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8/14/12 10:39 PM
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Willin_But_Not_Chaeble
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Most likely valid since he knows Chael. Interesting...:


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How Sonnen/Griffin materialized: Chael was offered Wand for 12/29. Deemed Wand unworthy. Would retire instead. Asked 4 Forrest. Done deal.

 
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Chael/Wand would have been contested at 185. Chael not interested in someone 3-7 in last 10. Also feels better at 205.

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Tough fight for Chael to take. Forrest is a close friend. It's part of the road to . Everyone can be friends later.

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He beats Forrest, he'll get Jon Jones. RT : if he finishes him in great fashion, how far away from Jon jones?

8/14/12 10:42 PM
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8/14/12 10:42 PM
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 While grudge matches are fun to watch, but Wand would do nothing for Chael when it comes to the road to the 205 belt. 
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 another FAEL... ducker

8/14/12 10:43 PM
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Matt Phillips -  While grudge matches are fun to watch, but Wand would do nothing for Chael when it comes to the road to the 205 belt. 

lol and beating Forrest just puts him right at the top of the heap...



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8/14/12 10:43 PM
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Forrest is not a close friend of Chael's Phone Post
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The main question is whether Dana and co. will use a win over Forrest as justification for an immediate title shot @ 205 for Chael. Being a Chael fan I find it hard to justify.

I 100% don't believe Chael would fight Hendo if he wins since Dan was his mentor from the beginning.

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Wand fight would have been a murder.

Chael should take it.

205 needs new challengers.
8/14/12 10:45 PM
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Alpha World Peace - Forrest is not a close friend of Chael's Phone Post
Yea when was this ever a thing Phone Post
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Alpha World Peace -  Forrest is not a close friend of Chael's Phone Post

Well, you would know better than Chael so I will take your word for it
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"[Forrest is] a slow and unathletic light heavyweight"

- Chael on Forrest before Anderson v Sonnen 1.

I've never heard Chael say such things about his real friends like Lindland, Henderson, Leben, Herman, or Mir. Phone Post
8/14/12 10:46 PM
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Matt Phillips -  While grudge matches are fun to watch, but Wand would do nothing for Chael when it comes to the road to the 205 belt. 

lol and beating Forrest just puts him right at the top of the heap...



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A win over a former champion would put you closer than a win over Wand. Wouldn't you agree?
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These things always change but I'm sure it's true since Lorenzo and Dana will try to milk Chael's marketing skills in his twilight years of the sport. Still hard to justify from a competitive standpoint.


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He beats Forrest, he'll get Jon Jones. RT : if he finishes him in great fashion, how far away from Jon jones?

8/14/12 10:47 PM
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Forrest wins again. Phone Post
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antifret -  Forrest wins again. Phone Post

 
8/14/12 10:49 PM
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Forrest hasnt been relative in the 205 rankings for quite some time. He is just picking someone with a big name and is an easy win.
Wand looked good against guys like Franklin, Bisping. When he fights smart he is capable of beating a lot of guys.
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lol, if he gets Jones after beating Forrest its pathetic. Jones would straight up slaughter him...
8/14/12 10:51 PM
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Willin_But_Not_Chaeble - These things always change but I'm sure it's true since Lorenzo and Dana will try to milk Chael's marketing skills in his twilight years of the sport. Still hard to justify from a competitive standpoint.


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He beats Forrest, he'll get Jon Jones. RT : if he finishes him in great fashion, how far away from Jon jones?

FRB talking out of his anus again.

Not a chance in hell.

Rashad Evans beat Rampage, Thiago Silva, Tito, and Phil Davis to get a shot.

Dana would never give Chael a shot unless he had at least one more huge win over a top contender. At least. Phone Post
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Willin_But_Not_Chaeble - These things always change but I'm sure it's true since Lorenzo and Dana will try to milk Chael's marketing skills in his twilight years of the sport. Still hard to justify from a competitive standpoint.


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He beats Forrest, he'll get Jon Jones. RT : if he finishes him in great fashion, how far away from Jon jones?

Not only looking past Jones beating Hendo, but Machida as well Phone Post
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Sakuraba belt - Forrest hasnt been relative in the 205 rankings for quite some time. He is just picking someone with a big name and is an easy win.
Wand looked good against guys like Franklin, Bisping. When he fights smart he is capable of beating a lot of guys.
Forrest beat Franklin. Phone Post
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Oh, right. Machida. Didn't think of that. Eh - Chael can take 2 months off and wait.

They' might have Jones/Machida in Januaryish?

8/14/12 10:56 PM
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Hmmm... wonder if this is true. I doubt it considering how reverently Chael speaks of Dan. Though Dan might want to fight him to make it a big final payday for him due to Sonnen talking the card up. Then he'd concede the belt to Chael into the ring and ride off into the sunset. Team Quest retains the 205 belt...


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4 belt? Yes RT : I like Chael's chances against Forrest But everyone is ounting Hendo out.Would Chael fight Hendo?

8/14/12 11:04 PM
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Someone explain to me what makes Chael think he has a shot against Bones?

His only real success against Anderson was in taking him down. Jones is taller and bigger than Anderson. Chael also gives up a 10-inch reach advantage against Jones, rather than the 3-inch advantage that Anderson had. Oh, and Jones also happens to be a strong and experienced wrestler. Chael would get ragdolled.
8/14/12 11:11 PM
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Wait...so Chael, a guy with 12 losses, is saying a dude also with 12 losses (and more wins BTW) isn't worthy of him?  At least Dana continues to bend over for the least deserving guy ever.
8/14/12 11:15 PM
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epwar - Wait...so Chael, a guy with 12 losses, is saying a dude also with 12 losses (and more wins BTW) isn't worthy of him?  At least Dana continues to bend over for the least deserving guy ever.

remember a few days ago chael had that tweet about somebody not being worth his effort to cut to 185..there you have it. i think the bigger issue is that chael has just gotten too big for mw, and doesn't find the harsh cut worth it if he is not in the realm of the title picture

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