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3/30/13 7:32 PM
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Ali
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Freakin' Gilligan's Island, now...
Thanks for the confirmation. I thought so the first time, but then you brought it up again. Forgive my confusion.
3/30/13 7:57 PM
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Ali - I thought the question about what basis for giving such primacy to the KJV was a good question.

But if you don't want to go there, that's ok -- I don't want to chase around changing of the subject, or reading repeats of what's already been said on this thread either.

Jesus Christ, the living Word of God (John 1:1, 14) convicts all deniers of Jesus Christ as lying antichrists:

Who is A LIAR but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is ANTICHRIST, that denieth the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22)

You'll be able to give Jesus, your Creator, a piece of your mind when you stand before Christ at judgment (2 Cor. 5:10, Eccl. 12:14)

God says there's no truth in deniers of Christ (John 8:44) as evidenced by your dishonest statement that I did not already prove, ad nauseam, my contention that the KJV is the perfect Word of God.

The fact that you don't like that Jesus Christ created you, and has the right to make the rules to govern and judge you, does not change the fact that it's so.

It just means you don't like it:

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20)

The question of why deciding on the primacy of a particular translation is not answered by quoting from that translation. (Or quoting from any other, either).
It's not civil conversation to quote and then answer something completely unrelated. Knock it off.

Ali,

You queried in another of your posts whether I called you an antichrist…I didn't, but God, the Word convicts you as one (1 John 2:22)

It's real simple Ali, God preserved God's Word or there is no God.

Whatever happened as far as changes and edits was ultimately the will of God:

I the LORD do all these things. (Isa. 45:7)

This single truth addresses the entirety of zealot66's 'primacy' babblings.

The KJV is translated from the Textus Receptus and virtually identical to the Dead Sea Scrolls…and it's perfect.

If you contend that the KJV is not God's Word, then where is God? God made himself readily knowable or there is no God...and it's patently obvious that there is.

Naturally, It has devolved into romper room in here to camouflage the embarrassment of the lost.

Scoffers, there is a judgment coming for wicked deniers of the crucifixion of the son of God as the atoning sacrifice for your sins.

thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. (Ezek. 33:7)

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men (2 Cor. 5:11)
3/30/13 8:15 PM
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Ali - 
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Ali - I thought the question about what basis for giving such primacy to the KJV was a good question.

But if you don't want to go there, that's ok -- I don't want to chase around changing of the subject, or reading repeats of what's already been said on this thread either.

Jesus Christ, the living Word of God (John 1:1, 14) convicts all deniers of Jesus Christ as lying antichrists:

Who is A LIAR but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is ANTICHRIST, that denieth the Father and the Son. (1 John 2:22)

You'll be able to give Jesus, your Creator, a piece of your mind when you stand before Christ at judgment (2 Cor. 5:10, Eccl. 12:14)

God says there's no truth in deniers of Christ (John 8:44) as evidenced by your dishonest statement that I did not already prove, ad nauseam, my contention that the KJV is the perfect Word of God.

The fact that you don't like that Jesus Christ created you, and has the right to make the rules to govern and judge you, does not change the fact that it's so.

It just means you don't like it:

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. (John 3:20)

The question of why deciding on the primacy of a particular translation is not answered by quoting from that translation. (Or quoting from any other, either).
It's not civil conversation to quote and then answer something completely unrelated. Knock it off.

Ali,

You queried in another of your posts whether I called you an antichrist…I didn't, but God, the Word convicts you as one (1 John 2:22)

It's real simple Ali, God preserved God's Word or there is no God.

Whatever happened as far as changes and edits was ultimately the will of God:

I the LORD do all these things. (Isa. 45:7)

This single truth addresses the entirety of zealot66's 'primacy' babblings.

The KJV is translated from the Textus Receptus and virtually identical to the Dead Sea Scrolls…and it's perfect.

If you contend that the KJV is not God's Word, then where is God? God made himself readily knowable or there is no God...and it's patently obvious that there is.

Naturally, It has devolved into romper room in here to camouflage the embarrassment of the lost.

Scoffers, there is a judgment coming for wicked deniers of the crucifixion of the son of God as the atoning sacrifice for your sins.

thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. (Ezek. 33:7)

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men (2 Cor. 5:11)
You are taking Isaiah 45:7 completely out of context. You're not even quoting the whole verse. It has nothing to do with the transmission of written words. It's talking about Creation and demonstrating God's power.

The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Textus Receptus are completely unrelated. Furthermore, the Textus Receptus is based on only 7 late Greek manuscripts. It has not been the standard Greek text for over a century.

You further contend that the KJV is God's Word because it is. You offer no reasoning but tautology and circular logic. The KJV is translated from inferior manuscripts, and utilizes deprecated language. While a hugely important piece of literature, the KJV is flawed for modern Bible study. Phone Post
3/30/13 8:56 PM
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Ali,
You queried in another of your posts whether I called you an antichrist...

No, I didn't. No query, just speculation about how I'd take it if you did. Addressed to someone else. The only query I directed in general, including to you, was about my summary of Kent Hovind's demagoguery. Which you answered, and I thanked you.

