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11/11/13 12:46 PM
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what's the email to the name change on here?

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11/11/13 2:28 PM
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Tilla - How did Nonito look out there? Is he shot or not?
Like he genuinely didn't care. Phone Post

Safe to say that Rigo stole his soul?
I don't know... But maybe lost his fire.


Super lethargic. Phone Post

You figure they do Donaire/Rigo next anyway? HBO doesnt have anyone else for Rigo to fight and Donaire's the draw so probably right?

That HBO card was sick though, 3 competitive fights. Had buncha people at my house and no one card about the UFC card til the main event, but everyone was paying attention to the whole boxing card. These are all people who could only name you 5 boxers too haa
God I hope not.

Rigo has been very loud about not being exciting.

If the same doniare pre KO of Darchinyan shows up it is going to be a long boring night. Phone Post
11/11/13 4:30 PM
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chadk - Nonito is Visaya, so he likely had relatives at risk. Manny too. Difference is that Manny seems able to channel his chaos into the ring historically. If he wasn't thinking knockout before, pretty sure he is now. He knows the emotional boost a big win would be for his people. Aside from a hail Mary punch, I don't see Rios being a threat here. He went life and death with Alvarado and got outboxed by him in the rematch. Manny is faster, harder punching & better than Alvarado. He's getting brutalized. Phone Post

I cant say Ive followed Rios entire career but ya id say Rios gets hit way too much to beat Pacquiao.




At Brooklyn, N.Y. (Showtime): Paulie Malignaggi vs. Zab Judah, 12 rounds, welterweights; Devon Alexander vs. Shawn Porter, 12 rounds, for Alexander's IBF welterweight title; Erislandy Lara vs. Austin Trout, 12 rounds, for Lara's WBA interim junior middleweight title; Sakio Bika vs. Anthony Dirrell, 12 rounds, for Bika's WBC super middleweight title; Marcus Browne vs. TBA, 8 rounds, light heavyweights



At San Antonio (Showtime): Adrien Broner vs. Marcos Maidana, 12 rounds, for Broner's WBA welterweight title; Keith Thurman vs. Jesus Soto Karass, 12 rounds, for Thurman's WBA interim welterweight title; Leo Santa Cruz vs. Cesar Seda, 12 rounds, for Santa Cruz's WBC junior featherweight title; Beibut Shumenov vs. Tamas Kovacs, 12 rounds, for Shumenov's WBA light heavyweight title; Ricardo Alvarez vs. TBA, 10 rounds, junior welterweights


Might have to get showtime

Is Broner vs Maidana still a PPV?

Cards looks good with action fights line up -Thurman v Soto Karass and Santa Cruz

looking forward to this card
11/11/13 4:33 PM
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Broner vs Maidana will no longer be on PPV. It's free on Showtime.
11/11/13 6:12 PM
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I still think HBO is the Grand Poobah when it comes to Boxing in every aspect, even their 24-7's and I've said many times that I think Jim Lampley is simply the best and it's not even close. With that being said, Showtime has been on fire lately and these two cards coming up with Zab/Paulie and Broner/Maidana are fucking amazing! I've never been more exciting about boxing ever...
11/11/13 6:24 PM
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A rematch between Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Bryan Vera is being considered for March 1 either in Las Vegas “or one of the Texas towns,” Top Rank CEO Bob Arum told RingTV.com.

Vera, whose home state is Texas, lost a controversial 10-round unanimous decision to Chavez in Carson, Calif., in September. That bout took place at a 173-pound catchweight because Chavez was not able to make the originally contracted weights. The return bout will happen at the super middleweight limit of 168, according to Arum.

Arum met with Pelullo in Corpus Christi this past week in advance of Saturday's HBO-televised tripleheader featuring Nonito Donaire's stoppage of Vic Darchinyan , Mikey Garcia's knockout that dethroned WBO junior lightweight beltholder Roman "Rocky" Martinez, and Demetrius Andrade’s WBO 154-pound title winning split decision over Vanes Martirosyan.

The rematch was originally supposed to take place in February but Arum said the new date was chosen to avoid conflict with the Feb. 7-through- 23 Winter Olympics in Russia.

“That's what we're looking at, but we're not sure yet. It will either be in Las Vegas or one of the Texas towns,” said Arum. “They (HBO) don't want to go against the Winter Olympics.”

According to CompuBox, Vera had a 176-125 advantage in overall punches landed, as well as winning 109-98 in power shots compared to Chavez, who was awarded the decision by scores of 96-94, 97-93, and 98-92, by Carla Caiz, Marty Denkin and Gwen Adair, respectively.

