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They'd shatter the record his dad and Haugen set. Phone Post
9/5/13 10:57 PM
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Wilbon obviously doesn't follow the sport outside of Mayweather and Pacquiao. None of the major ESPN talking heads do. (Stephen A. Smith, Skip Bayless, Kornheiser...)
9/6/13 12:28 AM
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your boy Dan Rafael was going on one on twitter earlier lol

9/6/13 12:51 AM
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Fedoral Crime - There's no evidence either about Pacquaio doing PEDs but that still didn't stop Floyd's camp making accusations....Both camps were as bad as each other and it cost us the biggest fights of the last 25 years.


I can't agree that both camps were as bad as each other. Floyd has done rigorous, random drug testing with a credible agency for years at this point. And he has never come up positive.

There is no equivalency between him and Pacquiao when it comes to the drug issue.


Sorry I meant both camps were as bad as each other when it came to preventing the fight. Pacquiao by not doing the tests & then Floyd by demanding more money when he did agree to the tests.

We could go on about who's right & who's wrong all day but it's an old topic now at this stage & even if the fight was happening this year, it'll never have the hype & excitment it would of had a few years ago.

In regards to Floyd fighting in England, I think it's a great idea. He could sell out Wembely Stadium which has a capacity of about 90,000 easily. I just wish it wasn't against Khan! I don't think beating Devon Alexander qulaifies him to fight Floyd, especially after his last few performances.

9/6/13 12:56 AM
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your boy Dan Rafael was going on one on twitter earlier lol


What did he say?

9/6/13 1:03 AM
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@danrafaelespn 6h So let me get this straight: @PTI declares #boxing dead the day before Mayweather & Canelo grace two different covers of @ESPNMag? Oh, OK.

And, by the way, @PTI, it's not just about Floyd-Canelo. There are excellent fights basically every weekend through the rest of the year.                                                                                                                          

 Stevenson-Cloud, Chavez-Vera, Haye-Fury, Cotto-Rodriguez, Klit-Povetkin, Bradley-Marquez, Alvarado-Provodnikov, GGG-Stevens,                                                                                                                                   

Rocky Martinez-Mikey Garcia, Pacquiao-Rios, Froch-Groves, probably Alexander-Khan, Broner-Maidana, Kovalev will be back, etc...                                                                           

Remeber when some idiots declated Floyd-Oscar "the fight to save #boxing"? It didn't need saving then and doesn't need saving now.                                     

Mayweather-Canelo already broke ALL-TIME gate record. It's in 550 movie theaters, record sponsorship, etc.. But #boxing is dead, right @PTI?                                                                                       

9/6/13 1:04 AM
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Mayweather-Alvarez is breaking records all over the place and might generate $150 million. Yeah, #boxing is dead, right @PTI?                                                                                                                                         

 People who say #boxing is dead (I'm looking at you, @PTI) are just ignorant and/or lazy. Sport is in good health right now around the world.

9/6/13 2:58 AM
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some say the key to beating Mayweather is having a good jab, Barry Robinson breaks it down.
9/6/13 3:55 AM
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Barry_BondsMVP - some say the key to beating Mayweather is having a good jab, Barry Robinson breaks it down.
I have to admit that the 1st time I watched that fight I thought it was a draw but it was in a house with about 20 drunken louts so I didn't get to watch it properly.

The 2nd time I watched it I couldn't believe how many counters Floyd caught him with. It wasn't as if DLH was missing by miles either, he was throwing combos and missing headshots by mm.

Floyd is ridiculously good defensively. Unless Canelo can capitalize on Floyd making a mistake he's going to be chasing shadows all night. Phone Post 3.0
9/6/13 4:00 AM
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agreed, I had it 8-4 for Floyd, watched it about 3-4 times. The countering from Floyd broke Oscar down from the 7th on.

9/6/13 3:36 PM
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I have always disliked Oscar because he fought JCC (my all time favorite) twice.

I still remember when Floyd came into the ring wearing a sombrero and Mexico's colors Vs ODH. I couldn't figure out if I should hate Floyd or love him for it.

have you guys discussed the Trinidad vs ODH fight? I know there was a lot of classic fight talk way earlier in this legendary thread.
9/6/13 3:51 PM
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endochokedme - I have always disliked Oscar because he fought JCC (my all time favorite) twice.

I still remember when Floyd came into the ring wearing a sombrero and Mexico's colors Vs ODH. I couldn't figure out if I should hate Floyd or love him for it.

have you guys discussed the Trinidad vs ODH fight? I know there was a lot of classic fight talk way earlier in this legendary thread.

Floyd outright stole that schtick from his uncle Roger. Roger was doing that when he fought a series of bouts against Mexican fighters back in the 80's at the Felt Forum in Los Angeles. Called himself the "Mexican Killer" or something like that and came out with the sombrero and Mexican blanket on lol. The East LA crowd hated it and filled the seats every time hoping to see him lose.
9/6/13 6:10 PM
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smart business move lol, but Floyd has his mexican fans too...we can watch that De La Hoya/Trinidad fight again and discuss it. Gay/Subb always have fights on deck.

