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8/14/13 8:26 PM
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I'm asking because in the past i spent a lot of time studying genetics and ancestry and was finding a lot of what you're posting confusing.

The R1b1b2 gene is common throughout Western Europe and doesn't have any particular connection with the Celts. So unless you know for a fact your dad was Spanish (you say apparently) then i wouldn't take it too much too heart.
8/15/13 3:22 PM
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HULC - I'm asking because in the past i spent a lot of time studying genetics and ancestry and was finding a lot of what you're posting confusing.

The R1b1b2 gene is common throughout Western Europe and doesn't have any particular connection with the Celts. So unless you know for a fact your dad was Spanish (you say apparently) then i wouldn't take it too much too heart.

His mother was from Galicia, and his father was from Zaragoza (where Segeda) was prior. 

 

No need to be hostile, I voted you up. We good now? 

8/15/13 3:23 PM
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MickColins -  I'll post some stuff on celtiberians later.Family member is sick so haven't had time to post Phone Post

Sorry man, I wish them the best. My little bros going through chemo right now, 

8/15/13 11:53 PM
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Lord Nitemare - 
HULC - I'm asking because in the past i spent a lot of time studying genetics and ancestry and was finding a lot of what you're posting confusing.

The R1b1b2 gene is common throughout Western Europe and doesn't have any particular connection with the Celts. So unless you know for a fact your dad was Spanish (you say apparently) then i wouldn't take it too much too heart.

His mother was from Galicia, and his father was from Zaragoza (where Segeda) was prior. 

 

No need to be hostile, I voted you up. We good now? 


Sorry mate wasn't trying to be hostile. :)
8/16/13 7:28 AM
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No worries

8/18/13 8:34 AM
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For Lars Schfintker, essay on the Mongol's intelligence apparatus

http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.iafie.org/resource/resmgr/2010_essays/jgrubbs.pdf

8/19/13 2:39 PM
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For all you Mongolophiles 

4/8/14 7:52 PM
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Bump

4/8/14 10:17 PM
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Reviving this thread 

4/8/14 11:20 PM
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4/9/14 1:02 AM
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^ yeah

4/9/14 10:15 AM
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4/9/14 3:58 PM
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The Spartans dominated for a couple of centuries. That's pretty impressive. The Sparta that lost to Thebes was less than 1000 peers- 8 to 10k was about their peak level and a majority of the soldiers on the field by the 300BCs were periokoi and trained helots. No doubt they are one of the greatest warrior people ever.

The Macedonians conquered most of the known world. They took warfare to a new level. Under Philip II or Alexander III, I think they were the greatest.

I respect the Samurai but they fought each other and I think were stuck too much in tradition, unlike Macedon.
4/9/14 4:20 PM
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"The Spartans dominated for a couple of centuries. That's pretty impressive. The Sparta that lost to Thebes was less than 1000 peers- 8 to 10k was about their peak level and a majority of the soldiers on the field by the 300BCs were periokoi and trained helots. No doubt they are one of the greatest warrior people ever."

Oh yeah, apparently the Spartans were actually beating the fuck out of the Thebans at Leuctra before their line broke. 

 

"The Macedonians conquered most of the known world. They took warfare to a new level. Under Philip II or Alexander III, I think they were the greatest."

Alexander FTW. That deserves a post in itself.

"I respect the Samurai but they fought each other and I think were stuck too much in tradition, unlike Macedon."

Agree, buncha shield hating homos....not that there's anything wrong with that, alexander liked man ass but he was a genius - the Samurai...not so much.

4/9/14 4:20 PM
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And VU

4/9/14 10:34 PM
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Anybody know of any good books pertaining to the Roman imperial legions?

4/10/14 12:38 AM
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bump your own thread much?
4/10/14 1:21 AM
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JkdSam - bump your own thread much?

 

Yeah, and shamelessly.

 

Afraid this thread died long ago unfortunately, I will mourn the loss of it.

 

4/10/14 5:13 AM
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krebs74 - Maori....fear the haka...

Fuck yeah, no doubt.

How in the fuck can you doubt a Warrior that's completely willing to eat you after he kills you? You can't...you just can't.

