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10/6/13 2:50 AM
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No thanks, the fight card is atrocious, it's even worse than a We love MMA fight card and those are horrible as well.

I'll wait for the end of 2013 to decide on my year-end candidates but I have to say that this year was a bad year for German MMA.
10/6/13 5:51 PM
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Just came back from Roundhouse Berlin...
The event started really really slow...the announcer was the worst choice ever!
He's the German voice of JCVD and Robert D. Jr.
But hell he didn't knew what he was talking about. Such a joke.

The first fights were no surprises and didn't get anyone off the seats. But later...it went quite ok.

The female fight was pretty fast and the German girl Tanja Hoffmann just ran over Audrey Kerouche and stopped her after a few seconds.

The only German fighter to mention was Wesley Howard...
He got knocked the f*** out in the first.
He tried to kick his opponent...but his leg get caught and then a straight right followed.
And bam...he get hit hard and fell right to the ground to the back of his head. Just after maybe 10 seconds...

Because of the weak fightcard (even the tournament got canceled because one fighter jumped off) the whole event was looking like an amateur MMA show.

Maybe three fights were worth watching... Phone Post 3.0
10/6/13 6:39 PM
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10/6/13 9:02 PM
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Is DENNIS SIEVER the biggest MMA fighter name in Germany?

Who are the other top 7 ?

Would be cool if the Klitschko's could promote MMA events in Germany after they retire. I think I read they are big MMA fans and could be influential in getting the sport going in that country.
10/7/13 6:17 AM
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Dennis Siver is the best German MMA fighter and probably the most well-known too. Two problems with him: 1) he is grossly mismanaged, 2) he's not the best public speaker, he just wants to train and fight. Despite point 2), with a better management he could've become a big martial arts star with big sponsors. But his managers are horrible and know nothing about MMA.

Just an example: Peter Sobotta (0-3 UFC) has 6,400 Facebook fans compared to Siver's 1,820, Bellator signee Daniel Weichel has almost 10,600 fans. Siver is almost non-existant in social media. His managers don't try to push him in the media, Sobotta had numerous articles from all the big German magazines and newspapers when he fought in the UFC. Noone cares about Siver.
10/8/13 11:55 AM
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Andreas Kraniotakes, Germany's no. 1 heavyweight, is set to fight former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski at an Fight Nights event in Arlovski's backyard Belarusia in November.
10/13/13 5:29 PM
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Yesterday, The Ultimate Fighter 13 veteran Nordin Asrih got knocked out for the third time in a row (one of them in K-1). His opponent was a scrub from Eastern Europe. Asrih is done, if you ask me.
10/19/13 5:49 AM
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Former UFC fighter and absolutely improved German fighter Peter Sobotta is having a bad year.

After his fight in Poland got canceled (the whole event will not be held) he found a new place to fight...in Germany for a title.

I've interviewed him a few days ago and everything was great. He already made weight and was ready for his fight.

He has been in the Netherlands for training and felt huge pain...
On his way back home he stopped at a training partner and the pain went unbelievable.

Next stop hospital...
In an emergency surgery, parts of his appendix, colon, small intestine and abdominal wall has been removed.

I hope he will be back strong in 2014! Phone Post 3.0
10/20/13 5:35 PM
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At M-1 Challenge 42 in Russia, Germany's no. 2 middleweight Gregor Herb lost by points against local hero Andrei Semenov who received lots of help from the referee.
10/22/13 5:01 PM
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Abu Azaitar's management is getting desperate... moving his first loss from the "pro" column into the "amateur" column... again. Someone's trying to polish the record before contacting the UFC... again. How pathetic... UFC won't sign him anyway, he's a criminal with serious Salafi ties.
10/24/13 1:28 PM
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Kidding??? That's a weak move...
Damn how cheap...that's some big bullsh*t...but it's no surprise. Phone Post 3.0
11/1/13 6:00 AM
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Hendrik Oschmann and Sebastian Risch...two very famous German fighter, will finally face each other in February 2014 at We Love MMA after a bitter facebook rivalry (which is pretty rare in Germany).

I don't know how well known these two guys are outside of Germany...but I'm really looking forward to this fight. Phone Post 3.0
11/3/13 7:39 AM
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I really hope there's going to be a double knockout, both of them suck and are annoying as hell.
11/4/13 4:27 AM
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funkjoker - I really hope there's going to be a double knockout, both of them suck and are annoying as hell.
Especially Oschmann...
I don't know what's the problem with the German MMA fighters. Now that everyone is having a title, most of them are acting like celebrities...

