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In early June it was reported that Brazilian Bantamweight Bibiano Fernandes, DREAM champion before the event's demise, had signed with the UFC. Weeks later a number of MMA news sites reported that Fernandes suffered an undisclosed injury and would not make his promotional debut July 21 in Calgary, Alberta, at UFC 149 against Roland Delorme, as previously announced.

Then Fernandes posted on his Facebook page that he never signed with the UFC, and was weighing offers from both the UFC and Asia's ONE FC.

ONE FC recently announced that Fernades has officially signed with the Asia based promotion.

In an interview with Tatame, Fernandes explains why he chose not the sign with the world's dominant MMA organization.

Guilherme Cruz: What are the expectations for your One FC debut?

Bibiano Fernandes: I’ve fought all my life in Japan. Most of my fans live there. I guess One FC is just an extension of Dream. It’s not Dream, but the guys there have been helping one another at One FC. If you really look at it, you’ll see the guys that used to work on Dream here.

GC: Do you think One FC will be a huge success in the Asian market?

BF: It’s an event that needs to be watched, needs to grow too because that way the competition comes. UFC’s going to win it all. There’s no competition, none whatsoever. Even at my weight class, and I hope they hire good fighters in other classes too, but in all light divisions so things are balanced.

GC: There was a surprise when UFC announced you signed in for the Canada event but days latter it was announced they let you go. Days later you said you didn’t even sign that same contract. What really happened?

BF: Apart from family, it’d be a great opportunity for Bibiano, but when you put the family in the picture it’s not worth it. I don’t fight for me. I have people who rely on me. I’ve built what I had to build in MMA. It can be many people’s dream to fight in the UFC, but it ain’t mine. It’s all business to me. I’ve dreamed about being a champion, I earned three belts: one in Canada and two in Japan. If you have a dream, keep dreaming. If you want to fight, keep on trying. But this I’ll tell you: worship yourself otherwise nobody else will. And it’s not only on the fighting business, but in everything in life. People use you, use you, use you and then through you away like garbage.

GC: MMA is getting big in Brazil. Do you want to fight here?

BF: I dream on fighting in Brazil, of course. I want that. I’m an athlete and I like to compete. If it was at my hometown, Manaus, it would be even better. Fighting in front of my family and friends would be amazing but maybe in the future. We carry on and follow God’s plan.

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Great interview, got a lot of respect for Bibiano but I was pretty bummed to hear that he wasn't signing with the UFC.  Has to do what he feels is best for his family, and if that's OneFC so be it.
6/29/12 5:01 PM
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Sounds like he knows the competition is easier than in Japan. Phone Post
6/29/12 5:02 PM
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random_perv - Sounds like he knows the competition is easier than in Japan. Phone Post
Easier in Japan. Phone Post
6/29/12 5:03 PM
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Respect.
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So Bibiano can't Fight Cheap, he's got a family to consider.

He won't miss dealing with Dana!
6/29/12 5:31 PM
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 Guys like him fighting for the UFC is a risk.

A risk he could have taken for more reward, because if he won fights and became a name he would make more money than anywhere else, but if he lost his stock would go down.

It depends how good he is, and how good he thinks he is. 
6/29/12 5:33 PM
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Coulda just said

"Competition is too hard"
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Could just said Dana is a dick and I won't fight for free Phone Post
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random_perv - Sounds like he knows the competition is easier than in Japan. Phone Post
This. Phone Post
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There's a defining line between keyboard warrior and fight speculator.
6/29/12 5:45 PM
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First off the competition isnt too hard for him, not saying he would win the title or beat the top BW but he would def be in the mix.

Sure he could lose to Cruz, Faber again, Barao, Mayday, Bowles, Torres, Jorgensen, Ivan, Pickett etc but I think he could also beat some of them.


And if he did lose two fights in a row but were good fights considering the BW div is weak he wouldnt be cut.

How many fights did Garcia get before he was cut? I believe the UFC just cut him since he isnt on the ufc site anymore. So with a weak div I dont think they would toss him away because he lost a fight or two. Unless they were shit fights and he got dominated.

But he decided to take more money and by doing that he gets easier fights. Can you really blame him? If someone came to you and said I'll pay you double what you get now and you can do half the work, what do you say?

he made a decision for his family and you cant hate on that, it sucks for fans who wanted to see how good he really is but oh well. Maybe OneFC can sign Ueda or get someone decent for him to fight.

