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11/21/12 9:42 AM
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gsp wouldn't get one take down


chael had him down 10 seconds into their second fight, even though everyone knew that was his plan.
11/21/12 9:51 AM
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BoilerBrawnByBeatdown - lol@people who bring up the 1st Sonnen fight, unless GSP comes in juiced and Anderson comes in injured, that ain't gonna happen.

and second, GSP's takedowns are NOTHING like Sonnen's.

Sonnen doesn't care if he gets hit coming in, he's going forward no matter what. If you think GSP is going to go in recklessly like Sonnen, you are a DUMB FUCK.

That last part is the salient point, IMO. And it's why I believe you to be completely wrong about GSP's chances.

GSP won't risk Silva's power. GPS will set up Silva for a TD. And he'll get it. As a couple of others have mentioned - it's what he can do when he gets there, and will he be able to avoid Silva's striking throughout the fight in order to get the TDs.
11/21/12 10:22 AM
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Anderson would nuke GSP. Phone Post
11/21/12 10:31 AM
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gsp wouldn't get one take down


chael had him down 10 seconds into their second fight, even though everyone knew that was his plan.

gsp isn't chael.. chael has like 20 lbs on him

11/21/12 10:31 AM
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Sal Penis -  GSP takes Anderson down all fucking day. Phone Post

he will make it look easy....GSP has been out wrestling collegiate wrestling stars in the WW division for YEARS...people are letting these silly weight classes cloud the obvious...

.GSP will take silva down, the only difference between GSP and Sonnen is while GSP will give up some size and strength he has much quicker takedowns and way better BJJ...he wont get subbed from the bottom..

Can GSP avoid the KO? That is the question
Wow with a name like that you CAN'T be biased.



Gtfoh. Phone Post
11/21/12 10:49 AM
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JamieHill - I think Rashad's got it about right.

Consider the opponents that Silva has faced, not one of them would beat GSP, imo. Sonnen, Okami, Bonnar, Belfort, Maia, Griffin, Leites, Cote, Irvin, Marquardt, Leben, Franklin, .. Henderson would put up a helluva scrap, for sure, but I'd say GSP would still take decision.

Of course, the same could be said of GSP's record, where I'd say Condit would give Anderson a run for his money as well. To say that GSP would lose definitely to Anderson is foolish.

That being said, Condit in the middleweight division.. interesting, very interesting.

i have to stop you at henderson.

i think hendo has the firepower and the wrestling to handle gsp.


and by handle i mean drop those BOMBS!
11/21/12 10:54 AM
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JamieHill - I think Rashad's got it about right.

Consider the opponents that Silva has faced, not one of them would beat GSP, imo. Sonnen, Okami, Bonnar, Belfort, Maia, Griffin, Leites, Cote, Irvin, Marquardt, Leben, Franklin, .. Henderson would put up a helluva scrap, for sure, but I'd say GSP would still take decision.

Of course, the same could be said of GSP's record, where I'd say Condit would give Anderson a run for his money as well. To say that GSP would lose definitely to Anderson is foolish.

That being said, Condit in the middleweight division.. interesting, very interesting.

i have to stop you at henderson.

i think hendo has the firepower and the wrestling to handle gsp.


and by handle i mean drop those BOMBS!

Yeah, thinking about it.. Hendo vs GSP would be very difficult for Georges, hell, I give Hendo a very big chance against anyone, Spider included.
11/21/12 10:56 AM
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" one thing with Anderson is that he has such a problem with defending the takedown."

 

Didn't they say Anderson has the second-highest takedown defense rate in the UFC?


At MW....then Goldie took a big shit on Brad Tavares

11/21/12 10:57 AM
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Shocking a fighter who has turned down the chance to fight Anderson 3 times now thinks a guy from 2 weight classes lower "definitely" can beat Anderson.....what is he saying about himself?

11/21/12 11:10 AM
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Not saying this is going to happen by all means. But how crazy would it be if GSP knocked Anderson Silva out, TKO'd him or submitted him? Could you imagine how insane the UG would fucking get?! Lol Phone Post
11/21/12 11:33 AM
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GSP is gonna take him down... so what?  I bet anderson does more damage from the bottom than GSP can do from the top. The difference is GSP has to take him down every round and keep him there while Anderson can finish the fight at any time.

