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"I absolutely, positively want Matt Hughes to retire," White on Thursday told a small group of assembled media following a news conference for UFC on FOX 4. "What else is there to accomplish? The guy's done everything. He's been a staple in this organization for a long time. He's been f------ awesome. There's nothing left to prove."

"It's so hard for these guys to say 'I'm retired.' It's so hard. The same thing with Chuck, I'm going through it with Matt."

"I would like Forrest to retire. There's nothing left for Forrest to prove, either. He won 'The Ultimate Fighter,' he's had an amazing career, he won the title when everyone thought he couldn't, he's made s--- loads of money, he's got a beautiful wife, he's got a baby.

"If you don't want to be a world champion and you're not in the mix, like I call it, why? What's the point?"

"I get it – it's hard to walk away from walking into the arena with the big crowds and all the s---. But there's a point in time when it's like, 'You've done your thing, man. You've had an amazing career, you've done great things – there's nothing left to prove.'

"He doesn't like hearing it. He doesn't want to hear me."

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8/2/12 4:51 PM
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So Griffin really does have brain damage?
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As my favorite fighter for a long time, I agree with Hughes.

Don't want to see any more fights like the Koscheck fight, and I really don't think he can be competitive against the top fighters any more.

Forrest i think can still hang to some degree, his issues seem to be motivational more than physical decline.
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After reading excerpts from Matt's book, i would like to see him get his ass kicked a few more times. Phone Post
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SonnendbySilva - One last fight with bonnar! Phone Post
Forrest/Bonnar 3 and they both retire would be a great way for both men to go out. Phone Post
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Right Hand JO Power - After reading excerpts from Matt's book, i would like to see him get his ass kicked a few more times. Phone Post
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Underground Blog - <style type="text/css"> .Article h3{ font-family: Helvetica,Arial,Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; color: black; padding: 0 0 3px 5px; margin: 0 0 2px 0; } .Article h3 a{ text-decoration: none; color: black; } .Article .ArticleSource{ float: left; } </style> <div class="Article" style="float: left;"> <table> <tr style="vertical-align: bottom;"> <td> <h3><a href="/go=news.detail&gid=415014" target="_blank"> DFW: Time for Hughes, Griffin to retire </a></h3> </td> </tr> </table> <a href="/go=news.detail&gid=415014" ><img class="photo" src="" /></a> <div style="clear: both; line-height: 1px;height: 1px;"> </div> </div> <p>It's a fight Dana White has had to go through before, and there's no doubt he'll have to go through it again.

When it comes to telling star fighters on the tail end of their careers that it's time to hang up the gloves, the UFC president almost always will get some push-back. Lately, a couple former champions top that list.

Former welterweight champion Matt Hughes and former light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin both are fighters the UFC boss believes should call it quits, for largely the same reasons.</p> <div style="clear: left; line-height: 1px;height: 1px;"> </div>
Where's the quote? Is this even an article? <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>

first post of the thread, i couldnt see it on my phone for some reason
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Unless there are serious issues like there was with Chuck getting KO'd as much as he did, then he should just leave it to the fighters. Let them decide when they are done.
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Matt will always be the best of all times. All timeS! Phone Post
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Hughes still has a few fights left in him.

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GSP24 -  Isn't Forrest only 33?

They're 2 of my favorites. I don't want Hughes to get to double digit losses. Phone Post

 Fighters like Forrest and Wand age a lot faster than many of their counterparts because they get punched in the head so damned much.  Hell, Hughes probably has more traction on the tires these days than Forrest and they are around 5 years in age difference.
8/2/12 5:21 PM
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Hughes could get a win against Shields, imho.

He'd do really well in that fight.
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Griffin's speech is only a few notches behind James Toney's!

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I've never been a Hughes fan but he looked sharp early vs. Kos. Clearly he's been working on his standup (though maybe 4-5 years too late) and it showed. I doubt he could be WW champ again nor even a top contender but there are guys just below that level he can do well against so why not?
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JerodR - Unless there are serious issues like there was with Chuck getting KO'd as much as he did, then he should just leave it to the fighters. Let them decide when they are done.


Ultimately, I agree. The decision is the fighter's and no one should tell him what to do.

