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7/10/12 12:38 AM
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Wasa-B
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Havent been on here for a while and not sure if Showdown still posts here but tonight on Connected he said R1 for Chael was arguably a 10-8 round.

Wondering if that was his opinion or if someone else writes the report/script or was perhaps said for controversy to get guys like me to start a thread about it.

Just makes me wanna listen less though, Joe.

How on earth could that have been a 10-8 without any significant damage or submission attempts?
7/10/12 8:26 AM
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Unified Rules under scoring:

A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

http://www.abcboxing.com/unified_mma_rules.html

7/10/12 9:12 AM
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See that happening often without rounds being judged 10-8. It only seems to be scored when there is also significant damage.
7/10/12 10:07 AM
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Ben Askren is about the only guy I have seen score that first round a 10-8.

I personally wouldn't go anywhere near a 10-8 round on that one.
7/10/12 12:03 PM
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If shogun vs hendo R5 wasn't 10-8 then no chance that was Phone Post
7/10/12 1:42 PM
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Massa - Unified Rules under scoring:

A round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round.

http://www.abcboxing.com/unified_mma_rules.html



That still leaves loads of ambiguity and interpretation.

Let me ask you this: has a round in the UFC EVER been scored 10-8 from positional dominance alone without any significant GNP or without a single submission attempt or "catch?"

Its not like Chael had the back and was working for the RNC all round.

There is absolutely no precedent for this in the UFC.

Further, though i think the action was rightfully able to continue on the ground, i think the prececent is closer to have standing Chael back up for "inactivity."

There have been more cases of guys being stood up without having the whole round to work for mount and without GNPing away like chael did first fight.

And as pointed out, Shogun had mount and near fight ending GNP in R5 on Hendo and he wasnt given a 10-8....that should have been no mater what the judges say but simply having top control without GNP or sub attempts has never been a 10-8.

If Showdown said this for controversy or was just reading his script, whatever its just another black mark for "MMA journalism" imo.
7/10/12 4:56 PM
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10-8......gimme a break, In pride that would of been stalling.
7/11/12 2:30 PM
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actually, anderson would have been yellow carded for stalling by pride rules
7/11/12 4:55 PM
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Well I cant argue that either, but Chael was just holding the position and not trying to finish.
7/11/12 9:41 PM
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 As much as I thought Chael has won 5 out of 7 rounds between the two. Anderson won them when it counted.

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