11/21/12 11:39 AM
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gsp wouldn't get one take down


chael had him down 10 seconds into their second fight, even though everyone knew that was his plan.

gsp isn't chael.. chael has like 20 lbs on him


this is true, but GSP can't be subbed like chael can. definitely an uphill battle for GSP, and anderson should be favored a little bit more than -160, but still this is a winnable fight for georges, imo.
11/21/12 11:42 AM
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Why did Rashad decline to fight Silva @ 205 if his wrestling is so crappy? Phone Post
11/21/12 11:46 AM
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eljamaiquino -  Why did Rashad decline to fight Silva @ 205 if his wrestling is so crappy? Phone Post

3 times.

 

To be fair two of them were on "short notice"....but still.

11/21/12 11:53 AM
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GSP hardly has a great record of finishing people from the top so why is he all of a sudden going to finish Anderson?

If the fight were to stay standing like vs Condit, GSP is in deep trouble.
11/21/12 12:07 PM
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KingofBJJ - What the hell is Rashad "porn start" Evans talking about? Silva has the second best takedown defense in the UFC.

Bonner couldn't take him down. Sonnen was only able to take him down once. Okami couldn't take him down.

I just don't these fights supporting his argument.

sonnen took him down in 6 rounds consecutively.
11/21/12 12:33 PM
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Or one could say that in the fight where Anderson wasn't injured, Sonnen went 1 for 4 on takedown attempts.

11/21/12 12:33 PM
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Or one could say that in the fight where Anderson wasn't injured, Sonnen went 1 for 4 on takedown attempts.

11/21/12 12:41 PM
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When Sonnen wasn't juiced, he got 1 out of how many attempts? Hendo got exactly 1 takedown. Plus Silva took both Hendo and Chael down as well. Anderson defends over 80% of takedowns. Its just that he doesn't always try to get right back up when he goes down. Phone Post
11/21/12 12:46 PM
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JustAnotherMMAFan - If George spends 1/4 of the time he spent against Carlos Condit standing, he is going to get t.k.oed and fast.

Anderson is not THAT easy to be taken down. He ***can*** be taken down, just not that easily. And he will have a great strength and reach advantage against George.

Every fighter Anderson has faced who has GOOD WRESTLING has taken him down. GSP will take him down. 

11/21/12 12:48 PM
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JamieHill - I think Rashad's got it about right.

Consider the opponents that Silva has faced, not one of them would beat GSP, imo. Sonnen, Okami, Bonnar, Belfort, Maia, Griffin, Leites, Cote, Irvin, Marquardt, Leben, Franklin, .. Henderson would put up a helluva scrap, for sure, but I'd say GSP would still take decision.

Of course, the same could be said of GSP's record, where I'd say Condit would give Anderson a run for his money as well. To say that GSP would lose definitely to Anderson is foolish.

That being said, Condit in the middleweight division.. interesting, very interesting.

i have to stop you at henderson.

i think hendo has the firepower and the wrestling to handle gsp.


and by handle i mean drop those BOMBS!

You are overrating Hendo's takedown defense. Its not that good nowadays, 5 years ago sure, not now. GSP would take him down like he did condit. 

11/21/12 12:51 PM
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KingofBJJ - What the hell is Rashad "porn start" Evans talking about? Silva has the second best takedown defense in the UFC.

Bonner couldn't take him down. Sonnen was only able to take him down once. Okami couldn't take him down.

I just don't these fights supporting his argument.

sonnen took him down in 6 rounds consecutively.

lol.  with most posters i'd have said u got trolled but in this case the dude's just retarded

11/21/12 12:56 PM
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I don't think there's anyway GSP beats Silva. But Rashad would. That's a fight I would like to see.
11/21/12 1:04 PM
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Taking Silva down means nothing. Anderson has been taken down multiple times in the Ufc and yet has never lost in the Ufc. In fact Everyone who took Anderson down was finished. So maybe Gsp shouldn't try to take him down.. Phone Post
11/21/12 1:11 PM
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eljamaiquino -  Taking Silva down means nothing. Anderson has been taken down multiple times in the Ufc and yet has never lost in the Ufc. In fact Everyone who took Anderson down was finished. So maybe Gsp shouldn't try to take him down.. Phone Post

nice logic.  and how many people did silva beat purely in standup? guess he shouldn't do that too then.  oh well, no ground, no standup.  fights off!  tactically you have to pretend the first chael fight was a loss for silva because silva only won due to chael giving it to him.  it wasn't anything close to a slick submission and most whitebelts would have felt the triangle being set up.  that is the blueprint to beat andy.  u can't look at that fight and disregard the 100 things chael did right just because andy accepted the gift chael handed him

would love to see you as gsp's new coach:  "looks georges, you're the best pure mma wrestler in the world.  here's the plan.  stand up and BOX him! yeah yeah and do those kick things too! he'll never expect that!  that's right, now go out there and kick his ass!


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