However, as a long-time fan, I want to see Hughes retire. He was a dominant champ in his day, but he's obviously never going to reach anywhere near that level again, so what's the fucking point?

I understand the need to compete, but when you've been at the top, I just don't understand the point in competing at lower level.
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Right Hand JO Power - After reading excerpts from Matt's book, i would like to see him get his ass kicked a few more times. Phone Post
What did he say? Phone Post

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=1691049
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GSP24 - Isn't Forrest only 33?<br><br>They're 2 of my favorites. I don't want Hughes to get to double digit losses. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


Well that explains your shogun hate, butthurt.

I don't think Forrest should retire though. Matt Hughes should though.
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People still love to see them fight, win or lose it's exciting. Don't let go, I wrestled my whole life and would give my left nut for one more season. By the way, how do I get blue name like all the cool kids?
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GSP24 -  Isn't Forrest only 33?

They're 2 of my favorites. I don't want Hughes to get to double digit losses. Phone Post

 Fighters like Forrest and Wand age a lot faster than many of their counterparts because they get punched in the head so damned much.  Hell, Hughes probably has more traction on the tires these days than Forrest and they are around 5 years in age difference.
But Forrest is only losing to guys like Rashad, Anderson and Shogun over the past 4 years. There's no shame in that. He's not losing to bums. Phone Post
Shame has nothing to do with it.  Forrest fights the exact opposite of how your coaches teach you.  No "chin down, hands up" for ol' Forrest.  Dude blocks punches with his face.  That kind of stuff stacks up on a mans noggin.  That's probably why he's been acting so weird lately.  Last thing I would want is for Forrest to end up like James Toney or even worse like all the hockey enforcers like Wade Belak and Derek Boogard who's head injuries indirectly caused their deaths.
 
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GSP24 -  Isn't Forrest only 33?

They're 2 of my favorites. I don't want Hughes to get to double digit losses. Phone Post

 Fighters like Forrest and Wand age a lot faster than many of their counterparts because they get punched in the head so damned much.  Hell, Hughes probably has more traction on the tires these days than Forrest and they are around 5 years in age difference.
But Forrest is only losing to guys like Rashad, Anderson and Shogun over the past 4 years. There's no shame in that. He's not losing to bums. Phone Post
Shame has nothing to do with it.  Forrest fights the exact opposite of how your coaches teach you.  No "chin down, hands up" for ol' Forrest.  Dude blocks punches with his face.  That kind of stuff stacks up on a mans noggin.  That's probably why he's been acting so weird lately.  Last thing I would want is for Forrest to end up like James Toney or even worse like all the hockey enforcers like Wade Belak and Derek Boogard who's head injuries indirectly caused their deaths.
 
Funny thing is thats how many fighters block punches. Cant expect expert level striking when youre training to make 5+ different aspects of ffighting work together istinctually.
 
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GSP24 -  Isn't Forrest only 33?

They're 2 of my favorites. I don't want Hughes to get to double digit losses. Phone Post

 Fighters like Forrest and Wand age a lot faster than many of their counterparts because they get punched in the head so damned much.  Hell, Hughes probably has more traction on the tires these days than Forrest and they are around 5 years in age difference.
But Forrest is only losing to guys like Rashad, Anderson and Shogun over the past 4 years. There's no shame in that. He's not losing to bums. Phone Post
Shame has nothing to do with it.  Forrest fights the exact opposite of how your coaches teach you.  No "chin down, hands up" for ol' Forrest.  Dude blocks punches with his face.  That kind of stuff stacks up on a mans noggin.  That's probably why he's been acting so weird lately.  Last thing I would want is for Forrest to end up like James Toney or even worse like all the hockey enforcers like Wade Belak and Derek Boogard who's head injuries indirectly caused their deaths.
 
Funny thing is thats how many fighters block punches. Cant expect expert level striking when youre training to make 5+ different aspects of ffighting work together istinctually.
 
I wasn't trying to knock Forrest by any means.  He's an exciting fighter and always puts on a show.  But because of that he is going to have a shorter career than guys like GSP or Anderson.
 
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Andy the man - Griffin's speech is only a few notches behind James Toney's!

This. Very unfortunate to see how punch drunk Forrest has become between TUF and now. He's been known for hard sparring. Phone Post

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