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7/6/13 1:40 AM
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Side Note - I really want that Ali drawing that you see on the wall behind Anderson and the other guy on the still frame before you play the video

7/6/13 1:51 AM
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stillmatic - Roy's punch resistance is done. Anderson on the other hand rarely gets hit clean. Anderson also has speed and power that would translate over to boxing. This to me is what would make the fight interesting if it did happen, which I hope it doesn't.

Roy was my favorite fighter growing up. He's ruined his legacy to many fans, but people forget he was untouchable in his prime. He reigned for a decade and absolutely dominated his competition.


Anderson uses his angles well, turns his body and head and rolls with the shots well too. My question for that is the ring IQ of Roy. I'd imagine Roy shows Anderson alot of different looks to set up the shots he wants.

basically IMO i'm thinking Roy's IQ vs. Does his chin fail him?


I think a lot of that would depend on how Anderson fights. He's very inexperienced when it comes to boxing, so it's tough to say how he reacts in there. If he gives Roy too much respect, it could be a long night for him. Roy likes to fight at a slow pace, set traps, potshot and get out.

The blueprint to beat him these days is pretty simple, you just get him on the ropes and pound on him. Roy doesn't have the legs to get off the ropes anymore and all he can do is cover up. In his prime, he was impossible to pin there. He would lay on the ropes voluntarily and make his opponents miss badly when he got bored in a fight. He doesn't have those kind of reflexes anymore.
7/6/13 1:55 AM
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nice breakdowns gents

7/6/13 2:15 AM
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stillmatic - Roy's punch resistance is done. Anderson on the other hand rarely gets hit clean. Anderson also has speed and power that would translate over to boxing. This to me is what would make the fight interesting if it did happen, which I hope it doesn't.

Roy was my favorite fighter growing up. He's ruined his legacy to many fans, but people forget he was untouchable in his prime. He reigned for a decade and absolutely dominated his competition.


Anderson uses his angles well, turns his body and head and rolls with the shots well too. My question for that is the ring IQ of Roy. I'd imagine Roy shows Anderson alot of different looks to set up the shots he wants.

basically IMO i'm thinking Roy's IQ vs. Does his chin fail him?


I think a lot of that would depend on how Anderson fights. He's very inexperienced when it comes to boxing, so it's tough to say how he reacts in there. If he gives Roy too much respect, it could be a long night for him. Roy likes to fight at a slow pace, set traps, potshot and get out.

The blueprint to beat him these days is pretty simple, you just get him on the ropes and pound on him. Roy doesn't have the legs to get off the ropes anymore and all he can do is cover up. In his prime, he was impossible to pin there. He would lay on the ropes voluntarily and make his opponents miss badly when he got bored in a fight. He doesn't have those kind of reflexes anymore.

I'm with Bonds per usual, I like what you said here. I have to admit, I have only seen a couple of Roy's recent fights, I belive both the Lebedev bouts. After the Calzaghae loss I lost touch with him outside of when I got serious enjoyment out of the 'Captain Hook' shorts for the Lacy fight to rival the knickname 'Left Hook' Lacy.

That being said i'm useless on the conversation of the blueprint to beat Roy these days, but I'm with you on his prime. One of the things I remember specifically about when he met with Rashad Evans for some tips, stressing his theory of being backed up to the cage/ropes. He said something along the lines of 'You're still in control here, that's what alot of boxer's forget, you can still dictate the action from right here. Too many thinking they're in a situation with more danger than there really is and just want to get out before their opponent unloads'

7/6/13 2:18 AM
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What I was thinking about just now was what would have happened if Roy Jones and Mayweather had their reigns reversed. I think Roy being in his prime today could have been an even bigger star than Mayweather. Roy would actually put on a show in his fights, something Mayweather isn't all that concerned about. Mayweather dominating back in the 90's would have made him more like Pernell Whitaker. Everyone would have known he was really good, but it would have been hard for him to be a big star given his fighting style. We saw an example of that when nobody even showed up to watch from his hometown when he fought there.

One could only imagine how big of a star Oscar De La Hoya would have been in this age of social media.
7/6/13 2:19 AM
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Also Bonds/Thread

Speaking of RJJ, can you guys recall any boxers since him to gain not just a Nike sponsorship.....but specifically to the Jordan line? RJJ is the last guy I remember off the top of my head to have the Jordan warm ups/fights shorts/shoes/robe get up.

I noticed immediately that Golovkin had himself on some blue Jordan warm ups for his team coming into Foxwoods. If that goes full bore I would say that's quite the sponsorship and good for boxing.

7/6/13 2:23 AM
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stillmatic - What I was thinking about just now was what would have happened if Roy Jones and Mayweather had their reigns reversed. I think Roy being in his prime today could have been an even bigger star than Mayweather. Roy would actually put on a show in his fights, something Mayweather isn't all that concerned about. Mayweather dominating back in the 90's would have made him more like Pernell Whitaker. Everyone would have known he was really good, but it would have been hard for him to be a big star given his fighting style. We saw an example of that when nobody even showed up to watch from his hometown when he fought there.