Just a comparison...
I was doing interviews with many UFC fighters...most of them were really cool and saying, sure...here's my mobile...just call me.

And many many German fighters who has been cool before are answering now...please ask my manager he will take care of it.

Really? No thank you mate... Phone Post 3.0
11/4/13 4:58 AM
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Jiu Jitsu doesn't work - Hendrik Oschmann and Sebastian Risch...two very famous German fighter, will finally face each other in February 2014 at We Love MMA after a bitter facebook rivalry (which is pretty rare in Germany).

I don't know how well known these two guys are outside of Germany...but I'm really looking forward to this fight. Phone Post 3.0

I don't think they're very well known outside of Germany. Beach muscles, tats and tough guy looks.
11/4/13 11:57 AM
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Jiu Jitsu doesn't work - Hendrik Oschmann and Sebastian Risch...two very famous German fighter, will finally face each other in February 2014 at We Love MMA after a bitter facebook rivalry (which is pretty rare in Germany).

I don't know how well known these two guys are outside of Germany...but I'm really looking forward to this fight. Phone Post 3.0

I don't think they're very well known outside of Germany. Beach muscles, tats and tough guy looks.

They are not even well known inside of Germany... just amongst a couple of hardcore fans who have a very high pain tolerance. By the way, did you know that some German fighters actually BUY "fans" for their Facebook pages? Yep...
11/4/13 12:02 PM
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funkjoker - I really hope there's going to be a double knockout, both of them suck and are annoying as hell.
Especially Oschmann...
I don't know what's the problem with the German MMA fighters. Now that everyone is having a title, most of them are acting like celebrities...

Just a comparison...
I was doing interviews with many UFC fighters...most of them were really cool and saying, sure...here's my mobile...just call me.

And many many German fighters who has been cool before are answering now...please ask my manager he will take care of it.

Really? No thank you mate... Phone Post 3.0

Here's the problem with German MMA fighters: they are delusional and think they are better than the rest of the Germans just because they fight in a ring two times a year for 300 bucks. Currently there are maybe ten guys who could make a living off of MMA, the rest of them are weekend warriors who brag about being a "cage fighter" (you're not, you're fighting in a ring) and "soon in the UFC" (not even in your dreams).
11/4/13 12:41 PM
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Well said funkjoker...the only pro fighter up to date you can really have a good talk is Peter Sobotta...

He's down earth and pretty smart...

The rest is exactly as you have said... Phone Post 3.0
11/5/13 1:11 PM
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Yes, Peter Sobotta definitely belongs to the 10% legitimate good guys in the German MMA scene... Dennis Siver too. Both are really nice and down to earth. Although he's not the greatest fighter, Andreas Kraniotakes is very nice as well.
11/9/13 4:34 AM
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Jonas Billstein, no. 1 in Germany at light heavyweight, came back to middleweight at Bellator 107. He defeated Cortez Coleman by unanimous decision, completely dominated him in the grappling department. Too bad he chose to sign with Bellator because he would have been a good fit for the UFC's return to Germany.
11/11/13 12:00 PM
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Controversial German fighter Benjamin Brinsa (13-0) is back! Brinsa is set to fight Russian newcomer and Sambo world champion Marif Piraev (7-0) at "Fight Nights 14" in Moscow on December 7th. This is going to be Brinsa's welterweight debut.
11/24/13 11:02 AM
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Oooooh...yesterday was a baaaad day for german MMA!

A pretty well know MMA photographer "tried" to built up an own MMA event series. Hyping it day in day out, many people feared that this one will fail big time!!! Putting names on the ifghtcard like Nordin Asrih and promoting the event as a "high class" MMA event...

It was way worse...

Many professional fighters made weight, spent a long time in their fight camps, disclaimed many private things...traveled hundreds of miles...

And then...after switching the location three times...the promoter walked off and left fans, fighters and distributors 5 minutes before the first fight have had started.

Just a referee was coming into the locker rooms, telling the fighters, that the promoter left the place and had no money to pay the fighters...

MMA germany is running wild, because this behavior is far worse than anything else that happened in MMA germany the last years...

11/24/13 11:16 AM
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wow thats fucked

11/27/13 4:32 AM
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Top German Flyweight Rany Saadeh signed an exclusive multi fight deal with BAMMA last monday...the talented young guy will show us more of his skills on the big stage of the uK based promotion...

11/28/13 9:26 AM
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Big fight tomorrow at Fight Nights in Russia, Germany's no. 1 heavyweight Andreas Kraniotakes against former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski. Kraniotakes already lost to two former UFC heavyweight champions (Sylvia, Rodriguez), so maybe three time's the charm?

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