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11/21/12 12:41 PM
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i know theres a lot of arguments and spinning and misinformation that goes on about this debate regarding weight cuts, supposed measurements, off season weight, in cage weight etc...but do people honestly believe that anderson is closer in size to gsp than he is to bones? and i am just talking about bone and body structure (obviously gsp is more muscular)...

 

seems pretty obvious that anderson is much closer in size to bones than he is to gsp..yes, anderson fought at 170 before, but that was a long long time ago, when we was a poor brasilian fighter, struggling to make it eating beans and rice for every meal and contemplating a career at mcdonalds...

 

11/21/12 12:44 PM
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anderson can cut to 177.  he has fought at 167.

Can bones cut to 195? 

 

11/21/12 12:46 PM
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Pictures mean little. Here are facts:

 

Height:

Anderson: 6'2"

Bones: 6'4"

GSP: 5'10.5" (compramise :))

 

Reach:

Anderson: 77.5"

Bones: 84.5"

GSP: 76"

 

Weight in the CAGE:

Anderson: 198-205

Bones: 218-226

GSP: 188-193

 

 

Think what you want, but GSP/Andy are MUCH closer in 2 of the 3 major components of "Size".

 

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11/21/12 12:48 PM
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How many of these threads are you going to make?

11/21/12 12:49 PM
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Pictures mean little. Here are facts:

 

Height:

Anderson: 6'2"

Bones: 6'4"

GSP: 5'10.5" (compramise :))

 

Reach:

Anderson: 77.5"

Bones: 84.5"

GSP: 76"

 

Weight in the CAGE:

Anderson: 198-205

Bones: 218-226

GSP: 188-193

 

 

Think what you want, but GSP/Andy are MUCH closer in 2 of the 3 major components of "Size".

 


and where exactly did you get this data? you know the ufc used to list anderson at 5 10 right? use your eyes and brain

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this thread is now hot chicks

 

11/21/12 12:50 PM
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How many of these threads are you going to make?


threads about anderson being closer in size to bones?

 

ummmmm..this is my first...lay off the acid son

11/21/12 12:50 PM
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If people want to question what the fighters and their nutritionist say they weigh in the cage, here are photos of Jones and Silva when they BOTH weigh exactly 205 and have a day and a half to "rehydrate":

 

 

 

 

One of those guys rehydrates 20 pounds.....guess which one. :)

11/21/12 12:51 PM
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and i find it pretty funny that the dorks that are soooo sick of this discussion flock to it immediately like flies on shit and make multiple posts

11/21/12 12:52 PM
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If people want to question what the fighters and their nutritionist say they weigh in the cage, here are photos of Jones and Silva when they BOTH weigh exactly 205 and have a day and a half to "rehydrate":

 

 

 

 

One of those guys rehydrates 20 pounds.....guess which one. :)


anderson has to cut to make 205..he also rehydrats..i dont know the amount but according to vinny anderson walks around at 215+

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Pictures mean little. Here are facts:

 

Height:

Anderson: 6'2"

Bones: 6'4"

GSP: 5'10.5" (compramise :))

 

Reach:

Anderson: 77.5"

Bones: 84.5"

GSP: 76"

 

Weight in the CAGE:

Anderson: 198-205

Bones: 218-226

GSP: 188-193

 

 

Think what you want, but GSP/Andy are MUCH closer in 2 of the 3 major components of "Size".

 


and where exactly did you get this data? you know the ufc used to list anderson at 5 10 right? use your eyes and brain


The data on height and reach comes from multiple sources, all of which list the same thing. Yes, YEARS ago the UFC had shitty stats. They have since started measuring the fighters themselves instead of just taking what they are told.

 

The weight in the cage are from the fighters directly, or their nutritionists.

 

I am using my eyes and brain. Clearly you are not.

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anderson has to cut to make 205..he also rehydrats..i dont know the amount but according to vinny anderson walks around at 215+

 


You are wrong. Also, what they "walk around" at means nothing.

 

 

A guy who comes in at 202 on the scale and says himself he will be ~205 in the cage is not "rehydrating".

11/21/12 12:59 PM
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you'd think GSP nuthuggers would have more faith in their guy...  It seems they have already given up and conceded the fight and now have to resort to whining about it not being fair.

would you rather GSP lose to some guy at 170 or the greatest mma fighter ever? GSP has nothing to lose in this... Anderson has way more to lose.

