UnderGround Forums
 

UnderGround Forums >> UFC PAY??


7/16/12 10:58 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Reggie Warren Jr
161 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 11/19/08
Posts: 2407
Reggie Warren Jr, The Man
You will never see a current fighter on the roster come on here and say, "Well, I made more than expecting my last fight because I was given a bonus for FON...but this last fight pay sucked! I made 16K to show up and about 7k in sponsors. I lost the fight by split decision and no bonus money was awarded.  I made 23K total, but have to pay my manager 20% and save a little for taxes. Oh yeah, I need to kick back some money to my coaches and a few training partners who helped me out...Damn, I think I'm down to about 10k?"
7/16/12 11:23 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT_BlahBreh
69 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Edited: 07/16/12 11:24 PM
Member Since: 11/26/07
Posts: 13281
.
7/16/12 11:24 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT_BlahBreh
69 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Edited: 07/16/12 11:25 PM
Member Since: 11/26/07
Posts: 13282
coaches, agents, managers, dont get ANY of ians bonus money, which was 50k for first fight and 25k for second..

pretty damn good money to keep to yourself for your family.
7/17/12 12:28 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Scramslam
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 2/25/06
Posts: 4119
thanks for sharing man, what are the dana haters going to say now?
7/17/12 12:52 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
12
187 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 9/12/04
Posts: 9261
 what took you so long ?why didnt you say something when the 1st thread came up and we all said you were getting f .......ked. little shady
7/17/12 12:56 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
CindyO
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 2/10/06
Posts: 19517
Zed Wayne Zed - Cool.

We got any other UFc fighters who can chime?

You deserve that, but not convinced that's the common ground.

 So UGers can doubt them next? Not likely:)


Cindy
7/17/12 1:01 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
CindyO
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 2/10/06
Posts: 19518
Reggie Warren Jr - You will never see a current fighter on the roster come on here and say, "Well, I made more than expecting my last fight because I was given a bonus for FON...but this last fight pay sucked! I made 16K to show up and about 7k in sponsors. I lost the fight by split decision and no bonus money was awarded.  I made 23K total, but have to pay my manager 20% and save a little for taxes. Oh yeah, I need to kick back some money to my coaches and a few training partners who helped me out...Damn, I think I'm down to about 10k?"

Good Lord, how on Earth do fighters make it in all of the other shows? How do they pay their managers, agents, coaches and taxes? Where are their threads, Reggie???


Cindy
7/17/12 1:29 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
stonepony
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 9/1/11
Posts: 2846
MMALOGIC -  I dont have a problem with Zuffa's total payout... I have a problem of the structure and how it's distributed.

Show money needs to represent at least 2/3rds of a fighters paycheck.  this I believe will create an environment where fighters can perform better.

the biggest obstacle fighters face on average is taking what they do in the gym and bringing it into the octogan... In general there are only 2 major differences between the octogan and the gym besides the opponent not being a atraining partner...

The first differencce are the lights/crowd...  this discomfort mitigates itself the more time you get in the octogan.

The second difference is Money...  Money is a huge factor once you enter the octogan compared to the gym... this stress can be largely mitigated if the athlete knows they already earned 2/3rds of their pay by just making it through the camp and into the octogan. 

I dont have a problem with the total payout... I have a problem with how the total payout is distributed.  I have a problem with nearly 2/3rds of a payroll (non ppv cut talent)  being made up of bonus money.

this type of boiler room operation is unproductive... it hurts zuffa, it hurts the fighters, and it hurts the fans. 
I think Zuffa and the UFC have probably got the right formula. They know what they're doing. Other companies have to pay huge numbers to draw fighters away from the UFC. And, they tank. The UFC needs to keep doing what it's doing, and keep building, and maintain a solid rational growth-oriented business model.

It doesn't help the fighters for their organization to go bankrupt. The money right now is better spent in advertising and promotion. IMO.

I'd like to see a lot more discretionary bonuses handed out though. Announced at the post-fight presser. Other than FOTN, SOTF, KOOTN, I'd like to see DW hand them out just-because. He's done that plenty, giving extra FOTN bonuses, or win bonuses to fighters who got robbed. etc. I'd like to see more of it though. Throw the under-card guys a bone.
7/17/12 2:35 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT_UncleCreepy
1271 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 6/19/02
Posts: 5103
www.UncleCreepyMMA.com, UGCTT President
12 -  what took you so long ?why didnt you say something when the 1st thread came up and we all said you were getting f .......ked. little shady


well.. given the fact i thought i was gonna be fighting on the UFC on FOX card in 2 1/2 weeks ive been very busy.

Now that i know I'm not i had an opportunity to come on here and read some threads about me and so im responding to the fans.
7/17/12 2:38 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
KZTT_FawkingxD
130 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 4/30/12
Posts: 763
UGCTT_UncleCreepy - 
12 -  what took you so long ?why didnt you say something when the 1st thread came up and we all said you were getting f .......ked. little shady


well.. given the fact i thought i was gonna be fighting on the UFC on FOX card in 2 1/2 weeks ive been very busy.

Now that i know I'm not i had an opportunity to come on here and read some threads about me and so im responding to the fans.



YES
7/17/12 2:39 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT_UncleCreepy
1271 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 6/19/02
Posts: 5104
www.UncleCreepyMMA.com, UGCTT President
pretty funny in 24 hours it got to 8 pages and almost 15k views lol..


hey can some of these views goto my facebook fan page and click the "like" button???

i shoulda put that in the OP at the end.. fml :)
7/17/12 2:42 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Reggie Warren Jr
161 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 11/19/08
Posts: 2409
Reggie Warren Jr, The Man
CindyO - 
Reggie Warren Jr - You will never see a current fighter on the roster come on here and say, "Well, I made more than expecting my last fight because I was given a bonus for FON...but this last fight pay sucked! I made 16K to show up and about 7k in sponsors. I lost the fight by split decision and no bonus money was awarded.  I made 23K total, but have to pay my manager 20% and save a little for taxes. Oh yeah, I need to kick back some money to my coaches and a few training partners who helped me out...Damn, I think I'm down to about 10k?"

