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3/30/12 8:25 AM
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http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/143619.html

UFC president Dana White has likened Junior Dos Santos to Chuck Liddell, but has questioned whether the Brazilian has the necessary variety to cope with world class kickboxer Alistair Overeem at UFC 146.

Liddell was arguably the most devastating light-heavyweight the UFC has seen and White sees plenty of parallels with Dos Santos, which could spell bad news for Overeem, who was knocked out by Liddell back in 2003.

"For me, the question is how is Dos Santos going to deal with the kicks and the knees and the elbows?" White was quoted as saying by MMAWeekly.

"Since he's been in the UFC, I've never seen him have to deal with that. It's stuff that he's going to have to deal with from Alistair Overeem.

"He's fought a pretty one-dimensional fight, he's fought very Chuck Liddell-like in that he's great at defending the takedown, he drops bombs, he throws heavy punches, but he's never dealt with anybody who's going to throw kicks and knees and work in the clinch the way that Alistair Overeem does.

"I'm real curious to see how Junior Dos Santos is planning on dealing with that."

 

 

 

 

3/30/12 8:38 AM
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i wanna see jds throw bombs with no set-ups against overeem.
3/30/12 9:19 AM
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Alistair's level of striking is unprecedented in the UFC and I think will ultimately be too much for Junior.
3/30/12 9:32 AM
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Well Chuck Liddell beat Overreem so I guess if JDS has a similar skill set he can do the same.
3/30/12 9:39 AM
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from what i've seen of reem I feel like he doesn't do well when pressured and is backing up. I'm interested to see if do santos presses forward or looks to counter. neither is really a guarantee for success though. I am pumped for this fight Phone Post
3/30/12 10:09 AM
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ENZO007 - JDS wins on speed IMO...

He is going to bomb Overeem outta there in 1. Big punches early.
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3/30/12 10:11 AM
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If reem does take this tho I have to say he will have answered all the questions I've had about him and the holes I thought he had. Phone Post
3/30/12 11:53 AM
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 Yep very similar style to Liddell, and he will knock out Overeem just like Liddell did back then.
3/30/12 11:55 AM
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Bigmeech - Reem 2012 has far more better striking then reem 2003. Since 2007-2008 hes been having K1 level striking and only getting better.. If dos Santos pressures him its gonne Be a short night for him reem is an amazing counterstriker. Dos Santos can take it if he waits and takes it easy overeem leaves openings when punching. Anyway can go either way the man with the best gameplan will win. Phone Post
Overeem started off as a kickboxer. Just because he's now big enough to compete against the best of the best in K-1 doesn't mean that he wasn't good enough before Phone Post
3/30/12 1:37 PM
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White is Liddell dick so much. The difference is JDS actually boxes. Liddell does kemp karate powershot for shot throwing. Kind of a different thing.
3/30/12 1:40 PM
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The Swinging Richard - Alistair's level of striking is unprecedented in the UFC and I think will ultimately be too much for Junior.
HOLY FUCK, get off the mans nutsack- immediately.

James lights out toney is the best striker to fight in the UFC- nice try though. Phone Post

 I don't even think Toney threw a strike in the UFC. Hard to tell what his level of striking is these days. 
3/30/12 1:41 PM
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The Swinging Richard - Alistair's level of striking is unprecedented in the UFC and I think will ultimately be too much for Junior.
HOLY FUCK, get off the mans nutsack- immediately.

James lights out toney is the best striker to fight in the UFC- nice try though. Phone Post

 You do realize that striking is more than boxing right?????

James Toney is not the best "striker" the UFC has ever seen.
3/30/12 1:51 PM
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Shahanshah - JDS has also not been brutally knocked out 6+ times.



 6 KO losses in 61 fights isn't really that bad.
3/30/12 2:07 PM
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 Chuck? Chuck wasnt even the 3rd best striker at LHW in MMA.

Hes more like Rampage imo.
3/30/12 2:13 PM
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Shahanshah - JDS has also not been brutally knocked out 6+ times.



 6 KO losses in 61 fights isn't really that bad.


well, first of all, 6 KO losses are horrible period.

you do not recover from damage like that, your brain never repairs itself to the point that you can forget about those concussions.

and secondly, yeah, 61 fights, the overwhelming majority of which were against gimme opponents.

Werdum/Brock were the first serious opponents he has faced in MMA in 5+ years.

The 6th KO loss was in kickboxing, so if we're only talking about MMA, than it would be 5.. Saki and Aerts (two of his recent opponents) have 10 and 17 KO losses repsectively, and no one in their right mind would call either of them "chinny".
3/30/12 2:15 PM
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Shahanshah - JDS has also not been brutally knocked out 6+ times.



 6 KO losses in 61 fights isn't really that bad.
Right, but it gets out of hand when people speak about overeem like he's an untouchable infallible striker Phone Post
Yup. I don't think he's untouchable.. his defense isn't really suited for MMA.
3/30/12 3:22 PM
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JDS is too one dimensional standing. Overeem beats him in the clinch and from distance. JDS obviously still has the chance to land that big shot, but what weve seen from Overeems chin the last few years it will take more then one good shot. Even when Badr was landing huge shots on Overeem he never went out
3/30/12 3:33 PM
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 ^ yeah, sorry.. I added tko's by mistake. I think Kyotaro's KO of Aerts probably has more to do with Aerts being 40 fucking years old. Seriously.. he's the Rany Couture of K-1.

I still don't think 6 KO losses are as bad as people are saying.
3/30/12 8:45 PM
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The Swinging Richard - Alistair's level of striking is unprecedented in the UFC and I think will ultimately be too much for Junior.
James lights out toney is the best striker to fight in the UFC- nice try though.
Bitch, you give 10'ers a bad name.

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3/31/12 5:38 AM
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Think he's getting Chuck confused with Vitor Belfort ...... and JDS confused with Phil Baroni . Phone Post
3/31/12 5:51 AM
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The Swinging Richard - Alistair's level of striking is unprecedented in the UFC and I think will ultimately be too much for Junior.
HOLY FUCK, get off the mans nutsack- immediately.

James lights out toney is the best striker to fight in the UFC- nice try though. Phone Post

 You do realize that striking is more than boxing right?????

James Toney is not the best "striker" the UFC has ever seen.
Another one???? You really think top boxers and top KICKBOXERS are even in the same league. hahahaha

Oh I get it, they have kicks. That must resolve the issue. More tools.... Right Phone Post
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Key factor is Stance, boxers and kickboxers have different stances. When a kickboxer kicks a boxer the boxer usually ends up tripping or falling due to his stance. If not that the boxers legs are tooken out of him. Also Boxers these days arnt nearly as aggresive as they were before which would give moe time to the kickboxer to do what ever. History also repeats its self kickboxers always slaughter boxers.

Boxers live in  a delusional world somewhat like TOney did. Youre not invincible. Youre not going to land a one hit ko punch against before i kick or shoot in.
 
3/31/12 6:49 AM
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He's similar to Liddell but IMO he does everything better. I'm leaning towards jds over reem but it really could go either way.
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3/31/12 7:29 AM
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Similar to Liddell in the way that he is fed mainly Grapplers, Then is fed a Striker and is sparked out?

Yep, That's the thing they have in common.
3/31/12 9:01 AM
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I see the similarities in their sprawl n' brawl game but chuck was more of a one shot counterpuncher while JDS is a versatile combination boxer. Phone Post
3/31/12 12:00 PM
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I'm uber pumped for this fight.

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