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6/25/12 1:28 PM
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"I'll openly say, the winner of this fight is going to go on and win the heavyweight title,"

"In the shape that I'm in at 265, and some of these guys are fast at 240 (or) 235 pounds, they feel they have an advantage," Rothwell said. "Well, what happens when one of the guys who's 265 who's in just as good of shape if not better than the guys who are 240 and used to being faster? What are they going to do when the guy who's the biggest in the division is faster than them, more conditioned than them, (and) has better technique than them?

"People are going to start crying real soon."

source : mmajunkie.com

You thoughts? I remember him saying exactly the same thing before his UFC debut. Then he got steamrolled by Cain.
6/25/12 1:30 PM
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i think there should be a 225 class


im disappointed they added all the jockey weight classes instead of 225
6/25/12 1:34 PM
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gusto - i think there should be a 225 class


im disappointed they added all the jockey weight classes instead of 225
Wouldn't be a point IMO, two of the leading candidates of the possible 225 weight class are at the top of the 265 weight class. Phone Post
I KNOW WHAT WOULD MAKE ONE OF THE WEAKEST DIVISIONS STRONGER!
LETS SPLIT IT INTO TWO SMALLER DIVISIONS!!
 
6/25/12 1:37 PM
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 Cain and/or JDS are light years faster than Rothwell, whether he's in shape or not.  Schaub was tagging Rothwell early too, he just lost his mind when he rocked Ben with the spinning elbow and his bad chin reared it's ugly head again.
6/25/12 1:39 PM
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kanodogg2 - 
gusto - i think there should be a 225 class


im disappointed they added all the jockey weight classes instead of 225
Wouldn't be a point IMO, two of the leading candidates of the possible 225 weight class are at the top of the 265 weight class. <img style="vertical-align: middle" border="0" alt="Phone Post" src="/images/phone/droid.png" />
I KNOW WHAT WOULD MAKE ONE OF THE WEAKEST DIVISIONS STRONGER!
LETS SPLIT IT INTO TWO SMALLER DIVISIONS!!
 


a lot of guys that kill themselves to make 205, would be great at under 225


6/25/12 1:39 PM
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i love this forum, btw
6/25/12 1:41 PM
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I think some of the huge 205's would bulk up a bit and not make those tough cuts anymore and be beasts in the 225 division.
6/25/12 1:44 PM
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splitting the division will just make two crappy divisions
6/25/12 1:46 PM
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 Not enough talent for their to be a 225 division, its a fucking stupid idea.
6/25/12 1:56 PM
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 Cmon Rothwell you know very well guys at 240 have dominated HW and still do till this day. No Big ass HW will reign as champ.

People forget being short does have advantages specially if you know how to strike as a shorter fighter.
6/25/12 2:00 PM
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Move 205 to 200

Make a 225

Move 265 to 285
6/25/12 2:03 PM
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20lbs is not a big enough gap between 205 and 265 for another division. It should be at least 230 and if they do it their should be no cap on SHW. If a guy that is 500lbs wants to fight at SHW let him.

6/25/12 2:04 PM
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His fight with Schaub lasted like 1,5 minutes. Just because he lost some bodyfat doesnt mean he is the energizer bunny now.

6/25/12 2:04 PM
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there's no sense in complaining that they made smaller divisions and should have split one.

one move adds TONS of fighters to their roster and lets them dissolve WEC. the other adds no new fighters and really doesn't do much of anything other than add another belt.
6/25/12 2:08 PM
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JDS, Overeem, cain, werdum, carwin and maybe nelson beat him handily imo..I see potenttial in browne, not so much for rothwell as far as title contention goes
6/25/12 2:10 PM
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Yea, why you're discussing a possible split at all - it doesn't make any sense whatsoever and will never happen.

I just made this thread to point out that Ben Rothwell is a man of great great faith in his own abilities.

And imo he's quite right about one thing - I can see Travis Browne challenging for a title real soon. That's a strong possibility
6/25/12 2:14 PM
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Brown vs rothwell.

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6/25/12 2:21 PM
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 The problem is both JDS and Cain could cut to 225 if they wanted, so what would be the point in doing this?
6/25/12 2:25 PM
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Rumbleweight. Phone Post
6/25/12 2:38 PM
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EckY -  Not enough talent for their to be a 225 division, its a fucking stupid idea.
The heavy 205'ers and the lighter HW would have plenty off talent. Jon jones, Cain, JDS, Phone Post
6/25/12 2:42 PM
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Ben is sounding a wee bit arrogant these days.
6/25/12 2:43 PM
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Humphrey - there's no sense in complaining that they made smaller divisions and should have split one.

one move adds TONS of fighters to their roster and lets them dissolve WEC. the other adds no new fighters and really doesn't do much of anything other than add another belt.




you really enjoy watching guys that weigh 125lbs fight?
6/25/12 2:46 PM
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what i like to watch doesn't matter. what i was getting at is, adding the lower divisions immediately allows a flood of new fighters to the ufc, adds a shitload of fights to cards and adds revenue in doing so. Since they dissolved the WEC and now there are FOX, FX and FUEL tv events they can immediately begin utilizing the extra classes. Splitting the hw division accomplishes nothing.

But as to your question? yes i do. I like watching fights. the lighter guys have incredible technique and are fast as lightning. damn right I enjoy that.

featherweight, bantamweight and flyweight all add great fights
6/25/12 2:46 PM
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We're still talking about adding a weight division after we continue to get proof that it's not necessary year after year? I don't understand why. Weight classes are there to make things fair. HW is fair. Phone Post
6/25/12 2:55 PM
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I think a WC around 230 would be a success. A lot of guys from 205 would find a home there and it would make for a competitive class. 265 would suffer a little, but I think 230 would be better than 265 is now.

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