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8/23/12 5:43 PM
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How many of you watch workout videos on YouTube? Me and my bro just started one, it's called "Buff Dudes"

We tried to make it informative but also fast paced and funny. Take a look out our video and tell me what you think...

http://youtu.be/d5UbuRN6WZs
8/23/12 5:48 PM
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 very cool delivery, sir. Voted up. which software did you guys use for the editing if you don't mind my asking? I'm using Sony Vegas Pro and it's a bit annoying for this sort of thing (hope you don't say Final Cut) haha 
8/23/12 5:52 PM
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Hi Arthur! Thank you!

I am using Adobe Premiere Pro CS6. You can get a 30 day trial (which I am currently using) on their website. It looks like instead of buying it outright you can lease the program for 50 bucks a month. Kind of spendy but it might be worth it...I'm thinking about it myself now.

Premiere is very easy to edit with and there's lots of options.
8/23/12 6:07 PM
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"Buff Dudes" sounds like gay porn. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
8/23/12 6:30 PM
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 I'll be sure to download it..err obtain it legally :P 
8/23/12 6:37 PM
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Great delivery and presentation, but there's a couple technical innaccuracies.

Ex:

I would paraphrase "arm flexion, cos that's allthe bicep's gonna do" into "arm flexion is the primary biceps function" or something of that nature.

The biceps are tri-articulate; they also function to flex the shoulder (try doing gymastics planche or similar movement (horizontal pushups with your feet off the ground), and you'll see what I mean), and forearm supination.

Another question: What site did you buy your audio tracks from? I'm looking for a good source to produce my own videos.
8/23/12 7:15 PM
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@Alley - Hah! It's actually an acronym. It stands for Better Understanding of Food & Fitness. But yes, we realized it could be construed a couple different way.

@Hertswenip - Thanks for the info. regarding the inaccuracies. I'll make sure and either make a note in the vid or just do better research next time. ;-)

Regarding the audio - check out Incomptech. It's a site run by Kevin Macleod, he composes all the music and lets you use it for FREE, no strings attached. You just need to give him credit.
8/23/12 7:19 PM
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Nice! thanks i'll look into it.
8/23/12 8:01 PM
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nice video. your biceps are bigger than your head which is cool too
8/24/12 6:38 AM
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If you're going to be on camera put some duct tape over that gyno so it doesn't show through your shirt. Phone Post
8/24/12 9:30 AM
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Eggbert - If you're going to be on camera put some duct tape over that gyno so it doesn't show through your shirt. Phone Post
Lmao Phone Post
8/24/12 10:53 AM
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 HUDS,

Nice idea to have videos that are fun and informative. Here are some observations from me.

1. Do you know that you said every single exercise builds "PEAK"?
2. Do you know there is no specific exercise that will build "PEAK" in your biceps?
3. Do you know the shape of your biceps is 100% controlled by your genetics, not which exercise(s) you choose to use?
4. Do you know there is no exercise that builds STRENGTH vs SIZE vs PEAK etc?
5. In the big scheme of things, the biceps are small muscles. They require very little volume to stimulate. A few hard sets is all that is required to get the job done.

Your video seems fun and upbeat but ultimately seems to be sending the same old body building messages and myths.

Just my two cents.

Best of luck moving forward.

TAKU 
8/24/12 12:22 PM
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Taku, thanks for the heads up!
8/24/12 1:33 PM
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Good work man, or should I say, dude. Even though it's along the lines of bodybuilding, I thoroughly enjoyed the vids. Kinda like a humorous take on the Arnold's Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding.

Btw, Bad Dudes was a kick ass game! Spent lots of quarters on it at the arcade. Phone Post
8/24/12 2:12 PM
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6mildollarman,

Hell yeah! Love Bad Dudes - bigtime influence, as you can see. We're trying to throw together a Street Fighter 2 intro now for future vids.

Thanks for the feedback. We definitely want to keep it light-hearted and humorous but also throw some insight into it, as well.
8/24/12 9:51 PM
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Taku -  HUDS,

Nice idea to have videos that are fun and informative. Here are some observations from me.

1. Do you know that you said every single exercise builds "PEAK"?
2. Do you know there is no specific exercise that will build "PEAK" in your biceps?
3. Do you know the shape of your biceps is 100% controlled by your genetics, not which exercise(s) you choose to use?
4. Do you know there is no exercise that builds STRENGTH vs SIZE vs PEAK etc?
5. In the big scheme of things, the biceps are small muscles. They require very little volume to stimulate. A few hard sets is all that is required to get the job done.

Your video seems fun and upbeat but ultimately seems to be sending the same old body building messages and myths.

Just my two cents.

Best of luck moving forward.

TAKU 

IDK those biceps seem pretty fucking peak to me.
8/25/12 12:40 PM
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 athsportsnutrition,

What's your point? The shape of his biceps is determined by his Genes expression of the work he has done. 100 other people do the same exact routine, and get 100 varied looking arms. Thats the TRUTH.

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8/28/12 8:16 PM
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 so HUDS...

