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10/11/12 8:17 AM
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Dave Herman doesn't seem to have any issue speaking his mind. Herman, who will face Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Saturday night at UFC 153: Silva vs. Bonnar, made sure to let everyone know how he feels about Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
"He's won 20 fights by submission - but we all know BJJ doesn't work," Herman said. "It's useless. Wrestling means you don't need to worry about jiu-jitsu. I've never lost by submission and I am not worried about it at all."

You really want to say this before you face Big Nog? Okay there boss.

http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/2012/1010/550939/ufc-153-silva-vs-bonnar/
10/11/12 8:28 AM
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I wonder how he feels about Karma and Irony?
10/11/12 8:31 AM
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He says it all the time... I guess you don't need to worry about BJJ when you keep getting your ass knocked out. Phone Post
10/11/12 8:39 AM
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Chimp Strength - He says it all the time... I guess you don't need to worry about BJJ when you keep getting your ass knocked out. Phone Post
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10/11/12 8:44 AM
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He's right. It's useless...

 

...unless you need it...

 

...and eventually you will.

 

10/11/12 8:47 AM
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his trolling is just bad

10/11/12 8:49 AM
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Ask him on Sunday morning if he thinks the same way Phone Post
10/11/12 9:10 AM
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jonno615 -  Ask him on Sunday morning if he thinks the same way Phone Post


Many feel he'll just KO Herman. I really want this to go to the ground now. I'll take the KO though.
10/11/12 9:14 AM
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Herman by Headkick KO.
10/11/12 9:20 AM
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It's a fucking joke u idiots!!!

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Why am I the one that's having to explain this to you????

Herman is a hilarious and good guy. He is 100% being ironic!!!! Phone Post
10/11/12 9:23 AM
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OMA (tm) - It's a fucking joke u idiots!!!

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Why am I the one that's having to explain this to you????

Herman is a hilarious and good guy. He is 100% being ironic!!!! Phone Post
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10/11/12 10:31 AM
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Lol Phone Post
10/11/12 10:40 AM
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OMA (tm) -  It's a fucking joke u idiots!!!

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Why am I the one that's having to explain this to you????

Herman is a hilarious and good guy. He is 100% being ironic!!!! Phone Post

This. I think this sujbect has been hashed out before, and someone spoke up about him training BJJ quite a bit?
10/11/12 11:28 AM
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You absolutely cannot fighting at UFC level unless you do some BJJ, it's just a requirement, period. He probably feels BJJ is overrated though, and that strong wrestling negates pure BJJ. That's his opinion.

His GOAL however, is to have people notice his name when he says that shit, get made, remember him, his face etc, so he can rake in some cash. UFC is about selling them PPVs. Don't wanna end up like Jim Miller etc. Entertaining fighter, but no hooplah about him, and I am sure his pay check reflects that.
10/11/12 11:46 AM
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I hope Herman knocks Nog out.
10/11/12 1:34 PM
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Dave told me himself he was joking the first time he said JiuJitsu doesnt work... "I had to say something... Just to piss them off..." he said...

He has a win by omoplata in bellator for fucks sake...

Dave is a funny fuckin guy if you learn to take what he says lightly...
10/11/12 5:49 PM
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Translation: "I know I have a weak chin and I keep my chin up high so I'm trying to get him to try to get me to the ground so he'll spend less time throwing his fists at me"

10/11/12 6:39 PM
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OMA (tm) -  It's a fucking joke u idiots!!!

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Why am I the one that's having to explain this to you????

Herman is a hilarious and good guy. He is 100% being ironic!!!! Phone Post

10/11/12 7:35 PM
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10/11/12 7:39 PM
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Spoken like a true can
10/11/12 11:24 PM
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Devil's advocate here... BJJ isn't the only kind of grappling. These techniques weren't all originated in Japan. It's been practiced in wrestling for as long as people have been competing in hand to hand combat sports. Lesnar was a JJ novice, but, the Gracies were very impressed by his technique against Frank.

The fact is that a dominant wrestler with weak grappling almost always defeats a dominant grappler who has weak wrestling.

What's the expression they use in JJ? Position first? It's wrestlers who have a massive advantage when it comes to dictating position.
10/11/12 11:27 PM
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Everyone is very lucky that wrestlers are so restricted by the rules. Put wrestling shoes on Chael, and he would take down the big HWs consistently. Allow them to knee downed opponents and there would be no talk about Chael having weak ground and pound.
10/11/12 11:36 PM
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Big nog by arm triangle. As useless as it may be. Phone Post
10/12/12 1:19 AM
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KingofBJJ - What a freaking moron. He sounds just like Sonnen did. MMA teaches BJJ. So this idiot is probably so stupid that he doesn't know that he was trained in BJJ and thought it was wrestling?

HAR! HAR! HAR!!!

MMA doesn't "teach BJJ". Sorry, you're confused. The same submission grappling techniques have been around for thousands of years before Brazil was even a country. BJJ is one of many disciplines that apply it. It's a popular one, that doesn't mean "MMA teaches BJJ".
10/12/12 1:19 AM
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Dave is a gatekeeper that's been pasted his last two fights. He's trying to generate heel heat like Chael. Phone Post

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