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Floyd is weighing at 152.5 right now

9/7/13 12:01 AM
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Canelo 157.4

9/7/13 12:07 AM
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Adamek-Jennings Crumbles - Money, HBO, Negotiations                                                                  

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9/7/13 12:08 AM
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Mayweather Focused on Keeping Active in 2014                                                                                                                                                      Article Link - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=69355#ixzz2eB0W0YTY
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By Jake Donovan

A lot has been made of Floyd Mayweather’s four-month turnaround between fights as he prepares for his September 14 showdown with Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. The unbeaten pound-for-pound king has been one fight and out every year since returning to the ring in 2009, having not returned to the ring this quick in more than ten years when he faced Victoriano Sosa four months after his rematch with Jose Luis Castillo.

“This camp went great. It was a good turnaround; I was able to stay sharp,” Mayweather says of the mere 19 weeks between ring appearances. “I’ve been getting good solid work and the young guys (in Mayweather Boxing Club gym) have been pushing me.”

Mayweather was two months removed from his 26th birthday at the time of his points win over Sosa. Ten years later, the 36-year old Mayweather turns back the clock for the sake of fighting on the two biggest dates of any given boxing calendar year. His win over Robert Guerrero came on Cinco de Mayo weekend, the fourth time Mayweather headlined an event with that particular holiday theme as the backdrop dating back to his split decision nod over Oscar de la Hoya in 2007.

For the third time in the past five years, Mayweather (44-0, 26KO) headlines a card on a September weekend celebrating Mexican Independence Day. Previous wins over Juan Manuel Marquez and Victor Ortiz came during this weekend in 2009 and 2011, respectively, though both fights marking his only ring appearance for that calendar year.

Completion of next weekend’s fight will mark the first time that Mayweather headlines on both holidays in the same calendar year. It’s yet another historical entry in the storied and eventual Hall of Fame career of the most talented and bankable fighter in the world today, but not something he intends to serve as a one-time entry.

“After this fight, I’ll fight next May and then September again,” Mayweather promises.

The Showtime pay-per-view headliner will take place at a 152 lb. catchweight limit.

9/7/13 12:09 AM
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50 Cent's Card on September 16th Comes Together, 9/16                                                                             

New York, NY - On September 16, Curtis “50 Cent” Jackson’s SMS Promotions and DiBella Entertainment (DBE) will host a special Monday night of boxing at the beautiful Resorts World Casino NYC in Jamaica, Queens.  Titled “Big Apple Boxing,” it will be the first card staged by both promoters at the recently built casino, located in the same area of Queens in which 50 Cent grew up and began building his business empire. The card will feature a number of top up-and-coming talented prospects from both SMS Promotions and DBE, including two future stars that the companies have just signed to exclusive co-promotion contracts.

The two main bouts will feature SMS-promoted Mark Davis (17-0, 5KO’s) looking to keep his undefeated record intact and continue climbing the lightweight world ratings, and DBE’s super bantamweight contender Luis “Orlandito” Del Valle (17-1, 12KO’s).  Both bouts are scheduled for eight rounds.

“I aim to deliver the most exciting fights possible. ‘Big Apple Boxing’ on September 16 will bring together extraordinary talent. The action will be intense,” stated 50 Cent.

“It is great to be working with 50 and SMS Promotions on this special Monday night of boxing and we’re looking forward to putting on a great card at Resorts World Casino,” said DiBella.

Additional bouts on the card, as well as opponents for both Davis and Del Valle, will be announced soon.  The card on September 16 will be the third consecutive card staged by the two promoters within the last three months.  The events have been a hot summer ticket for New York fight fans and celebs alike, attracting such actors as Rosie Perez, Susan Sarandon, Burt Young, Cuba Gooding Jr., Holt McCallany and Danny Aiello, as well as supermodel Adriana Lima and former New York Knick fan-favorite Larry Johnson among others.

The card is promoted by SMS Promotions and DiBella Entertainment and sponsored by SMS Audio.
 
9/7/13 12:13 AM
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Canelo 157.4

That beautiful red boof must weigh at least 5lbs lol!

Yeah even though he looks a bit gaunt, 5lbs shouldn't be that bad a week away from the weigh ins.

Did Oscar have much trouble cutting weight for his fight against Floyd?

He looked like a LHW that night. At least a SMW. Phone Post 3.0
9/7/13 12:14 AM
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Mayweather: My Personality Was Part of a Business Plan

 

by David P. Greisman

There have been times when Floyd Mayweather hasn’t merely worn the proverbial figurative “black hat,” but has embraced the role with gusto. He’s also been an antihero to some while being a villain to the rest, with Mayweather fans tuning in hoping to see him win and Mayweather haters tuning in to see him lose.

With that in mind — and with that past demeanor appearing to be rather toned down of late — Mayweather was asked on a Sept. 4 media conference call if he has mellowed.