I'll tell you what -- find my quote, show how it's a query directed toward you. Or else admit you're illiterate. You demonstrate illiteracy over and over again, and miss it when it's pointed out to you, but this one is specific enough that you can't help but notice. Demonstrated illiteracy convicts any of your claims to knowing anything about any version of the written word.

So you're spreading hate based on an inability to read.

If I have anything to ask you, I'll be clear about it.
3/30/13 9:13 PM
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Poker face - No I was only addressing KFJ because from the very first post I felt as if he was trying to attack me and some how prove a superior intellect ...
I'll be the first to sat I'm only self taught and can get things wrong but there is a correct and civil way to address people and KFJ has some learning to do in this area
Ali and Zealot I never intended any of my rants your way
I was 2 blunts into some GDP and higher than eagle pussy when I saw that Napoleon Dynamite shit last night so thx for the laughs!!! Phone Post
Honestly, I was not trying to insult you or anyone else. I do admit that my nitpicking about "Revelations" was a bit over the top, and likely more confrontational than I should have been. I apologize for that. It's a pet peeve of mine which I let affect my replies, and that was wrong of me.

I also don't mean to come off as "superior" sounding. I'm just trying to engage in the dialectic, and to provide the information which has similarly been given to me.

When I am shown to be wrong-- which does happen-- I thank the other conversants for their help, and I amend my views. I'm not trying to pretend that I have all the answers. Just engaging in the dialogue as best I can. Phone Post

Ah, I understand. I don't try to brag about certain things because I'm a little guppy compared to giants in biblical scholarship but I have moved beyond the basics both formally and self teaching. I am completely comfortable reading books on Textual Criticism and the historiography of Jesus's time period. My greek is rusty but I put in thousands of hours learning it. 

I have other projects that I work on now but it pretty much consumed me for about a decade. 

3/30/13 9:17 PM
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You queried in another of your posts whether I called you an antichrist…I didn't, but God, the Word convicts you as one (1 John 2:22)

It's real simple Ali, God preserved God's Word or there is no God.

Whatever happened as far as changes and edits was ultimately the will of God:

I the LORD do all these things. (Isa. 45:7)

This single truth addresses the entirety of zealot66's 'primacy' babblings.

The KJV is translated from the Textus Receptus and virtually identical to the Dead Sea Scrolls…and it's perfect.

If you contend that the KJV is not God's Word, then where is God? God made himself readily knowable or there is no God...and it's patently obvious that there is.

Naturally, It has devolved into romper room in here to camouflage the embarrassment of the lost.

Scoffers, there is a judgment coming for wicked deniers of the crucifixion of the son of God as the atoning sacrifice for your sins.

thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. (Ezek. 33:7)

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ridge hand, 

You are simply ignorant and you are contradicting yourself every other word. YOU NEED TO LEARN TO AT LEAST USE GOOGLE. THE TEXTUS RECEPTUS IS THE GREEK NT. THERE ARE NO NT BOOKS FROM THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS COLLECTION. YOU SHOULD JUST SHUT UP BECAUSE NOW THERE IS A CONTINUING RECORD OF YOUR STUPIDITY AND LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON THIS BIBLE YOU CLAIM TO WORSHIP. GO AHEAD, TELL US SOME MORE STUPID STUFF YOU HEARD FROM YOUR RETARDED PREACHER. EITHER THAT OR GO CLEAN THE GARBAGE OUT OF YOUR FRONT YARD AND BRUSH YOUR TEETH AND GET A HAIRCUT. OH, AND GO BACK TO THE PORN GROUND WHERE YOU FREQUENT.

3/30/13 10:08 PM
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Ridge hand finally admitted there is no god!!! Hallelujah!!! Praise be to the FSM he is reborn!!!

See Ridge, I can be illiterate too.

Now go back to fapping to your KJV and let the people with the proper amount of chromosomes continue... Phone Post
3/31/13 10:11 AM
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Oh, and Happy Zombie Jesus Day ridge hand!!! Phone Post
3/31/13 2:29 PM
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DyingBreed - Why is he locked up btw? Phone Post
He didnt pay taxes haha Phone Post 3.0
3/31/13 3:56 PM
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Kent Hovind's tax fraud charges go well beyond simply "not paying". Wikipedia has a long sub-section, Legal Problems. Iif you want to read in a bit more detail directly, you can start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Hovind#Legal_problems

In so many debates this guy kept saying "MY TAXES are going toward teaching evolution in schools..."
Turns out it wasn't true. He was paying no taxes -- to go along with his other lies.

But yes, the man is a convicted fraud. His followers defend him as being "oppressed" by the government. That's just a willingness to be ripped-off.
The guy was raking in money, and ripping off both followers and other fellow-citizens.
3/31/13 8:08 PM
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For some reason, I missed out on this convicts pre eminence in Ridge thumb's life. checking this legal issue and his statements in court, I have a feeling that Ridge thumb is probably doing the same two faced illegal bullshit that his master and lord has done. I bet if you went through Ridge's computer you would find midget porn files next to the podcasts of dinosaurs mating. 

Come out you little dirtbag, come out and play. Or are you going to cower behind false prophets, militia men with child porn and servants of your lord and savior King James?


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