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11/7/12 1:06 AM
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Oh, so you weren't implying that the larger brains were linked to intelligence? You sure sounded like that's what you meant.

I guess you never studied history if you didn't know farmed maize was a staple of many native cultures.
11/7/12 1:06 AM
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Maybe you should stick to the stormfront forums.
11/7/12 1:15 AM
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HexRei - Oh, so you weren't implying that the larger brains were linked to intelligence? You sure sounded like that's what you meant.

I guess you never studied history if you didn't know farmed maize was a staple of many native cultures.
Mmmmm, maize. Speaking as an average white dude, I'm down with the corn. That's all I'll contribute here as 600 posts seems absolutely ridiculous considering I don't think Benson is the least bit racist. Especially considering he went to school here in Nebraska where there are a lot of white people.

So, um, chill the fuck out you contentious bastards. Phone Post
11/7/12 2:15 AM
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Zaph - 
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Zaph -  I like to take Louis CK's stance on this. As a white guy, you can't offend me with racist remarks, because being white is awesome. I don't mean that white people are awesome; I mean that being white is awesome. We have it made, and if time travel is ever developed, we can travel to any time in the past without fear of race-based persecution. Phone Post

Just listen to how you are conditioned to think. This is what I read:

I can't be offended if you stereotype me because I have no right to be offended. Let me just clarify, white people are not good. We have it easy, our lives are fantastic because we are white. If you say derogatory things about us, it is probably because we deserve it for being white. Historically, white people have not been oppressed like many other races, therefore we deserve to be the butt of jokes and ridicule now.
Then you completely misunderstood my post. Phone Post

Hey man, I'm sorry that I said that to you. It was wrong of me to put words in your mouth. I'm sorry that I apparently misread the intent of what you were trying to express.

fist bump?
11/7/12 2:22 AM
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You guys would be cheering Chael on and declaring him an "awesome troll" if he said this about a non-white opponent. "Liberal PC pussy", "stop being so sensitive" and "get over it" comments would permeate the thread.

Chael is an average looking white guy. It's just a matter of fact. It's certainly no less offensive than Sonnen's comments about Compton, Brazilian piglet savages, blow darts, gays, Rampage's AAVE and Anderson's skin color (he said in 2009 that kids probably get upset at Christmas because their parents bought Anderson toys for hem thinking they were Rampage figures).

Racism is only ever a real issue when it's the evil "reverse" kind that the liberal media tries to cover up, amirite?
11/7/12 2:27 AM
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LOL at you tossers living vicariously through Chael. You can dish it but can't take it just like your hero.
11/7/12 2:31 AM
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Lol :) Phone Post
11/7/12 3:27 AM
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Although I have nothing but respect for Benson as a fighter, that is a very dangerous gaff, and an inappropriate statement to make. Nevermind the fact that he so chose to make this un-called-for-statement in the most ignorant way possible; and with the most immature possible tone.

Benson Henderson is a young guy and a great prospect with a bright future as UFC Lightweight Champion. I have been a fan since his fight with Cerrone in the WEC. However, much like Jon Jones, I think Benson has a lot of growing-up to do. This is evident when he is posed with a Q&A scenario on camera- in which he faintly reminds me of Jones.

You can tell Benson is like Jones in the way that he's the type of guy who is better off letting his physical abilities shine through in the cage rather than being awkwardly interviewed on-the-spot by reporters, or Q&A sitdowns with broadcast journalists going awry when they answer a question awkwardly out of nervousness.

Chael shines when you give him a microphone, on the spot or sitdown-style. His dabbling in broadcast journalism has proven he most certainly has a knack for talking things up infront of the cameras.

Whereas Sonnen could be the interviewer or the interviewee and pull either off with the greatest of ease, on any given day; guys like Benson and Jones are better off quietly honing their skills in the Martial Arts than talking on cameran being asked their opinions on random topics. I think as fans we shouldn't put too much stock into what fighters responses are in these situations. I'm not "offended" by Bendo's comments; because common sense tells me he's a young kid infront of a microphone relaying his personal opinion in an unsuccessful and ultimately ignorant way. That's unfortunate for Benson, but he'll likely redeem himself once that cage door closes. Whereas many guys are comfortable on camera and will show you what their personality looks like, other guys are more quiet, laid back, and not as well-spoken as they are athletically talented.

I also think fighters need to stop hating on Sonnen. He found his niche and carved his spot in the limelight- why hate on the guy for doing what works for him? He may not be the best fighter, but he certainly finds ways to compensate for his shortcomings.

I say let Chael do his thing... and if he gets under your skin, call him out and beat him. Simple as that. With that being said, I don't think Bendo will be moving up to 205 anytime soon... and I don't think Chael will be putting much value in Benson's insults.

It's all just a bunch of stuff... Phone Post
11/7/12 4:30 AM
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Seems like a play on to the words "average" to me. Says he has a average top game, average fighter, white guy meaning that he's nothing special and is just like everyone else who is white, he's human. Bendo isn't racist he's a nice guy.

 

Also to the OP, when did he say "average white guy"?

11/7/12 10:43 AM
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The last thing the UFC needs is to turn Chael vs Jon into white vs black.

Statements like this are not exactly the most damning but they are condescending and in line with calling Larry Bird "slow footed" which was a euphemism for "honky".

Isiah Thomas said "If he (Bird) was black, he'd be just another good guy" which seemed to suggest that Bird wasn't a Hall of Fame player but just a regular player who happened to be pale.

Comments like that served to make Bird more popular among fans who saw a white guy excelling in a game so few were able to anymore.

It's no secret the Boston Celtics are STILL a white fan favorite based upon the years of McHale and Bird.

Sonnen is viewed as everything Henderson said by fans who have not mentioned his race.