One could only imagine how big of a star Oscar De La Hoya would have been in this age of social media.

Putting on a show. Man as far as that goes Roy's birthday fight of David Telesco at Radio City was quite the show. I remember the entrance with Method and Redman, and the clinic he put on Telesco that night.

Please don't blow my mind with the thought of the De La Hoya blow-up mixed with today's social media. Canelo times fuckin infinity IMO

7/6/13 2:26 AM
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Favorite RJJ show of recent Memory, Felix Trinidad

7/6/13 2:44 AM
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had that discussion today with my buddy...I think today with the social media etc...you have to have a personality to have followers..I think Floyd understands his style isn't for everyone, so he needs to be a villain to sell tickets. Roy was still under appreciated in his prime, didn't get the love he deserved.

someone like Billy Evangelista, helluva fighter, gets no love because he's quite. 

I believe Pacquiao is in line to sign with Jordan...this was a while ago. 

Subb, I believe that was Hopkins who met with Rashad and gave him that advice.

7/6/13 3:12 AM
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You may be right, I remember a video of Hopkins and Rashad in a locker room but that one as Discussing throwing the right hand without setting it up, may very well have included the other part too

Your thoughts on Golovkin and the Jordan team warm ups? Any info on this? I don't remember a boxer since RJJ having the Jordan specific nike line on him.

7/6/13 3:16 AM
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I think that's great, more recognition for Boxers in a big line like Jordan the better...yea, don;t really recall anyone coming out in full Jordan get up either.

7/6/13 3:28 AM
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The Jordan line as far as I know is a big seller in multiple countries, that's great for Gennady and boxing if they are chosing him as a promotion tool.

Full Jordan get up, the last time I saw it was again, Rjj v Dave Telesco (Robe, Shorts, Socks, Shoes). Gennady only had blue team Jordan warm ups on walking into Foxwoods. He did rock some nice baby blue Kazak nikes though, weren't the Jordan line

7/6/13 3:36 AM
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I never noticed Subb, but the more boxers the better...

lol at the Goodboy line

7/6/13 3:50 AM
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the next few weeks is full of International flavor..

Berto/Soto Karass at the end of the month

7/6/13 6:23 AM
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Random ? but wtf ever happened to Mike Jones? 

7/6/13 6:26 AM
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3:11 

Mayweather disses Canelo and Oscar LOL 

7/6/13 6:38 AM
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from April on Mike Jones

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By Rick Reeno

Welterweight contender Mike Jones (26-1, 19KOs) has decided to remain on sidelines after withdrawing from a planning return on June 1 at Bally's Event Center in Atlantic City.

Jones has been inactive since last June, when he was knocked out by Randal Bailey on the Manny Pacquiao-Timothy Bradley undercard at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

Later that year, Jones attempted to break his promotional contract with Russell Peltz, who handles the boxer with Top Rank.

Peltz communicates with Jones through the fighter's attorney, Eric Melzer of New Jersey-based Greenbaum, Rowe, Smith & Davis

Jones appeared to be focused on a ring return and was recently training in Las Vegas with Eddie Mustafa Muhammad.

On March 22, Jones agreed to face Ray Narh (25-2, 21KOs) on the previously mentioned June date, but then changed his mind on March 29th and refused to sign a contract. No reason was provided, but Jones has several years remaining on his current promotional agreement.
 
7/6/13 6:52 AM
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VTFU. Thats very odd, fighting for the WW title to just not fighting in over a year. It was his first loss, maybe it kinda fucked with him mentally. I remember Corrales on the verge of tears after losing to Floyd, his first loss. 

7/6/13 1:11 PM
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yea it really does mind fuck you...look what happened to Munoz, was in a deep depression after the Weidman fight. Really makes you wonder, can you compete with these guys in your division, what am I doing wrong...etc etc.

7/6/13 2:45 PM
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yea it really does mind fuck you...look what happened to Munoz, was in a deep depression after the Weidman fight. Really makes you wonder, can you compete with these guys in your division, what am I doing wrong...etc etc.

Not to mention he was beating Bailey fairly easily iirc. Got dropped and finished a round later. Phone Post 3.0
7/6/13 3:18 PM
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that's right, had to be depressing...slipped up once, late in the fight and it's over. Crazy, it's really a game of inches.

7/6/13 4:32 PM
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the rumor i've heard is the time off after a knockout loss can either kill or re-hunger a fighter mentally. Some guys benefit from being thrown right back in the deep water, others need the time off to repair and put things/their career in perspective.

training is one thing but i'd imagine looking that pro contract in the face is another, when you're name is on that bad boy.....you've officially got someone gunning for you, and you've got yourself an obligation as an entertainer for X amount of rounds. That'll boost the heartbeat alittle.

7/6/13 4:34 PM
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I was never big on Jones, I thought Soto Karass won their first fight.
7/6/13 6:09 PM
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Price lost again, heard it was an entertaining, sloppy fight...will post once it's up lol.

7/6/13 6:19 PM
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Yes it was a good fight. Price had Tony down and nearly out in the 2nd. Very back and forth

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