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8/7/12 10:41 AM
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"I was not there [in the corner] because I had a problem with Dida's coaching in Mauricio's last fight [against Dan Henderson]. Then he came to me and said I would not be training with my brother, so I thought it best to follow my path. Now I'm just his brother, I do not do any training with him," he says.

"I did not like how he was leading the preparation of Mauritius for the fight against Dan Henderson. I may err, but I'm his brother and I'm always with him. I did not like the things [Dida] spoke and did. But now I'm training at another gym, happy, and on my way in search of other achievements and opportunities."

www.fightersonlymag.com/content/news/16913-shogun-and-ninja-go-separate-ways-after-tension-with-coach

 
8/7/12 10:55 AM
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Didn't ninja retire??? Please retire Phone Post
8/7/12 11:05 AM
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these 2 have always been super close

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8/7/12 11:07 AM
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If Dida is the one telling Shogun to hang back as much as he sometimes does when he thinks he has a lead, Ninja has a point.
8/7/12 11:27 AM
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or telling shogun to stay in the pocket and throw lead uppercuts against Dan Henderson.... BAD strategy
8/7/12 11:29 AM
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Is Dida the fate guy acting as.interpreters at the pressers? Phone Post
8/7/12 11:30 AM
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Gerbacio - Didn't ninja retire??? Please retire Phone Post
Last thing I heard he had a fight with Paulo Fhilo booked.

Not sure if it's still happening though... Phone Post
8/7/12 11:30 AM
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8/7/12 11:34 AM
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Sounds like Ninja and the coach had the fallout Phone Post
8/7/12 11:34 AM
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Jack Skellington - these 2 have always been super close

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8/7/12 11:39 AM
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I was wondering why Ninja wasnt in Shoguns corner the other night
8/7/12 11:45 AM
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This sets up the ultimate brother v brother matchup nicely.

Shogun v Ninja - live on PP-View - who here would buy that?

I actually think that this could be one last big payday for Shogun. Lets face the facts, he cannot compete at the higest level anymore since his 2 beatdowns by hendo and jones.

8/7/12 11:50 AM
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 who was the one telling him to try to wrestle dan? he should be fired
8/7/12 12:00 PM
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superChaelo - This sets up the ultimate brother v brother matchup nicely.

Shogun v Ninja - live on PP-View - who here would buy that?

I actually think that this could be one last big payday for Shogun. Lets face the facts, he cannot compete at the higest level anymore since his 2 beatdowns by hendo and jones.

Just stop it. Phone Post
8/7/12 12:09 PM
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SleepBomb -  who was the one telling him to try to wrestle dan? he should be fired


That was his best chance to win since he was getting destroyed standing
8/7/12 12:16 PM
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superChaelo - This sets up the ultimate brother v brother matchup nicely.

Shogun v Ninja - live on PP-View - who here would buy that?

I actually think that this could be one last big payday for Shogun. Lets face the facts, he cannot compete at the higest level anymore since his 2 beatdowns by hendo and jones.

Just stop it. <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


I know as a fan it must be hard for you take, but reality must be faced.

2 brutal beatdowns later and he is just not the same fighter. Dana white would prefer to give the title shot to a karate guy than watch shogun take a 3rd brutal beating.

8/7/12 12:24 PM
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Shogun needs to keep training in kings mma there they can push him Phone Post
8/7/12 12:31 PM
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Love Ninja but he should never ever fight again. Other fighters are commenting on how he is hard to understand backstage his brains have been so scrambled...

Sad to hear that Ninja won't be in Shogun's corner anymore. That is a real shame.

Sounds A LOT like  Shogun's camp is really not good. From what people are saying to how gassed he always seems. I think he badly needs to change camps.....
8/7/12 12:50 PM
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Haulport - Love Ninja but he should never ever fight again. Other fighters are commenting on how he is hard to understand backstage his brains have been so scrambled...

Sad to hear that Ninja won't be in Shogun's corner anymore. That is a real shame.

Sounds A LOT like  Shogun's camp is really not good. From what people are saying to how gassed he always seems. I think he badly needs to change camps.....
sad if true, hope Shogun is still okay Phone Post
8/7/12 12:55 PM
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Gerbacio - Didn't ninja retire??? Please retire Phone Post
Last thing I heard he had a fight with Paulo Fhilo booked.

Not sure if it's still happening though... Phone Post
It was booked and they weighed in then the card fell through. I think. Phone Post
8/7/12 12:57 PM
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8/7/12 1:00 PM
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Gerbacio - Didn't ninja retire??? Please retire Phone Post
Last thing I heard he had a fight with Paulo Fhilo booked.

Not sure if it's still happening though... Phone Post
It was booked and they weighed in then the card fell through. I think. Phone Post
Ahh. I knew something wasn't right lol. Just couldn't remember what... Phone Post
8/7/12 1:03 PM
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8/7/12 1:17 PM
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SleepBomb -  who was the one telling him to try to wrestle dan? he should be fired


That was his best chance to win since he was getting destroyed standing
really? i remember shogun trying to clinch with dan in 1st 2 rounds and getting destroyed. then in the last 2 rounds he gave it up and did a lot better.  forget about the 3rd.

shogun should have fought dan the way he did machida the 1st time
 
8/7/12 1:18 PM
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Terrible to hear. Dida is a pride and k-1 max veteran though. Phone Post

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