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anderson can cut to 177.  he has fought at 167.

Can bones cut to 195? 

 


And this is Anderson at 167 in 2002. Do you think its likely he can get to this weight again?

11/21/12 1:02 PM
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^^^^ He honestly does not look much more muscular than he was there. I would think the 177.5 catchweight would be easy for him. 170 might be too tough given age.

 

Where Jones could NEVER meet Anderson half way. That alone speaks to who "cuts" more and who regains more come fight night.

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anderson can cut to 177.  he has fought at 167.

Can bones cut to 195? 

 


And this is Anderson at 167 in 2002. Do you think its likely he can get to this weight again?

 

fair chance that at that time he was not rehydrating all that much and was actually close to 167. With professional nutritionists and weight cutting experience,now, if he fought at 167 weight class he would probably be significantly bigger than that . 

 

not saying thats the truth and nothing but the truth, but I think its likely the case

 

edit: this is purely speculation. I wonder how much he did or did not cut during this time period...I do not have any information that should make me say this likely or not likely

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11/21/12 1:13 PM
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anderson has to cut to make 205..he also rehydrats..i dont know the amount but according to vinny anderson walks around at 215+

 


You are wrong. Also, what they "walk around" at means nothing.

 

 

A guy who comes in at 202 on the scale and says himself he will be ~205 in the cage is not "rehydrating".


u really believe anderson is 205 in the cage when he fights at 205?

11/21/12 1:15 PM
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Anderson weighed 175 for the ROTR tournament, were people at the time complaining about the size advantage he had over Trigg, Shields, Condit, etc? His proposed catchweight for the GSP fight is only 2.5lb heavier than that.

 

And as I said on another thread, the Forrest pic cracks me up for a very simple reason. The logic goes that he doesn't look dramatically smaller than Forrest, who is a huge LHW, so he must be 10x GSP's size, who is  an average welter (supposedly; although we don't actually know of any ring weights for welters that are heavier than GSP's for the Kos/Shields fights).

Well, that's Anderson at 205; Anderson at 185 looks about the same size as Demia Maia, who was considered a small middleweight and is now an average welterweight. 

 

 

Then drop another 7.5lb....

 

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If people want to question what the fighters and their nutritionist say they weigh in the cage, here are photos of Jones and Silva when they BOTH weigh exactly 205 and have a day and a half to "rehydrate":

 

 

 

 

One of those guys rehydrates 20 pounds.....guess which one. :)


anderson has to cut to make 205..he also rehydrats..i dont know the amount but according to vinny anderson walks around at 215+


He doesn't have to cut to make 205 stop making up stuff.

Such a played out topic and you're boring.

 

ummm.soares said before the bonnar fight that anderson was cutting weight...he also previously said gsp would be crazy to fight anderson since anderson weights 230

 

and if its so played out..y do u keep posting? have to defend yourman's honor? lol

 

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anderson has to cut to make 205..he also rehydrats..i dont know the amount but according to vinny anderson walks around at 215+

 


You are wrong. Also, what they "walk around" at means nothing.

 

 

A guy who comes in at 202 on the scale and says himself he will be ~205 in the cage is not "rehydrating".


u really believe anderson is 205 in the cage when he fights at 205?


You really believe Anderson cut an extra 3lb to 202 again Bonnar because he enjoys cutting weight?

You really believe this is what someone cutting significant amount of water weight looks like at weighin?

 

 

Why is everyone so deadset on insisting that EVERYONE in Anderson's camp is lying about his weight, over and over again for years on end, when the weights we KNOW -- 202 on the scale against Bonnar, 182 on the scale against Leites, 191 on Wednesday before Okami fight, 175 for fights at age 30 -- back them up?

Goku, do you have a goal of creating a minimum of one negative thread about Anderson SIlva every single day?

 

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anderson has to cut to make 205..he also rehydrats..i dont know the amount but according to vinny anderson walks around at 215+

 

 


You are wrong. Also, what they "walk around" at means nothing.

 

 

 

A guy who comes in at 202 on the scale and says himself he will be ~205 in the cage is not "rehydrating".


u really believe anderson is 205 in the cage when he fights at 205?

 


Yes. "Use your eyes"

 

 

You really believe a guy that is dehydrating water weight has a muffin top and no definition in his core on the scale at 202? You clearly have NEVER cut weight before in your life.


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