Of a poll of 59 media members, 53 scored the bout in favor of Vera, with six draws. In its round-by-round,RingTV.com scored the fight for Vera, 97-93.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/181847-chavez-vera-ii-aimed-for-march-1-arum-likes-donaire-vs-walters

11/11/13 7:22 PM
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thanks Gay, Subb I just emailed them for the change.

11/11/13 8:09 PM
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Just curious, does everybody have Showtime and HBO? Don't see how you could live without even one with all the content. As thug life just said, HBO has all the "extras" fight game, 24-7, 2 days, undisputed truth, legendary nights, face/off, etc. Plus HBOgo which is amazing. Showtime puts on the better fights as of late IMO and shows their prelims on shoX, which HBO fails to do. Phone Post 3.0
11/11/13 8:13 PM
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I have HBO and stream or look up the Showtime fights. The HBO fall sched has been crazy and Showtime hasnt had many cards
11/11/13 8:16 PM
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I have all the channels I can get. Phone Post
11/11/13 9:22 PM
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I have both channels, I love them both.

11/11/13 9:41 PM
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I have both channels, I love them both.

Sub went easy on you.

Lose to me and you will be

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11/11/13 10:33 PM
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ha ha ha ha

11/11/13 11:59 PM
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I used to have only HBO but since Floyd switched channels and GBP got excommunicated I buy Showtime as well.

It's been well worth it. As a boxing fan you are pretty much set if you have both.
11/12/13 12:10 AM
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PoundforPound - I used to have only HBO but since Floyd switched channels and GBP got excommunicated I buy Showtime as well.

It's been well worth it. As a boxing fan you are pretty much set if you have both.
This. I've grown to love Shameless and Ray Donovan too, couldn't do without them. Phone Post 3.0
11/12/13 6:23 PM
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GayGuardMooseSaucy - Just curious, does everybody have Showtime and HBO? Don't see how you could live without even one with all the content. As thug life just said, HBO has all the "extras" fight game, 24-7, 2 days, undisputed truth, legendary nights, face/off, etc. Plus HBOgo which is amazing. Showtime puts on the better fights as of late IMO and shows their prelims on shoX, which HBO fails to do. Phone Post 3.0
I've got them both, fuck my cable bill is through the roof, HBO/showtime plus pretty much every UFC and big boxing PPV, gonna be living out of dumpsters soon hahaha, but whatever sometimes you gotta sacrifice for the greater good bother. Phone Post 3.0
11/12/13 6:41 PM
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i have them both as well, i watch hbo shows but i'm pretty much doing it for the fights

11/12/13 6:47 PM
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Has anyone seen this video of Danny "Swift" Garcia's Dad, Angel Garcia talking hella noise about HBO? It's fucking gold Brah!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e--NYy92w4c
11/12/13 9:01 PM
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11/12/13 9:15 PM
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Have them both. I originally got Showtime to watch Strikeforce more than anything else. They've been killing it the last couple years with boxing so it's worth the extra premium channels I had to get with it. Still prefer HBO though. Phone Post
11/12/13 10:08 PM
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Cliff Notes:

Fuck HBO, their commentary sucks.

Showtime made Andre Ward, HBO didn't want him in the beginning and now they're on his dick.

Garcia knocked Amir Khan out and still gets no respect.

GGG ain't shit, he can't speak English.

Angel Garcia isn't a racist

Zou Shiming isn't shit

Danny Garcia has been representing America and got spat on in the amateurs in other countries and gets no love in his own.

Pakistanis own all the gas stations, them and other foreigners don't fuck people of other races and make mixed babies.

Angel says we need a president like him Phone Post 3.0
11/12/13 10:12 PM
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Golden Boy Rules Out Mayweather For Trout-Lara Winner

 

by Jake Donovan

With any fight that takes place at 147 or 154 lb. these days, conversation is expected to quickly turn to what is in store for the winner. There are more lucrative options between these two weight classes than in all of the other divisions combined.

In order to get fighters like Austin Trout and Erislandy Lara to face each other, you would think there would exist the necessary advanced incentive for the winner. It’s a good thing neither of them need such massaging, because chances are there isn’t a major fight on that level in either fighter’s immediate future.

Select names were offered as possible future opponents for whomever comes out on top in their Dec. 7 showdown in Brooklyn. The biggest of them all, however, was immediately scratched from the list, despite the vacant belt at stake tied to said fighter.

