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8/7/12 1:19 PM
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8/7/12 1:32 PM
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Sad to hear. Phone Post
8/7/12 2:36 PM
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Shogun is such a savage. It's depressing that he won't train in a top camp.
8/7/12 2:43 PM
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Dude did Filho seriously get a face tat too?
8/7/12 2:50 PM
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J2C1 - Is Dida the fate guy acting as.interpreters at the pressers? <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


No! Dida is/was a fighter and is a good Muay Thai fighter. Google him if you want to know who he is.


Ya guy hit hard but was generally pretty sloppy and ended up getting outstruck a lot. Which is somewhat how Shogun is fighting lately. Its entertaining to watch but it might not be best for Shoguns career
8/7/12 2:56 PM
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AK-BJJ - Dude did Filho seriously get a face tat too?
Yup lol.

He had so much potential a few years ago, then something happened.... Huge waste of talent. Phone Post
8/7/12 3:02 PM
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superChaelo - This sets up the ultimate brother v brother matchup nicely.

Shogun v Ninja - live on PP-View - who here would buy that?

I actually think that this could be one last big payday for Shogun. Lets face the facts, he cannot compete at the higest level anymore since his 2 beatdowns by hendo and jones.

Quit trying to act like Calo. You totally suck at it. Phone Post
8/7/12 3:07 PM
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I couldn't stand Calo when I first started reading threads in the UG, but he is the only tolerable troll, he's never disrespectful, and he brings 'color, I guess to the forums.

He can't be imitated either, sry. Phone Post
8/7/12 3:12 PM
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AK-BJJ - Dude did Filho seriously get a face tat too?
Yup lol.<br><br>He had so much potential a few years ago, then something happened.... Huge waste of talent. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


One of my favorite gifs of all time is that fight in the WEC when he was literally talking or looking at a ghost during a fight... WTF?
8/7/12 7:10 PM
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8/7/12 7:46 PM
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AK-BJJ - Dude did Filho seriously get a face tat too?
Yup lol.<br><br>He had so much potential a few years ago, then something happened.... Huge waste of talent. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


He was/or still is addicted to drugs
8/7/12 8:18 PM
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i wonder what he doesnt like about his bro's training.
I can only think of one fight where he brought it all together and that was the first Machida fight. This last fight for instance he was flat footed, not showing a lot of movement.
I dont if its injury, strategy, or if he is just plain lazy
8/7/12 9:04 PM
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AK-BJJ - Dude did Filho seriously get a face tat too?

Yep. He also has one on his chest that says "reward hunter". My guess is he wanted "bounty hunter" but the translation was a little bit off.
8/7/12 9:15 PM
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AK-BJJ - Dude did Filho seriously get a face tat too?
Yup lol.<br><br>He had so much potential a few years ago, then something happened.... Huge waste of talent. <img src="/images/phone/apple.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


One of my favorite gifs of all time is that fight in the WEC when he was literally talking or looking at a ghost during a fight... WTF?
Yea that was the second Sonnen fight I believe.

He said something about fighting demons inside the cage... He definitely has a screw loose... Phone Post
8/8/12 2:45 AM
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Shogun needs to leave dida, dida himself went from an a very good fighter to a lazy fighter in his later fights. And now its showing with shogun.

Shogun looked better training with his original chute boxe coach at kings for his fight with Forrest.

I would really like him to just go train with someone like dos santos again.

Either way he needs a top camp that will push him.
8/8/12 2:54 AM
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J2C1 - Is Dida the fate guy acting as.interpreters at the pressers? <img src="/images/phone/droid.png" alt="Phone Post" border="0" style="vertical-align:middle;"/>


No! Dida is/was a fighter and is a good Muay Thai fighter. Google him if you want to know who he is.


Ya guy hit hard but was generally pretty sloppy and ended up getting outstruck a lot. Which is somewhat how Shogun is fighting lately. Its entertaining to watch but it might not be best for Shoguns career


Agreed, after he left chute boxe in 2007 he opened his own gym and was never the same he did not look as in shape or dangerous.

Eddie alveraz, Kj noons, and kikuno even embarrassed him. I would say he declined significantly since leaving chute boxe and training at his own gym.
8/8/12 4:11 AM
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What was the deal with shogun leaving kings MMA? What happened? Phone Post
8/8/12 5:09 AM
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As far as i know he decided to train in brazil for hendo feeling he gets better "boxing" training instead of returning to kings.

After corderio seemed angry and felt shogun showed up out of shape again and did not train properly, after that I dont know what happened, their was an interview in Portuguese where shogun apparently felt slighted by corderios comments. Corderio had nice things to say about shogun before the vera fight...Maybe he felt bad, even though I thought he was telling the truth.

Fruhz and shogun later split as well (his manager who posts here), and ninja is now no longer training with his brother either feeling he is not training properly with dida.

Im on the outside looking in, but it seems shogun is siding with dida when alot of people close to him feel he needs a change.
8/8/12 3:12 PM
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I would like to see Shogun leave UDL. Not the right fit for him.
8/8/12 3:21 PM
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GOREILLAMAN - I would like to see Shogun leave UDL. Not the right fit for him.

Absolutely. He is one of the best in the world and with the right training could be a threat to Jones. Without it he has ZERO chance...
8/8/12 5:25 PM
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Isn't UDL Shogun's gym? Phone Post
8/8/12 8:59 PM
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I am not sure who owns the gym or how important it is, I thought it was shogun, ninja, dida.

Ninja apparently is training elsewhere now so did he sell his share? Dida also left the gym in 2010 to train in canada. Shogun has also trained elsewhere the past few years...


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