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5/6/12 1:10 PM
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http://www.mmafighting.com/strikeforce/2012/5/6/3002540/roger-gracie-vs-keith-jardine-set-for-july-strikeforce-event

May 6, 2012 - Roger Gracie will officially make his middleweight debut against another former light-heavyweight who shifted to the lighter division when he takes on Keith Jardine during a July Strikeforce event that is still in the planning stages.

Two sources confirmed the fight pairing to MMA Fighting.

Though the event is not officially announced, it is tentatively penciled in for Portland, Oregon, the sources said.

A date has not yet been finalized either. Phone Post
5/6/12 1:15 PM
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Wouldve been nove to see Gracie fight a real middleweight to see if the division is worth cutting for Phone Post
5/6/12 1:26 PM
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I see jardine pulling off the upset here Phone Post
5/6/12 2:07 PM
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Does Jardine really ever get taken down?
Pretty sure he'll end up beating Roger up on the feet Phone Post
5/6/12 2:37 PM
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So this card will probably be

Luke/Tim MW title fight
RR/SK female BW title fight
Gracie/Jardine

thats not bad so far.
5/6/12 2:42 PM
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July is going to be a good month.
5/6/12 2:58 PM
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Awesome! Been waiting to see Hoger in action again. I'd like to see a UFC run before he calls it quits. Still early in his MMA career but he's not getting any younger. Phone Post
5/6/12 3:14 PM
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This is a tough style matchup for Roger. Jardine isn't a decorated wrestler, but he has excellent takedown defense and is a much more experienced striker. His problem historically has been his chin.
5/6/12 4:36 PM
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Man, Roger just doesn't know how to take easy fights! I guess he's feeling some sense of urgency with his MMA career, but from day 1 the guy has been taking lose-able fights. Phone Post
5/6/12 7:30 PM
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I really hope I'm wrong but that seems like terrible matchmaking for Roger. I hope he's working hard on either his takedowns or his striking because Jardine's not easy to take down and his real weakness lies in his ability to take punches.
5/6/12 7:41 PM
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Has Roger shown weak takedowns? In his fights, he typically fights pretty relaxed, and uses his long arms/jab to set up things. I don't remember seeing him go for a shot and get stuffed. Even against Randleman, who everyone said he'd never get to the ground, Roger caught him and then followed him to the ground. When were the missed takedowns?
5/7/12 1:10 AM
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Mismatch...did you really just say "his real weakness lies in his ability to take punches" because he got caught by King Mo? (a legit 205 fighter) with a record of 8-1 with 6 wins via KO or TKO?? really??

With his background, it's easy to say his standup is his weakness. When you're the best jiu jitsu fighter on the planet, anything other than bjj will be considered a weakness. that's like saying his ability to hold down food is suspect because he once puked after eating sushi.

anyone can get caught. jardine is a warrior, but when a guy is the elite of the elite in one aspect of fighting, (and he's smart enough to work on his standup with the best in the world), it's his fight to lose.

but yeah...he trains with guys who have mediocre standup. whoever heard of this blackhouse team anyhow? haha!
5/7/12 4:18 AM
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I really like this match-up for Roger. Jardine is credible but not too dangerous for Gracie, who is still pretty new to MMA but has tremendous potential and real star-power. Long live Gracie fighters!
5/7/12 4:29 AM
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Chris27 - So this card will probably be

Luke/Tim MW title fight
RR/SK female BW title fight
Gracie/Jardine

thats not bad so far.

Strikeforce's Twitter posted that the card will feature Nate Marquardt vs. Tyron Woodley for the Welterweight title and Rockhold vs. Kennedy for the Middleweight title.

I doubt that Rousey will be on this show as there's already two title fights lined up for it.
5/7/12 4:31 AM
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Night night Keith. Time for a Hoger induced nap bro. Phone Post
5/7/12 5:03 AM
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Rockhold/Kennedy for MW title
Gracie/Jardine
Woodley/Marquardt for WW title

Unfortunately no Ronda Rousey on this card.
5/8/12 11:57 PM
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Interesting match. I feel like even though Jardine is difficult to take down, Roger's reach will force Jardine to step in the pocket and open himself up for the trip. I don't see Roger shooting a double.
5/9/12 5:35 PM
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SudburyBJJ - Mismatch...did you really just say "his real weakness lies in his ability to take punches" because he got caught by King Mo? (a legit 205 fighter) with a record of 8-1 with 6 wins via KO or TKO?? really??

With his background, it's easy to say his standup is his weakness. When you're the best jiu jitsu fighter on the planet, anything other than bjj will be considered a weakness. that's like saying his ability to hold down food is suspect because he once puked after eating sushi.

anyone can get caught. jardine is a warrior, but when a guy is the elite of the elite in one aspect of fighting, (and he's smart enough to work on his standup with the best in the world), it's his fight to lose.

but yeah...he trains with guys who have mediocre standup. whoever heard of this blackhouse team anyhow? haha!


I was talking about Jardine, not Roger.
5/9/12 5:38 PM
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Roger wins via KO/TKO



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