“Everything was a business plan,” Mayweather said. “My business plan was to be very, very entertaining. Be very wild. Turn it on when it’s time to turn it on, turn it off when it’s time to turn it off. And that’s what I did. I built my fan base. I became a pay-per-view star. I became a household name. That was the ultimate goal. It was just a business plan that I had.

“It’s nothing fake,” he said. “You’ve just got to know when to turn it on and when to turn it off. That’s what I was talking about with the young fighter in my gym, Adrien Broner.”

That was in reference to what Mayweather has said about Broner in the past concerning the young three-division titleholder’s personality. Broner has modeled himself in part after the fighters he watched growing up — and has seen the success that Mayweather found after transitioning from “Pretty Boy Floyd” to “Money Mayweather” and going from an HBO star to a pay-per-view superstar.

“If I didn’t step up to the plate and speak my mind, be flashy and flamboyant, I probably wouldn’t be in the position that I’m in right now,” Mayweather said, speaking just 10 days before a bout with Canelo Alvarez that will bring him a guaranteed minimum paycheck of $41.5 million.
 
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Mayweather Has No Complaints on Referee or Judges

 

by David P. Greisman

Floyd Mayweather had barely learned who the referee would be for his Sept. 14 pay-per-view fight with Canelo Alvarez when he was asked his opinion of the assigned third man in the ring.

"Kenny Bayless is a great referee,” Mayweather said on a Sept. 4 media conference call held just hours after the Nevada State Athletic Commission picked officials for the upcoming show. “He’s fair. I think he’s going to let us fight. A lot of times you got refs who’s always breaking the action up. KB is one guy, he’s not for the bullshit. He likes to treat every fighter fair.”

Bayless has been the referee for three of Mayweather’s previous fights, according to BoxRec.com. That website shows Bayless as being the ref for his win over Shane Mosley in 2010, his win over Oscar De La Hoya in 2007, and in his pro debut victory in 1996 over Roberto Apodaca. He has not worked any of Alvarez’s fights.

The other candidates to be the third man in the ring for that bout were Robert Byrd, Jay Nady and Tony Weeks.

The judges, meanwhile, will be Dave Moretti and C.J. Ross of Nevada and Craig Metcalfe of Canada.

The other candidates to score that bout were Adalaide Byrd, Burt Clements, Richard Houck, Robert Hoyle, Patricia Morse-Jarman and Glenn Trowbridge of Nevada; Anek Hongtongkam of Thailand; and Jurgen Langos of Germany.

When asked whether he was comfortable with the judges who were selected, Mayweather said he was “comfortable with whatever.”

“My job is just to go out there and compete. It doesn’t matter who’s the judges. I just want to be treated fair. I feel like both fighters should be treated fair. And I feel like they chose the right judges. I feel like they chose the right referee. And now it’s time for me and Canelo to go out there and give you guys excitement.”

Moretti has been a judge for six Mayweather fights, including his 117-111 scorecard for Mayweather against Miguel Cotto in 2012, his 119-109 scorecard for Mayweather against Mosley, his 119-108 scorecard for Mayweather against Juan Manuel Marquez in 2009, and his 116-112 scorecard for Mayweather against Zab Judah in 2006, according to BoxRec.com. He also was a judge for Mayweather’s stoppage wins against Ricky Hatton in 2007 and Arturo Gatti in 2005. He has not worked any of Alvarez’s fights.

Ross is listed as being a judge for Mayweather’s sixth pro fight, a knockout of Bobby Giepert in 1996. She also had a 118-110 scorecard for Alvarez against Mosley in 2012. She’s been criticized by some boxing fans and observers for being one of the two judges to award Timothy Bradley a 115-113 victory over Manny Pacquiao last year.

Metcalfe is not listed as having worked a bout featuring either fighter. The most high-profile bout he judged was Andre Ward’s win over Carl Froch in December 2011. Metcalfe was one of two judges to have Ward winning 115-113, while the third saw it 118-110. The two other high-profile bouts on his résumé are Sergio Martinez’s fight with Kelly Pavlik and rematch with Paul Williams.

9/7/13 12:25 AM
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Any judge that had Bradley winning by 2 rounds, shouldn't be judging a pie eating contest never mind the biggest fight of the year. Phone Post 3.0
9/7/13 1:21 AM
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lol, that's the truth

9/7/13 5:42 AM
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Guys, what are your thoughts on Ricky Burns?

Is he being protected?

How do you think he fares against Gamboa/Abril etc?
9/7/13 9:58 AM
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They kept Burns away from Adrien Broner twice, in two different weight classes. I can't respect that.

He is tough and gritty though. Was getting beat in his last fight but hung in there and kept swinging; eventually the other guy quit due to injury but the truth is he looked exhausted.

I would say that he has a solid shot of beating the awkward Richar Abril. Wouldn't pick him to beat Gamboa but you never know which version of the Cuban is going to show up on any given night.

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