Definitely on the list...and the Haka is the shit, when it's done right.
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4/10/14 8:45 AM
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nothing to do with the greatest collective warriors, but fans of the show ROME will appreciate this... I came across Caesar’s account of the actual Pullo and Vorenus… this was during a battle against the Gauls, when the roman army, led by Cicero’s brother who served for Caesar in Gaul, were besieged:

"In the Legion were two very brave centurions named Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus, both of them nearly qualified for the first grade. They were always disputing who was the better soldier, and every year the competition for promotion set them quarreling.

When the fighting at the entrenchment was at its height, Pullo cried, "Why hesitate, Vorenus? What better opportunity do you want to prove your courage? Today shall decide between us." With these words, he advanced outside the fortification and rushed into the thickest place he could see in the enemies' line. This brought Vorenus, too, over the rampart, hastening after his rival for fear of what everyone would think if he lagged behind.

Pullo stopped a short way from the Gauls, hurled his spear, and transfixed one of them who was running forward from the ranks. the man fainted from his wounds, and his comrades covered him with their shields, at the same time showering missiles upon Pullo and preventing him from advancing further. His shield was pierced by a javelin, which stuck in his sword-belt; and as the blow knocked his scabbard out of place, he could not get his hand quickly to his sword when he tried to draw it, and was surrounded by the enemy while unable to defend himself.

His rival Vorenus ran up to rescue him in his distress, and all the Gauls immediately left Pullo, who they thought had been mortally wounded by the javelin, and turned upon Vorenus. Vorenus drew his sword and fighting hand-to-hand killed one of his assailants and drove the rest back a little; but pressing on too eagerly he stumbled down a steep slope and fell. It was now his turn to be surrounded but Pullo came to his aid; both of them escaped unhurt and after killing a number of the enemy returned to camp covered with glory.

Thus fortune played with them in their struggle for pre-eminence: bitter rivals though they were, each helped and saved the other, so that it could not be decided which was the more deserving of the prize of valour."

4/10/14 5:46 PM
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sawdusk - nothing to do with the greatest collective warriors, but fans of the show ROME will appreciate this... I came across Caesar’s account of the actual Pullo and Vorenus… this was during a battle against the Gauls, when the roman army, led by Cicero’s brother who served for Caesar in Gaul, were besieged:

"In the Legion were two very brave centurions named Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus, both of them nearly qualified for the first grade. They were always disputing who was the better soldier, and every year the competition for promotion set them quarreling.

When the fighting at the entrenchment was at its height, Pullo cried, "Why hesitate, Vorenus? What better opportunity do you want to prove your courage? Today shall decide between us." With these words, he advanced outside the fortification and rushed into the thickest place he could see in the enemies' line. This brought Vorenus, too, over the rampart, hastening after his rival for fear of what everyone would think if he lagged behind.

Pullo stopped a short way from the Gauls, hurled his spear, and transfixed one of them who was running forward from the ranks. the man fainted from his wounds, and his comrades covered him with their shields, at the same time showering missiles upon Pullo and preventing him from advancing further. His shield was pierced by a javelin, which stuck in his sword-belt; and as the blow knocked his scabbard out of place, he could not get his hand quickly to his sword when he tried to draw it, and was surrounded by the enemy while unable to defend himself.

His rival Vorenus ran up to rescue him in his distress, and all the Gauls immediately left Pullo, who they thought had been mortally wounded by the javelin, and turned upon Vorenus. Vorenus drew his sword and fighting hand-to-hand killed one of his assailants and drove the rest back a little; but pressing on too eagerly he stumbled down a steep slope and fell. It was now his turn to be surrounded but Pullo came to his aid; both of them escaped unhurt and after killing a number of the enemy returned to camp covered with glory.

Thus fortune played with them in their struggle for pre-eminence: bitter rivals though they were, each helped and saved the other, so that it could not be decided which was the more deserving of the prize of valour."


Awesome, and worth a VTFU.
4/10/14 6:02 PM
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4/11/14 5:17 PM
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13!!!

4/14/14 1:01 PM
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13!!!


No joke, put i got goosebumps reading that. Took me right back to watching Rome for the first time.
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