Good Lord, how on Earth do fighters make it in all of the other shows? How do they pay their managers, agents, coaches and taxes? Where are their threads, Reggie???


Cindy

Ha. Serious question Cindy...how many professional fighters are you friends with?
7/17/12 2:59 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT Captain America
312 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 4/19/10
Posts: 4993
UGCTT_UncleCreepy - pretty funny in 24 hours it got to 8 pages and almost 15k views lol..


hey can some of these views goto my facebook fan page and click the "like" button???

i shoulda put that in the OP at the end.. fml :)
I just liked you on facebook, Creepy Phone Post
7/17/12 3:01 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT_UncleCreepy
1271 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 6/19/02
Posts: 5105
www.UncleCreepyMMA.com, UGCTT President
UGCTT Captain America - 
UGCTT_UncleCreepy - pretty funny in 24 hours it got to 8 pages and almost 15k views lol..


hey can some of these views goto my facebook fan page and click the "like" button???

i shoulda put that in the OP at the end.. fml :)
I just liked you on facebook, Creepy Phone Post


hahahah thanks!
7/17/12 3:20 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT Captain America
312 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 4/19/10
Posts: 4994
By the way, I met you in Vegas. I got a bitchin' photo with you I wanted to share.
Phone Post
7/17/12 3:44 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT_UncleCreepy
1271 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 6/19/02
Posts: 5106
www.UncleCreepyMMA.com, UGCTT President
LOL i told you i would do it :)
7/17/12 3:54 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Size
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 7/12/12
Posts: 36
dustin dustin - Seriously, tho...non-contract bonuses are bullshit. Its a breeding ground for curruption. Who knows for what reasons dana gives bonuses for? Pay a fighter to injure another fighter? Pay a fighter to fake an injury? Who knows. Also, did you pay taxes on your 25k bonus? I bet the IRS aint to happy.

Isn't the main object of a fight to hurt the other guy? What are they gonna get paid extra to immediately try to snap the limb in whatever sub they catch? That's ridiculous.
What are you proposing anyway? A law against non-contract bonuses? Again, ridiculous, and it's obviously the only way to stop a company from doing it if that's what they want to do.
Also, did you pay taxes on your 25k bonus? I bet the IRS aint to happy.

Are you trolling, or just flat out stupid?
7/17/12 4:17 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT Captain America
312 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 4/19/10
Posts: 4995
UGCTT_UncleCreepy - LOL i told you i would do it :)
Yeah, and it was easily the coolest photo I got. Thanks Phone Post
7/17/12 4:53 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT_SidRival
548 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 10/21/10
Posts: 2445
UGCTT Captain America - By the way, I met you in Vegas. I got a bitchin' photo with you I wanted to share.
Phone Post
This is amazing...ly creepy and awesome! Phone Post
7/17/12 5:58 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT_UncleCreepy
1271 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 6/19/02
Posts: 5107
www.UncleCreepyMMA.com, UGCTT President
UGCTT_painbringer -  what happens if u get alot of 'likes" on facebook?

your cock gets bigger?




if you have a big following it helps us.
7/17/12 5:59 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
UGCTT_UncleCreepy
1271 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 6/19/02
Posts: 5108
www.UncleCreepyMMA.com, UGCTT President
UGCTT_SidRival - 
UGCTT Captain America - By the way, I met you in Vegas. I got a bitchin' photo with you I wanted to share.
Phone Post
This is amazing...ly creepy and awesome! Phone Post


i said id do it and he asked i was like okay ya lets do it of coarse, i said i would! :)

i love my UG brothas
7/17/12 8:51 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
Humphrey
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 5/18/09
Posts: 15876
UGCTT Captain America - By the way, I met you in Vegas. I got a bitchin' photo with you I wanted to share.
Phone Post

That picture is awesome. lol
7/17/12 9:40 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
MiamiJ
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 1/18/12
Posts: 97
Creepy keeps it real.
7/17/12 10:27 AM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
crumbs
1 The total sum of your votes up and votes down Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 3/14/11
Posts: 231
Mma fans , it's like time traveling to the past when people thought football players didn't get paid enough.

Now look at them, you have fans complaining football players get paid too much, yet you can walk down to any random home depot and buy 2x4 off former NFL players who are broke as fuck.

Some people make drew Bree's money(20 mill per year),some people make Pratice roster money (88k yr)

Some people make Anderson silva money, some people make undercard money.

MMA fans , think there sport is different then any other sport, that's the know it all mentality of "hardcore" fans I guess. Well mma isn't any different.
7/17/12 4:01 PM
Ignore | Quote | Vote Down | Vote Up
stonepony
Send Private Message Add Comment To Profile

Member Since: 9/1/11
Posts: 2850
UGCTT_UncleCreepy - 
UGCTT_SidRival - 
UGCTT Captain America - By the way, I met you in Vegas. I got a bitchin' photo with you I wanted to share.<br><img src="http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/9586/ufcfanexpounclecreepy.jpg" <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>
This is amazing...ly creepy and awesome! <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


i said id do it and he asked i was like okay ya lets do it of coarse, i said i would! :)

i love my UG brothas
Should have taken another photo, with you holding him. Piggy-back ride maybe.

Reply Post

You must log in to post a reply. Click here to login.