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7/16/12 4:13 PM
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PrestigeWorldwide
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I see both sides here. If ZUFFA is a performance based company, why don't they include the training camp as part of their performance? Fight camps are 8-12 weeks long, so you have to go through all that, then IF your promoter doesn't like the show you put on, you're screwed?

It's just way too much control for a company to have. They won't be able to operate like this forever. Not if they plan on poaching potential athletes from any of the three major sports. MMA will always be a last resort for athletes because they will always chase their NFL dreams of signing a $50 million contract with $10-15 mil guaranteed.
7/16/12 4:17 PM
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UGCTT_molsonmuscle360 -   especially since from what I understand Zuffa pays the taxes on those bonuses so you get tax-free money. 


Where did you hear this nonsense?
7/16/12 4:28 PM
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UGCTT_molsonmuscle360 -   especially since from what I understand Zuffa pays the taxes on those bonuses so you get tax-free money. 


Where did you hear this nonsense?


*insert* Dana White "That's Fucking Illegal" .gif
7/16/12 4:33 PM
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Creepy How long does it take to get the cash after u fight. I thought one of the reasons that the disclose amounts were lower was because they handed that amount to the commission and the fighter would get paid that whatever happens so they hold some back so that they can punish the fighter for missing weight or press conferences or stuff is that anywhere close or bullshit? Phone Post
7/16/12 5:34 PM
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Thanks for sharing.

So cool to know a little about what goes on, and what you guys really get paid.

7/16/12 5:41 PM
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KZTT_W85 -  Wow, a fighter who is making a living in this game says we get paid alot more than the fans think. Monthly sponsorship pay and things are great.

I'm a creepy fan but as he himself stated, his UFC record is currently modest and he still feels well taken care of.

Still not enough to satisfy some, my god!! Phone Post

 Because UGers know what's best for the fighters- more so than the fighters=)

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7/16/12 5:46 PM
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Macedawgg -  Well I for one am just utterly shocked that this thread is now appearing!

 How come?


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7/16/12 5:52 PM
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I think they should pay guys that show up to really fight bonuses, even if it's not FOTN bonuses.

They should immediately threaten to cut the Guidas and Condits if they run and don't fight.

It's like watching somebody running for a touchdown in the NFL gas out and the 20 yard line and put the ball down.
7/16/12 5:54 PM
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CindyO - 
KZTT_W85 -  Wow, a fighter who is making a living in this game says we get paid alot more than the fans think. Monthly sponsorship pay and things are great.

I'm a creepy fan but as he himself stated, his UFC record is currently modest and he still feels well taken care of.

Still not enough to satisfy some, my god!! Phone Post

 Because UGers know what's best for the fighters- more so than the fighters=)

Cindy

you mean UGers know best for the fighters, even though they don't even know what they're making.
7/16/12 5:57 PM
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If only people would learn to mind their own business. Why they think they are entitled to know how much someone makes is beyond me. If they are not paid via tax payers it is none of your concern.

This goes for the press as well. I don't see them putting their pay out there for the World.

The UFC does not put their fighters pay out there for the same reason my employer avoids it.

Most fighters are College educated and have other avenues for financial success if they so choose. Let them worry about their personal business.

Always enjoy watching you fight Ian. I appreciate anyone who fights to win, rather then fighting not to lose.
7/16/12 6:02 PM
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They don't disclose fighter pay because the child support police will show up.

... right?
7/16/12 6:05 PM
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Nice to see that fighters are getting paid for a good performance.
7/16/12 6:05 PM
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nobones - Being "worth $2 billion" isn't the same as having $2 billion on cash for payroll. A company usually has a fraction of what they are worth as available funds for payroll. The Zuffa/Forza runs ~34 cards per year between Strikeforce and UFC. They have enormous production, marketing and coordination and logistics budgets. They have a staff of nearly 200 employees in 5 offices and they have to finance these operations on a day to day basis...can you imagine what they pay in hotels and airfare in a given month? So they have to cover the published fighter purses with the revenue from the gate. And while they publish low numbers, several UFC fighters like Matt Brown, Uncle Creepy, Scott McCorkle, Jacob Volkmann have stated that they get anywhere between 50-100% above the published payout from the UFC before OTN bonuses. Also, the low published payouts allow the UFC to take chances on guys. Would the UFC have taken a chance on Jon Jones to come in as a last minute substitution if they had to pay him $50k up front? Probably not. Phone Post
Someone actually gets it.


Lol at Scott McCorkle though hahahah Phone Post

 
Why LOL@ Sean?


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7/16/12 6:15 PM
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nobones - Being "worth $2 billion" isn't the same as having $2 billion on cash for payroll. A company usually has a fraction of what they are worth as available funds for payroll. The Zuffa/Forza runs ~34 cards per year between Strikeforce and UFC. They have enormous production, marketing and coordination and logistics budgets. They have a staff of nearly 200 employees in 5 offices and they have to finance these operations on a day to day basis...can you imagine what they pay in hotels and airfare in a given month? So they have to cover the published fighter purses with the revenue from the gate. And while they publish low numbers, several UFC fighters like Matt Brown, Uncle Creepy, Scott McCorkle, Jacob Volkmann have stated that they get anywhere between 50-100% above the published payout from the UFC before OTN bonuses. Also, the low published payouts allow the UFC to take chances on guys. Would the UFC have taken a chance on Jon Jones to come in as a last minute substitution if they had to pay him $50k up front? Probably not. Phone Post
Someone actually gets it.


