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4/20/14 11:29 AM
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KnockoutThoughts - Shawn Porter and Pacquiao are my 2 favorite matchups to beat Mayweather. To beat Mayweather you can't play chess with him, you have to flip the table over and be aggressive. Take away his ability to think. Essentials required for this task are speed, handspeed, power, and gas tank. Pac and Porter both have that. Floyd will avoid Porter like he avoids Pac guaranteed. Phone Post 3.0

Mayweather clowns both of these guys.

4/20/14 2:19 PM
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I hate B-Hop.

 

 

That being said.... there is no one fighting right now that beats PBF.

 

I know everyone hates him... it just isn't going to happen.  Don't care how big of a douche he is.

4/20/14 2:32 PM
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GGG would beat Mayweather at 154. He has the perfect style to break down Mayweather. Incredible power, excellent Jab, great body puncher, great balance and is always in position to punch.

That fight will never happen, but it would be great to watch.
4/20/14 2:41 PM
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GGG needs to beat someone first lol. I enjoy watching the guy fight but people are riding his coat tails and he hasn't beat a top 3 MW.

GGG is very dangerous, but he has glaring holes in his defense, and lack of speed that Floyd would pick a part.
4/20/14 2:42 PM
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4/20/14 2:43 PM
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stillmatic - GGG would beat Mayweather at 154. He has the perfect style to break down Mayweather. Incredible power, excellent Jab, great body puncher, great balance and is always in position to punch.

That fight will never happen, but it would be great to watch.

I love GGG.

 

 

Don't think he lands on PBF.

 

 

Canelo sure couldnt... 

4/20/14 2:57 PM
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Barry_BondsMVP - GGG needs to beat someone first lol. I enjoy watching the guy fight but people are riding his coat tails and he hasn't beat a top 3 MW.

GGG is very dangerous, but he has glaring holes in his defense, and lack of speed that Floyd would pick a part.

I wouldn't say he has glaring holes in his defense. He rarely gets hit clean as he rolls with most shots he does get hit with. He's also an offensive pressure fighter, so naturally he puts himself in harm's way more than someone who is thinking defense first.

I don't think he's slow by any means either. Castillo and Cotto weren't exactly known for speed either and they were able to get to Mayweather.

GGG does need some big fights. Chavez Jr would be a good first step and I think GGG dominates him.
4/20/14 3:03 PM
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stillmatic - GGG would beat Mayweather at 154. He has the perfect style to break down Mayweather. Incredible power, excellent Jab, great body puncher, great balance and is always in position to punch.

That fight will never happen, but it would be great to watch.

I love GGG.

 

 

Don't think he lands on PBF.

 

 

Canelo sure couldnt... 


I think GGG does everything better than Canelo. I don't think Canelo fought the right fight either. He needed to use his size, hit Mayweather everywhere and wear him down. Boxing at a distance with Mayweather is a battle nobody can win.

The difference is GGG isn't just a head hunter. He's not someone that just looks for 1 shot. He throws combinations and goes to the body very well. GGG also hits incredibly hard, so even if his shots get blocked on the arms, Mayweather would still feel the effects of his punches, especially later in the fight.
4/20/14 3:27 PM
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lol Phone Post 3.0
4/20/14 6:49 PM
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So now Mayweather is ducking Shawn Porter? Lol. Ok.

GGG is fighting at 168 in his next fight. Yeah, let's throw Floyd in against a super middleweight. He's sure to lose then. *shakes head*

Anyway, I thought Hopkins looked very good for a 50 year old. If he fights like that against Adonis he might actually have a chance at winning and unifying 3 belts.

Porter appears to be fighting Kell Brook next. I'd love to see the winner of that against Keith Thurman...whoever comes out on top at the end would be a deserving and dangerous opponent for Floyd.
4/21/14 4:04 AM
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Interesting Porter/Brook, Brook had some issues in the first Carson Jones fight, he was lucky to survive that. He gets hit with the over hand right a lot.
4/21/14 4:10 AM
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Barry_BondsMVP - GGG needs to beat someone first lol. I enjoy watching the guy fight but people are riding his coat tails and he hasn't beat a top 3 MW.

