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4/17/12 3:00 PM
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"There were people at Greg Jackson’s gym that he never even said hi to," Jones said of Evans. He may mourn the loss of the original team now -- what Evans refers to as the "Jackson Five" -- but when he was there he was only interested in hanging out with "the elites," according to Jones.

"He’s never gone to a team dinner," said Jones. "He never went out and said, ‘Hey, let me buy these other guys a drink because I can afford it.’ It was not like that. He just had [Donald] ‘Cowboy’ [Cerrone], and basically the guys who had money in the bank and could hang with him, dress with him, and look good standing next to him at the club. That’s not a team member."

"I have the coaches that taught him how to fight," said Jones. "They taught him the guard passes he uses, the ground-and-pound system that he uses, the punches that he used to throw and the combinations. I mean, it almost seems not fair sometimes."

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4/17/12 3:01 PM
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4/17/12 3:23 PM
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Greg Jackson to Jon Jones at the bar:

"Jon... go over to the bar and buy those dudes drinks. Go get some friends!"
4/17/12 3:25 PM
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On the flip side Evans should know a lot about how jones is being trained. Phone Post
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So is Cowboy helping to train Jones for this fight? Or is he sitting this one out?
4/17/12 3:38 PM
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Coolface_Awesomeson - Greg Jackson to Jon Jones at the bar:

"Jon... go over to the bar and buy those dudes drinks. Go get some friends!"
I get it Phone Post
4/17/12 3:47 PM
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Jon let it go... Phone Post
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Seems like he's slowly understanding why Rashad is mad at him without actually realizing it.
4/17/12 3:50 PM
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Rashad knows the Jackson/Winklejohn system, what they do to prepare someone for a fight, how they trained Jones + experience of training with Jones. I also believe that Van Arsdale worked with them, if i'm not mistaken??

While they don't know what Van Arsdale, Sperry, or that Dutch coach are doing with Rashad, and what kind of training system they are putting him through.

So, yes. They know Rashad, but they don't know what Rashad is doing for this fight while Rashad knows them and has been in that system.
4/17/12 3:52 PM
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it seems unfair because it pretty much is. worst possible scenario for Rashad.

If we would rewind to that meeting that Rashad had with Jackson awhile back when he said that he didnt want to have Jones join the team and Jackson said "Don't worry, it will be fine.".... you could actually replace that with "Actually Rashad, not only am I going to bring him in, but he's going to fight you and I'm gonna coach him against you and tell him everything I know about you."

That's a pretty tough pill to swallow.
4/17/12 3:52 PM
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 exactly...thats why greg jackson was a weasel for training jones for this fight..regardless of whether or not rashad is with the camp, he is using the knowledge of rashad he gained in confidence while traneing rashad against him
4/17/12 3:57 PM
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In that interview Jones said he beat Lyoto in a karate match. Dude is hilarious. Put a mic in front of this guy and magic happens.
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The more Jones speaks, the more I'd like to see him taking a canvas nap.
4/17/12 4:45 PM
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Jackson should even the playing field and tell Rashad about Jon :p
4/17/12 4:48 PM
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What if Jackson is the ultimate TROLL and tells Jones the wrong game plan and has him losing against RASHAD! lol
4/17/12 4:56 PM
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StayRad -
Coolface_Awesomeson - Greg Jackson to Jon Jones at the bar:

"Jon... go over to the bar and buy those dudes drinks. Go get some friends!"
Lol Phone Post
Lol Phone Post
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Kid_dynamite319 - What if Jackson is the ultimate TROLL and tells Jones the wrong game plan and has him losing against RASHAD! lol


If only this were pro wrestling....Jackson and Rashad would become epic heels ....or heels that get cheered like faces.
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If rashad were to win he better not let Greg Jackson and Winklejohn hear the end of it.
4/17/12 5:15 PM
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What if Rashad starts the fight off and kicks Jones right in the winklejohn?

Just to show he's not playing around and sportsmanship is out the window?
4/17/12 5:20 PM
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"one thing all my fans know is that I’m not just a good fighter, I’m also a smart fighter."

Thanks Jon, we needed reminding.
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If jones was quiet and let his fighting do all the talking, he'd be one of the most popular fighters ever Phone Post
4/17/12 5:32 PM
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goku -  exactly...thats why greg jackson was a weasel for training jones for this fight..regardless of whether or not rashad is with the camp, he is using the knowledge of rashad he gained in confidence while traneing rashad against him

How is Greg a weasel? Rashad left team Jackson. What are the coaches supposed to do?
4/17/12 5:34 PM
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Porkchop - it seems unfair because it pretty much is. worst possible scenario for Rashad.

If we would rewind to that meeting that Rashad had with Jackson awhile back when he said that he didnt want to have Jones join the team and Jackson said "Don't worry, it will be fine.".... you could actually replace that with "Actually Rashad, not only am I going to bring him in, but he's going to fight you and I'm gonna coach him against you and tell him everything I know about you."

That's a pretty tough pill to swallow.
Greg Jackson made Hashad a wall N stall monster

They have NO idea whats coming to them! Phone Post
4/17/12 6:51 PM
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I'm a fan of both Jones and Rashad. I personally feel that Jackson has the right to coach him. I liked his original stance where he wouldn't do it, but Rashad has talked SO MUCH shit since the split, I'd probably coach Jones if I was in Greg's position. That's just honesty.

I think people often forget that Rashad left the team on his own. He left because he felt slighted by Jones, but he LEFT. That interview could've, and probably should've been talked out between Jones and Evans, instead of Evans kinda freaking out and jumping ship. I feel for Rashad, but it was still his choice to leave a situation which probably could've been ironed out with one calm sit down with everyone.
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HELWIG - What if Rashad starts the fight off and kicks Jones right in the winklejohn?

Just to show he's not playing around and sportsmanship is out the window?

Still laughing at 'right in the winklejohn'. I will now say that every time there's a nut shot and Rogan winces over the replay.

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