“I don’t see Floyd Mayweather fighting at 154 (again) unless it’s really big,” Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer admitted in ruling out the sport’s best fighter and its biggest box office attraction as a realistic option for Trout or Lara. “It would have to be a fight for the undisputed middleweight or junior middleweight championship or something like that (to fight above 147).”

Mayweather became a unified champion at 154–and its recognized lineal world champion–with his win over Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez in September. The bout netted the unbeaten pound-for-pound king two more belts, including the super version of the “regular” belt on the line for Trout and Lara in their upcoming showdown.

The likely scenario is for Mayweather to dump his alphabet belts at 154 upon announcing his next opponent, leaving the December 7 winner as a recognized titlist according to one sanctioning body. From there, the onus is on Golden Boy to line up the next fight.

Schaefer suggested the likes of recently crowned 154 lb. titlist Carlos Molina or even—against whom Trout dropped a competitive but poorly scored decision this past April—as more viable choices. The opponent for Mayweather’s planned May ’14 ring return remains unknown, but Trout and Lara are losing about as much sleep over that as they are about fighting anyone other than each other.

“I’m not focused on Canelo, all of my focus is on Lara,” insists Trout (26-1, 14KO), who hasn’t fought since April, the inactive peroid due to his efforts to free himself from former promoter Greg Cohen. “Whether Canelo takes the fight with the winner, that’s great. I don’t think he will, but if he does, that’s great. My whole focus is on Lara and to see him on his way out.”

The feeling is mutual as far as Lara is concerned, although he naturally has a different take on how December 7 will play out.

“My job first is to beat Austin Trout and then I will proceed to take on all comers,” states Lara (18-1-2, 12KO), who survived two knockdowns to stop Alfredo Angulo in 10 rounds this past June. My focus right now is to beat up Trout and shut him up.”

The 154 lb. showdown between Trout and Lara will air live on Showtime, in supporting capacity to the 147 lb. all-Brooklyn battle between Zab Judah and Paul Malignaggi.

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Pacquiao and Drug Testing Four Years Later

 

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By Dennis "dSource" Guillermo

It was late into the fall season of 2009. Manny Pacquiao had just vanquished Miguel Cotto and was well on his way to unanimously winning the Fighter of the Year Award across the board after nabbing titles in the junior welterweight and welterweight divisions in sensational fashion.

Immediately after bludgeoning and stopping Cotto in 12 rounds, a contingent of Pacquiao fans at the MGM Arena were in unison in chants of “we want Floyd!”

Pacquiao’s star was never brighter, and the boxing world was buzzing behind the exploits of the Southeast Asian jackhammer of a slugger who was tearing through the lower weight classes since arriving in the US scene in 2001.

With his legacy and place in boxing history set in stone, there was only one true challenge left for Pacquiao: Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

At the time, people were hyping it as potentially the biggest fight in boxing history with revenues estimated to be around nine figures. It was the perfect stylistic contrast between two of the greatest and most popular fighters in history, and the world couldn’t wait to see it.

But after reports that both men had agreed to fight each other, an unexpected wrench was thrown in the negotiations in the form of added drug testing requested by the Mayweather camp amidst accusations and questions regarding the legitimacy of Pacquiao’s victories after being unfairly linked to performance enhancing drugs without proof.

The issue spiraled out of control as lawsuits came flying immediately after, with Pacquiao crying foul over his name being dragged to the dirt, and Mayweather insisting on his suspicions.

The Pacquiao camp chose not to budge on Mayweather’s request for extra drug tests, and both fighters went about their careers separately as the public was forced to simply hope and wait for the two fighters to somehow come into terms and fight each other.
The multi-million dollar mega fight of a lifetime that the entire world was clamoring for could not be made because of a few ounces of blood and some extra random testing. That's what happens when ignorance prevails.

Fast-forward to today - almost four years after - Mayweather and Pacquiao have still yet to throw a single punch at each other, and the interest for what was once being hailed as “the fight of the century” is all but gone.

Mayweather is back on top as the world’s highest paid athlete and boxing’s biggest draw, while Pacquiao is reeling from a devastating knockout loss to his nemesis, Juan Manuel Marquez, and is fighting Brandon Rios in China in a couple of weeks to prove that he still has more fights left in his tank.

Ironically, the 34-year-old Philippine congressman has enrolled himself into extra drug testing under the supervision of VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Agency) for his fight against Rios.

