than the ones I'm referring to knucklehead. 
I'm talking about you actually doing your own groundwork before taking a strong stance, on anything.

 Please enlighten me on these older scripts you talk of, or are you afraid I will prove them to be fake? Is your beliefs on so short leech?

Genesis, God created the heavens and the earth. God said let there be light.
All energy comes from light, all matter comes from energy. So matter is then solidified light. God created water and dry land. God let the earth bring forth grass and herb yielding seed and the fruit tree yielding fruit.
On the fifth day God let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life and fowl that my fly above the earth. Then God made cattle and the beasts of the earth. On the sixth day God created humans, male and female.
This process of design can be explained by evolution and science.
A book written thousands of years ago lines up with scientific theories we have today.
Problem atheists?
2/26/12 2:48 PM
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superCalo - Why are athiests always do better and angry, whetr is the joy in their world ? I d do feel dirty for them living lives of pain and suffering, but must admit I find iy difficult to understand when surely they must realise happiness and furfillment well come by opening their hearts to christ, what is holding them back? Am slowly coming to the conclusion that it's satan thats holding them in their state of anger, of frustration, he is keeping the light from their hearts, closing their mind to the truth, it saddens me deeply, I will and urge all other christians to pray for the athiests dammed souls, lord may they be saved. Phone Post
Buddhists are among the happiest and most peaceful people in the world but according to what you believe they worship a false idol(devil), so why are they so happy? Look up worlds happiest person and it's a Buddhist monk from France. Phone Post
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Proverbs 3:5-6  
Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your
ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.

Once you learn to do the above, you will get the gift of the holy spirit. The holy spirit fills that little void we all have in our hearts. Gives you peace and  a vision for what the meaning of life here on this earth is and how you should live your life. 

There are a lot of people out there who know the truth in their hearts but they also know that admitting that means they have to live their lives the way Jesus lived his here on earth. The problem with that is they have to turn away from their NATURAL sinful flesh and they just don't want to do that. 



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Juxtaposition - Serious question.... How do you define your love for God?

If you believe God was involved in Bendo's performance last night due to his strict belief, then surely you must believe Gods same actions are responsible for all the suffering going on for other believers. How can you love a God for such atrocities? Is it not fear that you feel, but make it out to be love?

I really don't get it...
No you don't get it st all you are correct.<br>Humans are responsible for human suffering noy god, understand that.<br><br>Hendersons faith in god have him the ability to achieve do much, understand that, if you don't believe it, ask or listen to hendersons own word, if you chose to still disbelieve him then why are you possibly asking the question if not to blindly disagree and be deliberatly close minded and obtuse ? <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


How many people have access to this account? Sometimes I read your posts, they're structured, coherent and actually funny. Other times they look like they've been written by a 10 year old.
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Bullshit thread, wrong forum.
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 There are no older scriptures than the ones I'm referring to knucklehead. 
I'm talking about you actually doing your own groundwork before taking a strong stance, on anything.

 Please enlighten me on these older scripts you talk of, or are you afraid I will prove them to be fake? Is your beliefs on so short leech?

 The scriptures known as  "Genesis" are the oldest I know of. Start there.
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As for all the people saying, well why does God let Benson win and not care about starving african children?
Well couldn't you ask yourself the same question? Why did I watch ufc 144 last night instead of helping starving african children?
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God gave us free will.. but he told us the right way to live.
It's human beings fault that we lost the path and starting living unnaturally, hurting the earth and one another for ideas of material gain or pleasure. So God sent Jesus to the earth to die for our sins.
So if we accept Jesus, our sins are forgiven.
But what does it mean to accept Jesus?
Simply honor his birth and death?
I think that's where Christianity hits a wall for some people.
I think to accept Jesus you have to accept the way he lived his life and strive to be christ like in your own life.
In Mark Chapter 12 verses 28-31 Jesus describes the two greatest commandments:
The first of all the commandments is hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
And thou shald love the Lord they God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. There is NONE other commandment greater than these.