GGG is very dangerous, but he has glaring holes in his defense, and lack of speed that Floyd would pick a part.

I wouldn't say he has glaring holes in his defense. He rarely gets hit clean as he rolls with most shots he does get hit with. He's also an offensive pressure fighter, so naturally he puts himself in harm's way more than someone who is thinking defense first.

I don't think he's slow by any means either. Castillo and Cotto weren't exactly known for speed either and they were able to get to Mayweather.

GGG does need some big fights. Chavez Jr would be a good first step and I think GGG dominates him.

neither of them landed anything of significance. JCC just tried to bully someone that was fighting with one arm that night. Cotto won 2 rounds at best.

Now Floyd would be dumb to fight GGG like he did with Cotto, he wont sit in the pocket. He'll just move and pick his shots. GGG will follow him and get picked apart imo.

I would say GGG is his biggest threat from 140-154. We both agree he needs to step up, It's really not fair to compare him what he does with C/D level fighters and think he would be successful against one of the best skilled boxers ever.

But I understand, there's excitement with GGG because he knocks people out, the casual fans love that. GGG is skilled, has a great amateur pedigree, right now I personally feel he isn't on Floyd or Ward's level.
4/21/14 4:10 AM
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I meant JLC sorry.
4/21/14 8:36 AM
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GGG is heading in the wrong direction weigh-wise to fight Mayweather. I don't think that fight would prove anything either way--GGG is definitely much bigger and stronger and Mayweather is definitely a much better fighter. Sure there is a size limitation to what he can do, but that is not what I want to see when someone challenges him--he would lose to Robert Helenius if you just want to give him a fight to lose.

I still think that Khan matches up well with Mayweather but Khan matches up so poorly with some other top 10 (top 30?) fighters that I don't know if he can go on a run that will "earn" him the shot.
4/21/14 8:58 AM
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Missed the fights. But happy easter all. And remember, I believe the children are our future... I will leave the rest to my band...
4/21/14 10:36 AM
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I feel like Porter could maybe, just maybe, beat Floyd in 1-2 years. I have never seen anyone bulldoze Paulie like that before.
4/21/14 10:58 AM
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Paulie has slowed down and has zero punching power. He couldn't bust a grape with a running start. Floyd's not a big puncher but he hits hard enough to discourage the bum rush. Phone Post 3.0
4/21/14 11:06 AM
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Tomato Can - I feel like Porter could maybe, just maybe, beat Floyd in 1-2 years. I have never seen anyone bulldoze Paulie like that before.

Paulie has NO power... If Broner would have taken the Porter approach we would have seen the same result.

 

Porter just didn't fuck around.

4/21/14 11:20 AM
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Not sure I buy that. Broner and Porter aren't very similar. Porter will come forward and aggressively rough you up. Broner thinks he's Floyd Jr. and has zero workrate.
4/21/14 11:42 AM
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KJ! - I personally think Mayweather is going to knock out Maidana it's been a while since we've seen PBF knock someone out.

You're a fucking idiot if you think Broner was or is even close to being Mayweather. This is an easy fight for Floyd unfortunately PBF vs Pacman is too late. It sucks it never happened. Phone Post 3.0

Lol. No chance does he knock Marcos out.

Other than that weird KO of Ortiz, he hasn't KO'ed anyone since 2007 when he fought Ricky Hatton.

Face it - Dude couldn't knock the skin off a pudding.
4/21/14 3:33 PM
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PoundforPound - So now Mayweather is ducking Shawn Porter? Lol. Ok.

GGG is fighting at 168 in his next fight. Yeah, let's throw Floyd in against a super middleweight. He's sure to lose then. *shakes head*

Anyway, I thought Hopkins looked very good for a 50 year old. If he fights like that against Adonis he might actually have a chance at winning and unifying 3 belts.

Porter appears to be fighting Kell Brook next. I'd love to see the winner of that against Keith Thurman...whoever comes out on top at the end would be a deserving and dangerous opponent for Floyd.

