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6/12/12 8:27 PM
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AshBox
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Should be a committee made up of maybe analysts fighters etc or some unbiased entity. Start somewhere, feuds start all the time, people move on so on, you bleed and fans dig ya you deserve the props so this political crap only hurts true fans. Just my take, boink Phone Post
6/12/12 8:29 PM
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I disagree. Why would The UFC give props to a guy who openly speaks out against them, all the time.

Giving him UFC HOF status will give weight to what he says.

You don't leave an org, run a rival comp then want to be part of the formers HOF.

Frank needs to hold his tongue for a while before they give him recognition. It is a hall of fame not infamy and from the UFC management point of view he is not pro UFC Phone Post
6/12/12 8:32 PM
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Naheb -  I disagree. Why would The UFC give props to a guy who openly speaks out against them, all the time.

Giving him UFC HOF status will give weight to what he says.

You don't leave an org, run a rival comp then want to be part of the formers HOF.

Frank needs to hold his tongue for a while before they give him recognition. It is a hall of fame not infamy and from the UFC management point of view he is not pro UFC Phone Post

 
6/12/12 8:40 PM
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Naheb
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I disagree. Why would The UFC give props to a guy who openly speaks out against them, all the time.

Giving him UFC HOF status will give weight to what he says.

You don't leave an org, run a rival comp then want to be part of the formers HOF.

Frank needs to hold his tongue for a while before they give him recognition. It is a hall of fame not infamy and from the UFC management point of view he is not pro UFC

Oh yeah and there's that... Phone Post
6/12/12 9:01 PM
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Steve4192 - The 'UFC Hall of Fame' won't be legit until two things happen.

1.  It becomes an all-inclusive MMA Hall of Fame that takes into account accomplishments outside of the UFC.  All of the other major sports hall of fames includes accomplishments outside of the current dominant leagues.  The MMA Hall of Fame should be no different.

2.  Elections are taken out of the Zuffa boardroom and given to the press, the fans, or a panel of current/former fighters.  Until there is some sort of transparent voting procedure, the UFC Hall of Fame is worthless.

Agreed.


Rules for eligibility and a voting process are a must.

Also a physical location for the Hall to display memorabilia and plaques n' such. The backwall at the TUF gym ain't gonna cut it.
6/12/12 9:13 PM
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1911Bob - Maybe if Frank had a little more class he'd be in the UFC HOF. Phone Post
What exactly has Frank done to the UFC that was classless? And how does Frank's actions in the dispute differ from Dana's? Phone Post
6/12/12 9:45 PM
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I dont like Frank Shamrock, he seems to have turned into a retard but he has a point. How he broke down Tito and beat him with such a disadvantage was amazing.
6/12/12 9:59 PM
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Did yall know that Frank has the most submissions in UFC title fight history?
6/12/12 10:03 PM
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D241 - I'm pretty sure the beef started when Frank Shamrock was the UFC Champion when Zuffa took over and Frank was wanting more money for his fight contract and Zuffa didn't want to pay him so he "retired" from the sport.



Um no - Do your homework before you post,frank retired from the UFC right after beating tito at UFC 22 - Zuffa didnt buy the UFC til UFC 29-30,about two years later.


I have a sense that D241 is a "fake" old fan that hasn't been following MMA as long as he claims. He clearly has a Dana / UFC axe to grind.
6/12/12 10:10 PM
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D241 - I'm pretty sure the beef started when Frank Shamrock was the UFC Champion when Zuffa took over and Frank was wanting more money for his fight contract and Zuffa didn't want to pay him so he "retired" from the sport.


 The beef started because Frank and the new owners didn't see eye to eye about their business practices. Basically, Frank wanted the UFC to build up the fighter and ZUFFA wanted to build up the UFC brand. It started to spiral downward after that. You see how Dana White is the UFC's biggest star, overshadowing the fighters? That's part of what Frank hates.
6/12/12 11:52 PM
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6/13/12 12:05 AM
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HOF is a joke, partly cause of one fight wonders but also cause of F Shamy.
6/13/12 1:28 AM
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Naheb - I disagree. Why would The UFC give props to a guy who openly speaks out against them, all the time.

Giving him UFC HOF status will give weight to what he says.

You don't leave an org, run a rival comp then want to be part of the formers HOF.

Frank needs to hold his tongue for a while before they give him recognition. It is a hall of fame not infamy and from the UFC management point of view he is not pro UFC Phone Post
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6/13/12 6:59 AM
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T-Ham -

LMAO @ the UFC hall of fame.


It should be called "Guys who fought in the UFC for a little while and Dana happens to like"


That hall of fame is a joke.

 

Errr... remove guys who fought in the Ufc for a while...

Unless Mask was a cage door or ring girl or something??? Phone Post
6/13/12 7:05 AM
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Reed Rothchild - UFC HOF is a joke... Frank Shamrock should be in, IMO <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


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6/13/12 8:54 AM
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the LEGEND is correct.





Prime Frank vs. Prime Master LLoyd would have been EPIC!
6/13/12 8:55 AM
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it might not happen for a while, Fudd can hold a grudge for years.
6/13/12 9:22 AM
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Yes Frank could be in there with guys like Mask. I don't blame him for being pissed! Phone Post
6/13/12 10:10 AM
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As great at burning bridges with the UFC as he is. He was even better in his prime. Phone Post
6/13/12 10:48 AM
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bhealthy - the LEGEND is correct.





Prime Frank vs. Prime Master LLoyd would have been EPIC!
What's your deal w/ LI? Every time I see his name mentioned here, it's by you. Phone Post
6/13/12 11:17 AM
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I think he deserves to get in when Brock gets in, because then the bar to the UFC HOF will be set low enough it will be acceptable just to plae are favorite fighters.

So do you think frank Mir is HOF worthy? Phone Post
6/13/12 1:52 PM
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Jaybrone - As great at burning bridges with the UFC as he is. He was even better in his prime. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

lol!
6/13/12 1:57 PM
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Master LLoyd's roidfree/testosterone-free accomplishments are incredible and extremely underrated.

If you go back and watch what jeremy horn looked like against the legend in his prime, can you imagine what Master LLoyd would have done!!! Frank was gettin smoked by gjj technique alone, then he pulled a kneebar out of his butt to save his belt. Highly unlikely against the king of leglocks.


even today, frank vs, master Lloyd in MMA ruled would be very entertaining, with master Lloyd getting the sub or KO.

6/13/12 2:18 PM
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Frank needs to be in.
6/13/12 2:19 PM
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