Lol at Scott McCorkle though hahahah Phone Post

 
Why LOL@ Sean?


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It says Scott not Sean thats why I said lol @ Scott? Phone Post
7/16/12 6:15 PM
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CindyO - 
UGCTT_BlahBreh - 
nobones - Being "worth $2 billion" isn't the same as having $2 billion on cash for payroll. A company usually has a fraction of what they are worth as available funds for payroll. The Zuffa/Forza runs ~34 cards per year between Strikeforce and UFC. They have enormous production, marketing and coordination and logistics budgets. They have a staff of nearly 200 employees in 5 offices and they have to finance these operations on a day to day basis...can you imagine what they pay in hotels and airfare in a given month? So they have to cover the published fighter purses with the revenue from the gate. And while they publish low numbers, several UFC fighters like Matt Brown, Uncle Creepy, Scott McCorkle, Jacob Volkmann have stated that they get anywhere between 50-100% above the published payout from the UFC before OTN bonuses. Also, the low published payouts allow the UFC to take chances on guys. Would the UFC have taken a chance on Jon Jones to come in as a last minute substitution if they had to pay him $50k up front? Probably not. Phone Post
Someone actually gets it.


Lol at Scott McCorkle though hahahah Phone Post

 
Why LOL@ Sean?


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He said Scott, not Sean.
 
7/16/12 6:39 PM
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CindyO - 
UGCTT_BlahBreh - 
nobones - Being "worth $2 billion" isn't the same as having $2 billion on cash for payroll. A company usually has a fraction of what they are worth as available funds for payroll. The Zuffa/Forza runs ~34 cards per year between Strikeforce and UFC. They have enormous production, marketing and coordination and logistics budgets. They have a staff of nearly 200 employees in 5 offices and they have to finance these operations on a day to day basis...can you imagine what they pay in hotels and airfare in a given month? So they have to cover the published fighter purses with the revenue from the gate. And while they publish low numbers, several UFC fighters like Matt Brown, Uncle Creepy, Scott McCorkle, Jacob Volkmann have stated that they get anywhere between 50-100% above the published payout from the UFC before OTN bonuses. Also, the low published payouts allow the UFC to take chances on guys. Would the UFC have taken a chance on Jon Jones to come in as a last minute substitution if they had to pay him $50k up front? Probably not. Phone Post
Someone actually gets it.


Lol at Scott McCorkle though hahahah Phone Post

 
Why LOL@ Sean?


Cindy
He said Scott, not Sean.
 
But he meant Sean, not Scott.
 
7/16/12 6:44 PM
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 ^^^ Thanks guys. It went right over my head!


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7/16/12 6:57 PM
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LOL 8 pages
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nobones - Being "worth $2 billion" isn't the same as having $2 billion on cash for payroll. A company usually has a fraction of what they are worth as available funds for payroll. The Zuffa/Forza runs ~34 cards per year between Strikeforce and UFC. They have enormous production, marketing and coordination and logistics budgets. They have a staff of nearly 200 employees in 5 offices and they have to finance these operations on a day to day basis...can you imagine what they pay in hotels and airfare in a given month? So they have to cover the published fighter purses with the revenue from the gate. And while they publish low numbers, several UFC fighters like Matt Brown, Uncle Creepy, Scott McCorkle, Jacob Volkmann have stated that they get anywhere between 50-100% above the published payout from the UFC before OTN bonuses. Also, the low published payouts allow the UFC to take chances on guys. Would the UFC have taken a chance on Jon Jones to come in as a last minute substitution if they had to pay him $50k up front? Probably not. <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


I thought logic and understanding were outlawed on the UG? You sir are a rebel.
7/16/12 7:04 PM
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7/16/12 7:19 PM
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No fighter is going to come out and say the UFC payroll sucks if super stars like Rampage and Couture are complaining about money it means nothing when a new UFC fighter comes and boasts about there pay...... Its expected. Phone Post
7/16/12 8:32 PM
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 Cheers for sharing, Mr. McCall; can't wait to see you fight next!

WAR CREEPY!
7/16/12 8:40 PM
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8 Pages of everyone complaining about fighter pay but the fighters LOL
7/16/12 8:48 PM
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DeusEx - I don't buy it.



IMO He only paid you more because your an UGer and your division is new and you were in the main card.



How about all those fighters who fight in prelims?....I doubt dana gives them 20k +.



Maybe they should market themselves better? Or put in the time Ian spends with his fans? Just a thought.<br><br>Other than that he prolly didn't pay em 80k cause I doubt 20,000 Australians were on there feet as he slammed DJ's head into the canvas while screaming and riding him like a fuckin buckin bronco <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>



A lot of them do their jobs and finish fights...


Is pretty sad that that I make more money than fighters.
This is the argument that Diaz uses. He shouldn't have to promote the fightvto make the money.

But guess what.


You do.

If the perception is test Ian only feats paid more because of hid following due yo the Ug, it would be plain stupidity to fit utilize this gift that the Ug provides.


Promote yourself, promote your fight and be a fucking boss. Tests the creepy way Phone Post
Wow, slow down autocorrect. Phone Post
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7/16/12 10:44 PM
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The real question Ian.. Has Dana told you to stop talking about it yet?? Phone Post

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