The fight would happen at 154. GGG having to cut that extra weight would make it a more fair fight. It's all hypothetical anyways, I highly doubt GGG is on Floyd's radar at all.
4/21/14 3:35 PM
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KJ! - I personally think Mayweather is going to knock out Maidana it's been a while since we've seen PBF knock someone out.

You're a fucking idiot if you think Broner was or is even close to being Mayweather. This is an easy fight for Floyd unfortunately PBF vs Pacman is too late. It sucks it never happened. Phone Post 3.0

Lol. No chance does he knock Marcos out.

Other than that weird KO of Ortiz, he hasn't KO'ed anyone since 2007 when he fought Ricky Hatton.

Face it - Dude couldn't knock the skin off a pudding.
I feel like he could ko Danny Garcia, although I bet the farm on Matthysse knocking his head into one of the Watson twins lap lol.

No way Floyd kos Maidana, It's comical hearing Floyd trying to talk him up lol. Phone Post 3.0
4/21/14 3:43 PM
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Barry_BondsMVP - GGG needs to beat someone first lol. I enjoy watching the guy fight but people are riding his coat tails and he hasn't beat a top 3 MW.

GGG is very dangerous, but he has glaring holes in his defense, and lack of speed that Floyd would pick a part.

I wouldn't say he has glaring holes in his defense. He rarely gets hit clean as he rolls with most shots he does get hit with. He's also an offensive pressure fighter, so naturally he puts himself in harm's way more than someone who is thinking defense first.

I don't think he's slow by any means either. Castillo and Cotto weren't exactly known for speed either and they were able to get to Mayweather.

GGG does need some big fights. Chavez Jr would be a good first step and I think GGG dominates him.

neither of them landed anything of significance. JCC just tried to bully someone that was fighting with one arm that night. Cotto won 2 rounds at best.

Now Floyd would be dumb to fight GGG like he did with Cotto, he wont sit in the pocket. He'll just move and pick his shots. GGG will follow him and get picked apart imo.

I would say GGG is his biggest threat from 140-154. We both agree he needs to step up, It's really not fair to compare him what he does with C/D level fighters and think he would be successful against one of the best skilled boxers ever.

But I understand, there's excitement with GGG because he knocks people out, the casual fans love that. GGG is skilled, has a great amateur pedigree, right now I personally feel he isn't on Floyd or Ward's level.

I thought Castillo won the first fight and most people did as well. I do think it was closer upon watching it again though. Cotto was able to do some damage, Floyd was busted up a bit in that fight.

He can only beat whoever gets put in front of him and he's destroying the people they put in front of him. He's trying to get the big fights, but nobody is stepping up.

The Ward fight will happen at some point. I don't think it's fair to ask him to fight Ward at 168 with no warm-up fight at that weight.


4/21/14 3:50 PM
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thefightingsheep - GGG is heading in the wrong direction weigh-wise to fight Mayweather. I don't think that fight would prove anything either way--GGG is definitely much bigger and stronger and Mayweather is definitely a much better fighter. Sure there is a size limitation to what he can do, but that is not what I want to see when someone challenges him--he would lose to Robert Helenius if you just want to give him a fight to lose.

I still think that Khan matches up well with Mayweather but Khan matches up so poorly with some other top 10 (top 30?) fighters that I don't know if he can go on a run that will "earn" him the shot.

It's a fair fight at 154. GGG has to come down to a weight he's never fought at against Mayweather who has fought comfortably at 154 several times.

Khan doesn't really match up well with Mayweather in terms of having a chance to win. He might look good in spurts, but there's no chance he wins. His defense is just awful and he gets tagged by everyone he fights. For Mawyeather, it would be like target practice. I like the fight only because it should be entertaining while it lasts and Mayweather has a very good chance of stopping him.

4/21/14 4:02 PM
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actually GGG's trainer said a Lara fight wouldn't make sense because he doesn't draw lol, GGG isn't selling out arenas right now. HBO also turned down a potential GGG fight, forget which opponent was offered.

yea the jab busted Floyd up some against Cotto. Floyd is a much better fight than his first JLC encounter, he made the best JMW in the world look amateurish.

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