Bringing race into the equation could feed the fanbase that already hates Jon Jones and could turn this into something it doesn't need to be at all.

Bad form for Benson but if this were Peyton Manning talking about RGIII it would be front page USA Today as if he were Rush Limbaugh. Phone Post
11/7/12 11:50 AM
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dus 10 - LOl@ all that bravdao....where you at

I went to bed because I have a job, loser. Your arguments were ridiculous. One minute brain size matters, the next it doesn't, you accuse me of equating correllation with causation, then do it yourself.


You are a fucking moron.
11/7/12 12:06 PM
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Zaph -  I like to take Louis CK's stance on this. As a white guy, you can't offend me with racist remarks, because being white is awesome. I don't mean that white people are awesome; I mean that being white is awesome. We have it made, and if time travel is ever developed, we can travel to any time in the past without fear of race-based persecution. Phone Post

Just listen to how you are conditioned to think. This is what I read:

I can't be offended if you stereotype me because I have no right to be offended. Let me just clarify, white people are not good. We have it easy, our lives are fantastic because we are white. If you say derogatory things about us, it is probably because we deserve it for being white. Historically, white people have not been oppressed like many other races, therefore we deserve to be the butt of jokes and ridicule now.
Then you completely misunderstood my post. Phone Post

Hey man, I'm sorry that I said that to you. It was wrong of me to put words in your mouth. I'm sorry that I apparently misread the intent of what you were trying to express.

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No worries. Peace. Phone Post
11/7/12 12:10 PM
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teepsfordays -  My god this socially acceptable racism. Phone Post

yep you cant be racist against white people, if chael called him an "average black guy" it would be front page news and he would be banned from fighting in the ufc ever again
Cos chael wasnt racist at all during the sonnen silva 2 build up right Phone Post
11/7/12 12:35 PM
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Benson is just an average Korean-Black guy :~
11/7/12 12:40 PM
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runtelldat - Benson is just an average Korean-Black guy :~

Disagree. He's a pretty above-average Korean Black Guy. Extremely impressive in the cage.
11/7/12 1:00 PM
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Take this for what it's worth, but sitting across from the table from him and listening to his tone, I didn't interpret his use of "white guy" as a pejorative term. I think what he was trying to say is more than on his skills alone, Chael is pretty average, but with his promotional abilities has become something far more successful. Benson was something in awe of him. A paraphrased quote left on the cutting room floor: Wouldn't it be great if Chael could ghostwrite for UFC fighters?

My two cents.

Steven Marrocco (the guy who conducted the interview)
11/7/12 1:32 PM
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ReturnofJaco - Take this for what it's worth, but sitting across from the table from him and listening to his tone, I didn't interpret his use of "white guy" as a pejorative term. I think what he was trying to say is more than on his skills alone, Chael is pretty average, but with his promotional abilities has become something far more successful. Benson was something in awe of him. A paraphrased quote left on the cutting room floor: Wouldn't it be great if Chael could ghostwrite for UFC fighters?

My two cents.

Steven Marrocco (the guy who conducted the interview)

FINALLY someone makes sense. Thanks, Steven

 

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I don't think he is racist, but he definitely has a case of foot in mouth syndrome, and this is not the first time. And forget this crap about Chael selling because he is white. Many of the highest grossing ppv's are with black guys. Rampage sells more than most, and honestly he has not had been a really good or even exciting fighter in a very long time. Why does he sell fights. If a white guy came out and gave a reasonable opinion about why Rampage sells, Im sure there would be an uproar and it would be twisted into racism.

TRy it yourself. Write a statement with 4 or 5 reasons why Rampage sells, and insert that he is a black guy in the middle of it. It will look racist to many, or at least give them a reason to cry to about racism.

11/7/12 1:35 PM
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Honestly, I can't imagine that most white people really think his comments, or he himself, are racist. I think they are just looking for a way to vent frustration about the way every comment they make about other races are easily twisted into racism.

11/7/12 1:43 PM
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Red Arrow - i will never pay for a card that has this racist pos bendo . the racist apologists in this thread should get there faced stomped
I want to apologize to black people everywhere for slavery. My ancestors never owned slaves, but that changes absolutely nothing. I'm sorry Phone Post
My other post seems to be deleted. So what's your opinion, u think black guys should be allowed to be racist due to past injustices? See if you can reply this time without throwing in a childish insult Phone Post
11/7/12 2:04 PM
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This, 'cept I'm Italian. Fuck acceptable racism. If the tables were turned this wouldn't stand at all. But you can't be racist against white people, huh. Phone Post
11/7/12 2:58 PM
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thanx for revealing himself as a racist, i'll never root for him again.....you damn well if this was said by a white guy about another race everyone would be up in arms........and i was at the 2nd fight against Edgar and he fucking lost
11/7/12 4:35 PM
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Benson is just an average afro-american/korean guy in my opinion. And he lost to Franke in the rematch.
11/7/12 4:52 PM
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i'm part korean so i thought ben's success was especially cool but yeah the more he talks it's very disappointing.  you know how much stereo typical shit u could say about his mom?  from marrying a GI that left her to running a convenience store (huddy up and buy!).  you'd think he'd be above that with all he's seen.  Was rooting for Nate anyway but now I want some 209 pimp slaps thrown in

 

11/7/12 4:59 PM
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After reading some of the comments on here, I would just like to say sort your heads out!! you over sensitive white, black, yellow, brown , green(just incase there's any Martians on the forum) blue, red, gay, Muslim, Jewish

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11/7/12 5:02 PM
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teepsfordays -  My god this socially acceptable racism. Phone Post

yep you cant be racist against white people, if chael called him an "average black guy" it would be front page news and he would be banned from fighting in the ufc ever again
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