Are you going to re-do the vid so that people know that there is no such thing as an exercise that bulds peak vs one that does not?

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9/9/12 11:05 PM
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Taku -  HUDS,

Nice idea to have videos that are fun and informative. Here are some observations from me.

1. Do you know that you said every single exercise builds "PEAK"?
2. Do you know there is no specific exercise that will build "PEAK" in your biceps?
3. Do you know the shape of your biceps is 100% controlled by your genetics, not which exercise(s) you choose to use?
4. Do you know there is no exercise that builds STRENGTH vs SIZE vs PEAK etc?
5. In the big scheme of things, the biceps are small muscles. They require very little volume to stimulate. A few hard sets is all that is required to get the job done.

Your video seems fun and upbeat but ultimately seems to be sending the same old body building messages and myths.

Just my two cents.

Best of luck moving forward.

TAKU 

But aren't those bodybuilders that have arms that win major physique competitions doing these "bodybulding myth" exercises?

Would they be developing those kind of arms if they were just doing a few hard sets?

By the way i'm no bodybuilding fanboy, i'm more into Olympic lifting, just asking a practical question.
9/10/12 8:55 PM
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 Hey Cheesesteak,

Great question. They may or may not be. The mistake is thinking that they are bodybuilders because of how they train. They have the potential first...How they train alsmot does not matter.

Some bodybuilders do extreme high volume training, others quite low.

Bottom line, is that they will develope more noticeable "guns" no matter how they train, when they are re-disposed to do so.

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9/11/12 6:30 PM
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Taku - Here's a question. Not trying to be sarcastic, I'm genuinely interested.

If 'peak' as bodybuilders define it is going to be influenced by the thickness and shape of a muscle when its fully contracted, does that mean if the hypertrophy occurs through changing the thickness of the fibre in the middle of the length of the fibre, could that influence the shape of the muscle when contracted?

In other words if one exercise creates a different level of hypertrophy in the fibre vs another could that influence 'peak'?

Just thoughts......
9/11/12 6:49 PM
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LordSeano - Taku - Here's a question. Not trying to be sarcastic, I'm genuinely interested.

If 'peak' as bodybuilders define it is going to be influenced by the thickness and shape of a muscle when its fully contracted, does that mean if the hypertrophy occurs through changing the thickness of the fibre in the middle of the length of the fibre, could that influence the shape of the muscle when contracted?

In other words if one exercise creates a different level of hypertrophy in the fibre vs another could that influence 'peak'?

Just thoughts......

That's kind of what I was about to ask.

Taku,

Wouldn't utilizing different angles stimulate different fibers within the muscle?. The more these fibers are broken down and repaired, should result in different shaping of the muscle over a prolonged period of time. No?
9/11/12 6:55 PM
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 LS,

No worries...One can not cause change to occur in a specific part of the muscle by choosing a certain exercise. Muscle fibers work like a light switch (meaning they are either on or off). One can not dictate which fibers will fire in a preferred area. If my biceps muscles are firing, then they are all firing and will be recruited in an orderly fashion based on the load / intensity encountered throughout the duration of the set.

The ultimate shape is pre-determined by what the genetic expression allows.

Could This be the Solution for Skinny Biceps?

The arm on the right has very short muscle bellies and long tendons while the arm on the left is the opposite. No amount of training by the arm on the right will trigger the tendon attachment to change. This is what ultimately dictates the potential for size.

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Not to be a pecker head. But i just don't get why bodybuilders do all different exercises for 1 muscle if this is the case. Wouldn't they all just pick the most basic exercise for that muscle group and work that to volume? Are you saying that 50+ years of pro physique competitors have been wrong this whole time?
9/12/12 3:29 AM
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**** re: the whole muscle shaping thing, a few notes:

I def agree genetics play the biggest role in how you look, and that movements don't specialize in "bulk, peak, strength, cut" etc

But while you might not be able to improve your "peak" with a given exercise, this doesn't mean you can't alter shapes to some degree in muscles with different heads, fiber angles, or separate innervation.

In a muscle with more than one head, one can preferrentially recruit a certain region. Ie for example the biceps- the short head preferrentially supinates the forearm, while the long head is preferrentially recruited for elbow flexion(see Per Tesch) especially during glenohumeral backwards extension. So there is no reason why someone shouldn't be able to alter the lateral vs medial heads differently....

Same with pectoralis major (sternalcostal vs clavicular heads)...

then there's the muscles like the trapezius, with various fiber angles as described here http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/made_to_order_muscle


next topic... re: using more than one movement to train a muscle group, it's well established that the order of MU recruitment is fixed for a a given movement, regardless of the loading and speed used. However if the movement angles and positioning are altered, the MU order of recruitment changes as well.

Hence why certain MU's within a muscle have a low recruitment threshold for exercise X and high recruitment threshhold for exercise Y.

And this is why you need more than a single movement to fully develop a muscle group...

Poliquin wrote a great article about this in '88, in the Journal of Strength and conditioning, he referenced some very interesting german peer reviewed studies re: movement training speeds, MU recruitment, and undulating periodization models. Way ahead of his time really.

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