"Yes, I was tested twice, so there is no problem," Pacquiao told the press two weeks ago in a media conference call, when asked about the VADA testing.

It's of note that before his loss last year to Marquez, Pacquiao had already publicly expressed his willingness to relent on his stance regarding extra drug testing to make the Mayweather fight happen.  Unfortunately, however, financials and the ongoing feud between the fighters' promoters added to the foil.

One positive that did come out from the Pacquiao-Mayweather saga is the amount of publicity that went behind Mayweather’s initial accusations against Pacquiao, which forced boxing to take a closer look into its drug testing practices, while concerned fans educated themselves on the specifics and nuisances of performance enhancing drugs and testing.

 

 
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One of the prominent figures that came to surface during this period of inquisition is sports scientist Victor Conte. Conte, the infamous BALCO founder involved in the past decade’s doping scandal centered on baseball superstars like Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi, has become one of the most vocal anti-doping advocates in boxing.

Conte, who currently helps oversee the nutrition and scientific training of a long list of boxers such as Amir Khan, Edwin Rodriguez, Shawn Porter, Bruno Escalante, Marlen Esparza, Brandon Gonzales, Stan Martyniouk, Demetrious Andrade and Fernando Guerrero, and was critical of Pacquiao’s reluctance to adhere to random drug testing in the past, was pleased that the Filipino boxing icon finally came around and took the initiative together with Rios to ensure a clean fight, and take a step in the right direction for the sport.
“I'm really glad to see Pacquiao and Rios doing random VADA testing before their upcoming fight. It is important for the health and safety of the boxers, and it is also important for the fans of boxing to know that they both have been doing stringent testing,” Conte told this scribe in an interview.

“Regardless of who wins their fight, both Pacqiao and Rios should be applauded for doing their part to promote clean combat sport.”
Pacquiao had no complaints about weakening after giving out blood like he had said in the past, and reports of a glowing camp in his hometown of General Santos City has his fans excited once again.

Maybe an impressive win against Rios will finally lay to rest all the suspicions about Pacquiao being a dirty fighter. Maybe taking the VADA tests can also open doors to a future fight with Mayweather - then again, maybe not. But as far as Conte is concerned, taking the VADA tests definitely helps wipe suspicions, and continuing to do so while winning will only provide further vindication – regardless if the Mayweather fight ever happens or not.
“It would be foolish for Pacquiao or Rios to attempt to circumvent the VADA testing program,” Conte stated, and added, “Drug testing will never be completely foolproof. However, I believe that an effective random testing program for a period of time before a fight can serve as a deterrent and possibly effect the outcome of the contest.”

Interestingly enough, Pacquiao testing clean and taking these extra VADA tests haven’t gotten the same publicity as those of the baseless accusations he got about taking performance enhancing drugs years ago. The general public - whether it’s because his popularity has gone down after his loss to Marquez or simply because they never truly cared – seems indifferent as well.
Golden Boy Promotions, who backed Mayweather in his claims against Pacquiao about the issue, have dropped VADA testing themselves after a few of their cards were cancelled because of fighters like Andre Berto and Lamont Peterson failing their drug tests.

Conte likes the trend of top-level fighters like Pacquiao, Rios, Mayweather, and as well as others like Timothy Bradley, starting to adhere to extra testing before their fights, but ultimately wishes they could enroll in 24/7/365 (year-round random drug testing) to further ensure a clean sport.
With all the strength and conditioning coaches popping out of nowhere like wild mushrooms, stringent random drug testing has definitely become a necessity for combat sports where lives - more than just money, pride and wins - are at stake.

Perhaps Pacquiao vs. Mayweather wasn’t really the “fight of the century” after all. It was simply the preliminary bout to the main event, which is boxing’s war on doping.

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Steve Kim ‏@stevemaxboxing 1m
Bob Arum says that V. Lomachneko has requested that his fight with Salido with be backed up a month, with some hand issues #boxing

Steve Kim ‏@stevemaxboxing 1m
So expect the Jan 25th date at the Theater at MSG to feature Mikey Garcia and maybe Khabib Allakrverdiev(sp) according to Arum #boxing

Steve Kim ‏@stevemaxboxing 53s
And Nonito Donaire, will not return to the ring till May, because he might have an injured orbital bone, per Arum #boxing

Steve Kim ‏@stevemaxboxing 11s
And has been reported by other outlets, look for Chavez-Vera II to take place in March, HBO doesn't want to go vs Winter Olympics #boxing

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