So then the biggest thing a christian has to do is love God and love his neighbor, or starving african child, as himself.
This means it is up to us to help out starving african children, or any brother or sister of ours that needs our help.
God put us here and told us to do that. What is so unloving and evil about that?

In the book of mark chapter 14
2/26/12 3:01 PM
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superCalo - Why are athiests always do better and angry, whetr is the joy in their world ? I d do feel dirty for them living lives of pain and suffering, but must admit I find iy difficult to understand when surely they must realise happiness and furfillment well come by opening their hearts to christ, what is holding them back? Am slowly coming to the conclusion that it's satan thats holding them in their state of anger, of frustration, he is keeping the light from their hearts, closing their mind to the truth, it saddens me deeply, I will and urge all other christians to pray for the athiests dammed souls, lord may they be saved. <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
Buddhists are among the happiest and most peaceful people in the world but according to what you believe they worship a false idol(devil), so why are they so happy? Look up worlds happiest person and it's a Buddhist monk from France. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


That's another interesting thing about religion.
Many religions share similar truths. Buddhism and Christianity do.
The difference is that these other religions have human prophets. Human prophets that undergo transformation or enlightenment through suffering, but at the end of the day they're still human.
The bible says that Jesus was God in human form. He performed miracles, lived with the drunkards and prostitutes and helped everyone along the way of his life come to the truth and help one another.
2/26/12 3:07 PM
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Okay, I see there's still a lot of questions about Benson winning.
The bible says:
Philippians 4:13
New King James Version (NKJV)
13 I can do all things through Christ[a] who strengthens me.

This is what Benson says after every fight, win or lose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjk_vNePDPY&feature=channel_video_title

It's Ben's faith in God that gives him strength to keep training and pushing himself.
It's the training that allowed him to beat Edgar.
So it isn't that God necessarily chose Benson to win, it's more that Benson's faith in God allowed him to train harder and therefore to be the better fighter.

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Ya Mon - 50,000 people are murdered in the US annually, thousands are violently raped, 10s of thousands of kids are molested or horrendously abused many freeze to death sleeping on the street. All here at home. Yet Crispies are convinced that all this energy is spent on a safe fight that has many rules, is scored by points, serves no purpose other than distraction entertainment and makes people lots of money?

Good thing priorities are straight....hey this 8 year old is being strangled and dismembered by the neighbor....can't you see I got this lightweight guy that I have to make sure the judges give one more point to? Makes sense! Phone Post
I know this is what you think Christians believe, but no one actually thinks this way. No one believes God is giving fighters the edge specifically in a fight. The prayer to Christ is to help them be all they can, in any facet of life. These men just happen to be fighters, and use the strength through Christ to help them win. Prayer is a wonderful thing. It leads to many other wonderful things. You should try it sometime. Phone Post
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TheTakeover - Good to know this God fellow is more concerned about an MMA fight than starving children in Africa. Solid guy.



Good to know that posters on here who claim to either not believe in God or say He doesn't exist sit around and let poor children starve to death in Africa.

I suppose it's easier to live your life that way I guess.

So, the real question should be is this; Do you honestly give a shit about starving children enough to something or are you going to continue to be a jackass like most atheists on the forum?



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TheTakeover - I don't believe in basing my life on silly fairy tales, that's for sure.

What do you base your life on?
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 There are no older scriptures than the ones I'm referring to knucklehead. 
I'm talking about you actually doing your own groundwork before taking a strong stance, on anything.

 Please enlighten me on these older scripts you talk of, or are you afraid I will prove them to be fake? Is your beliefs on so short leech?

 The scriptures known as  "Genesis" are the oldest I know of. Start there.


LMAO have you ever read anything else but the bible (if you've even read that)?

just to put things in perspective, the sumarians had already invented glue before christianity claims the world was created. regardless of your beliefs, that is fact.

so something doesn't add up here

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