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7/12/12 6:08 PM
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Nah man, no disrespect intended and my post came off little harsher than intended too lol.

There were a couple(I think?) of other posts on here that was critical of the series and I've also read reviews elsewhere that called it a rip-off of HP and called it childish young adult reading, and I couldn't disagree more. I don't think I'd recommended it to middle school aged kids which is what HP is marketed towards. Phone Post
7/12/12 7:53 PM
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SoccerkickrevivaL -  Also the Shadowdale series based in Forgotten Realms during the Time of Troubles is badass! 
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7/12/12 8:08 PM
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WillyMaunawili -  Nah man, no disrespect intended and my post came off little harsher than intended too lol.

There were a couple(I think?) of other posts on here that was critical of the series and I've also read reviews elsewhere that called it a rip-off of HP and called it childish young adult reading, and I couldn't disagree more. I don't think I'd recommended it to middle school aged kids which is what HP is marketed towards. Phone Post

Thanks bro.  And no way is it a rip off of HP.  Rothfuss is great.
7/13/12 3:27 AM
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100 pages into The Blade Itself and I'm a bit underwhelmed at the moment.

Things I'm bothered by- very poor "world building." I keep reading about groups of people- the Shanka, the Gurkhish, the Northmen, the Mercers, the Spicers- and I know NOTHING about these ppl. I keep thinking "throw a dog a fucking bone author, who are these people you are repeatedly referencing and why should I give a shit?" This is a huge step down from Brandon Sanderson's writing, who greatly excelled at world building, so maybe I'm being overly harsh, but it'd be nice to know a thing or two about these people that shape the world the book takes place in. I'm also bothered by the lack of a map; every fantasy book worth its salt includes a map!

Minor complaints I know, but still leaves me wishing. The author is good at building intrigue though. Lopen's chapters are great right out of the gate, Glokta is a very interesting character too...but Jezal's chapters are a bit dry so far. I'll reevaluate at 250. Phone Post
7/13/12 6:15 AM
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7/13/12 3:31 PM
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So who's reading books because of this thread?
7/13/12 3:45 PM
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7/13/12 3:46 PM
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Cryptic - So who's reading books because of this thread?

I'm on Abercrombie's second book - Before They are Hanged

The Bloody Nine is the shit
7/13/12 5:28 PM
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MushroomHead - 100 pages into The Blade Itself and I'm a bit underwhelmed at the moment.<br><br>Things I'm bothered by- very poor "world building." I keep reading about groups of people- the Shanka, the Gurkhish, the Northmen, the Mercers, the Spicers- and I know NOTHING about these ppl. I keep thinking "throw a dog a fucking bone author, who are these people you are repeatedly referencing and why should I give a shit?" This is a huge step down from Brandon Sanderson's writing, who greatly excelled at world building, so maybe I'm being overly harsh, but it'd be nice to know a thing or two about these people that shape the world the book takes place in. I'm also bothered by the lack of a map; every fantasy book worth its salt includes a map!<br><br>Minor complaints I know, but still leaves me wishing. The author is good at building intrigue though. Lopen's chapters are great right out of the gate, Glokta is a very interesting character too...but Jezal's chapters are a bit dry so far. I'll reevaluate at 250. <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


The non-existent world building is my biggest gripe with the series, and why I have no desire to read anything else by him.
7/13/12 6:00 PM
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Yeah, I hear you on those gripes. I'm about 40% done with the second book and have no idea how to picture the Shanka (lizardmen?). Luckily they haven't played much of a part.

He makes up for it in the way writes some of the main characters. Glotka, for example, well he's pretty much this awful guy. But each time you read through his perspective you just feel sorry for him. As far as world building I'll take the trade off for a straight to the point story that I can kind of blow through.

Jezel is all kinds of lame though lol
7/13/12 6:03 PM
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Glotka is badass. Phone Post
7/13/12 6:10 PM
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Mencken -  Steven Erikson's Malazan series is pretty solid.  Extremely rich world
Everyone who talks about his books must be required to say, "extremely rich world." that's all I hear. I am a veteran fantasy reader and gave up trying to read book one. Just couldn't do it. Still have it and will try again in a bit. Phone Post


Did the same thing, put it down, and then a couple years later thought I would give it a shot. Took awhile but, man, when it finally clicks its great
On your word I'll give it another try in the fall. Thanks. Phone Post
Do it, you won't be sorry.

I began reading it and put it down several times. Finally one night, after not having anything to read, i picked it up again and once i got through the first 100 pages it turned out to be one of the best books I've ever read. And over been reading fantasy for almost 30 years.

Just give yourself a chance to discover its greatness and you'll be glad you did. Phone Post
7/13/12 7:48 PM
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Timothyk - Legend of huma/thread

 I had to google this, and make sure i remembered correctly who Huma was. When i was right, i lolerskated all the way home.

I was having a keed, but I do love series, with the first book being my fav.
7/13/12 7:50 PM
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Also not really fantasy but Druids by Morgan Llywelyn, is pretty sick.
7/13/12 8:01 PM
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Not related to books, just curious.

When all of you see the name Llywelyn, how do you pronounce it?
7/16/12 2:10 PM
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Finished Before They are Hanged.

I wonder if Glotka was intentionally picked because in russian in means 'throat' lol
7/16/12 2:17 PM
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quote]BaldTony - When all of you see the name Llywelyn, how do you pronounce it?

Le-wellin (but 2 syllables)


Major Abercrombie spoilers:






Started 4 chapters into the third book and feel like I've missed a book in between the it. So all of the sudden the guys are back from the edge of the world like the return never happened? And the fort was taken in between the books?

WTF


edit - fucking quotes
7/16/12 2:25 PM
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Nope. Just some of Abercrombie's weaknesses, along with the scant world building and absent character descriptions.

Throughout the story sometime the plot seems a little vague.

At the end of the 3rd book you realize what the plot actually was all along and it smashes you in the face like an anvil.

At least that's what it did for me.

7/16/12 2:26 PM
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well shit
7/16/12 2:32 PM
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Its still worth it. I mean, The Bloody Nine. Shit.
7/16/12 3:19 PM
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Yeah I'm not too upset or anything. I guess I can just assume they took that boat all the way back to Adua
7/16/12 3:27 PM
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Yea, not quite through The Blade Itself, but the book has definitely grown on me. I'll definitely read the whole trilogy.

Still upset at the lack of world building and lack of map though.



Do you guys ever look up fanart when you are reading fantasy books? I try to find fanart of certain characters to better imagine what they look like. I'm still not sure what exactly a Practical's mask looks like, I've just been picturing a ninja type mask/baklava face mask that just covers mouth and nose.
7/16/12 3:28 PM
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Also, as cool as Ninefingers is, my favorite chapters have been the Dogman chapters.
7/16/12 3:49 PM
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I like the lack of a map. I've got a pretty good handle on the geography to be honest, so I don't think he did a poor job there. I don't need to know the exact dimensions of one continent in a three book series to be satisfied.

I can picture their locations relative to each other just fine
7/16/12 4:30 PM
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Any Eragon fans?

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