Has anyone seen what the final offer UFC gave him and what he got from OneFC was? I saw some shit saying UFC offered him 15/15 and OneFC offered 60/60. I dont believe that, maybe they were making it up or mistaken and it was 60k total, so 30/30 but I'd like to see the final number. If it was a huge amount more then take it but if it wasnt that big a difference fighting in the UFC with sponsors, bonus money, chances to fight in Asia and Brazil and build his name up I think would pay off in the long run.
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Stay on a winning streak, Still get paid, fight weaker competition. Sounds like Fedor's recipe and it worked for him. So don't knock the guy, must lack confidence. Phone Post
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PowdercoatKing - Stay on a winning streak, Still get paid, fight weaker competition. Sounds like Fedor's recipe and it worked for him. So don't knock the guy, must lack confidence. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Stop being a douche, Fedor fought top guys, yes he fought cans as well but he fought alot of top guys.

And Bibiano has also fought top guys in his career, Faber, Warren, Kid, Takaya, Hellboy, Imanari.

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I wonder if OneFC gave him a guaranteed contract.

He did say its many years or it s long contract and he will probably finish his career so he probably has stability with them.

He knows he is gonna get fights, get paid and he has this deal for a long time. In the UFC he could be cut after one bad loss or two losses, not that he def would but he could be cut 6 months after he signs the deal.

With OneFC he will be guaranteed fights for a while.
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 It's just business.
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Manny Yarbrough GOAT - Lol yeah, I'm sure Bibiano, one of the best 135'ers is blowing smoke up our ass and he's really afraid of fighting top comp......fine, not keyboard warriors, more like jackasses.


This is what I was implying as well as the fact that there is always going to be new guys coming up through the ranks in Asia.

Unlike the UFC were we are getting (insert name) vs (insert name) 3 now in the UFC.

Guy has a family so good for him for wanting the stability.
6/29/12 10:15 PM
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PowdercoatKing - Stay on a winning streak, Still get paid, fight weaker competition. Sounds like Fedor's recipe and it worked for him. So don't knock the guy, must lack confidence. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Stop being a douche, Fedor fought top guys, yes he fought cans as well but he fought alot of top guys.

And Bibiano has also fought top guys in his career, Faber, Warren, Kid, Takaya, Hellboy, Imanari.

I'm not being a douche. I'm being a realist. It's called the "big fish in a small pond" effect. Guys fight in smaller organizations and fight against lower level guys and beat them soundly and stack their record so it looks more impressive so they can renegotiate deals and get a bigger pay day.

Their stock rises, not knocking the dude because it is a pretty good business move for him and that is commendable. Same with Fedor... You can't hate on the guy because at the end of the day he is making a paycheck and putting food on the table and a roof over his head with minimal risk of lowering his stock. Phone Post
6/30/12 2:18 AM
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Man a lot of guys hating on anyone with the balls to tell the UFC to shove. Not the only game in town.
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BIGFOOTinMyMouth - Man a lot of guys hating on anyone with the balls to tell the UFC to shove. Not the only game in town.

 Yep, the same guys that'll call people "not true MMA fans" for not wanting to buy UFC 149, will insult an MMA champion for not signing with their favorite org. 

The same people who defend the UFC when it comes to fighter pay saying things like "no one forced him to sign the contact" and "why do you care what another man gets paid" will then insult a fighter who "signs a contact" (with abother org), and blast the fighter for making his own financial decisions.

The UFC is a great org.  It's not your boyfriend.
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LOL @ all the brainless imature UFC shills giving yet another fighter grief because he doesn't want to be part of Dana's TUF era monopoly....because he actually chose himself and his family rather then bend over for Uncle Dana.


Nothing new or unexpected....carry on...
6/30/12 10:43 AM
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if you want to fight the best in the world, you go to the UFC right now......bibiano took more guaranteed money, instead of more money if you win...bird in the hand 2 in the bush kinda thing isnt it?
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BIGFOOTinMyMouth - Man a lot of guys hating on anyone with the balls to tell the UFC to shove. Not the only game in town.
Its like Andrew Luck not signing with the Colts because he wants to play in the Canadian Football League. Same deal. Phone Post
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to be honest, that is a bizarre, rambling answer to "why not UFC". Maybe lost in translation.


Just like in other sports, it's always half BS when athletes say why they signed somewhere. Sounds like OneFC offered more money. It would be easiest just to say that openly.
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PowdercoatKing - 
BIGFOOTinMyMouth - Man a lot of guys hating on anyone with the balls to tell the UFC to shove. Not the only game in town.
Its like Andrew Luck not signing with the Colts because he wants to play in the Canadian Football League. Same deal. Phone Post


Ya, exactly the same. Except only if the Colts paid less and could cut you for missing a few tackles at any time they please.

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