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11/21/12 11:09 PM
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Following his win over Carlos Condit this past Saturday, UFC welterweight champ Georges St-Pierre noted that UFC Middleweight Anderson Silva fought in PRIDE at 168 pounds and possibly carried the kind of frame suited to weight gains and drops – unlike him.

While UFC President Dana White hopes to make the match in 2013, one incentive would likely be off the table if Silva dropped to welterweight: GSP's belt.

"Probably not, because I don't know how many times Anderson would actually defend it," said White.

"It's more of a pound-for-pound, legacy-type fight," said White, who plans to give St-Pierre plenty of time to recover from his recent bout before approaching the possible matchup.

For his part, Silva suggested the potential fight should take place at 177 pounds.

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11/21/12 11:13 PM
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I'm pretty sure this article contains no actual info. Phone Post
11/21/12 11:20 PM
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Of course it should be for the belt. It doesn't matter if Anderson will defend it. He can vacate it immediately if he chooses (if he wins). If it's a five round fight at welterweight with the champion how could it not be for the belt?

11/21/12 11:21 PM
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177 non-title superfight is really the only fight that makes sense... George won't come up to 185 without staying there. Anderson won't stay at 170 to defend his belt. George is also bigger now than ever before and was totally dehydrated for his last weigh-in. It's obvious that George can fight at 177 and still come in over 180. If Anderson made weight at 177, he wouldn't be much heavier than George on fight night.
11/21/12 11:22 PM
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If Anderson has to cut to 170 he should get George's belt Phone Post
11/21/12 11:23 PM
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Frank Gallagher - UG blog strikes again
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11/21/12 11:27 PM
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Yep..

11/21/12 11:34 PM
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GSP vs. Silva at 170, belt not on line  = best possibility for this fight to happen

11/21/12 11:35 PM
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ortman166 -  If Anderson has to cut to 170 he should get George's belt Phone Post

THIS. wtf is this shit?

the p4p greatest fighter in the world is dropping to 170 for GSPs sake and the belt is NOT on the line?

got to be kidding me...
11/21/12 11:40 PM
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ortman166 -  If Anderson has to cut to 170 he should get George's belt Phone Post

THIS. wtf is this shit?

the p4p greatest fighter in the world is dropping to 170 for GSPs sake and the belt is NOT on the line?

got to be kidding me...
The article basically says anderson hasn't said he's coming down to 170, and we haven't approached gsp about it but I'm gonna say belts not on the line without asking either of those guys about it.
It means nothing don't let it get to you, it's not happening Phone Post
11/21/12 11:41 PM
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Wow, thats 50 shades of Gay.
11/21/12 11:46 PM
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ortman166 -  If Anderson has to cut to 170 he should get George's belt Phone Post

I agree... If he can't win the belt, it makes no sense for him to cut all of that weight.

George keeps talking about how "big" Anderson is... how Anderson weighs "230lbs" etc. But George also likes to say that Anderson should be about to make 170 because Anderson used to fight at 168. George can't have it both ways. If Anderson is 230lbs and "too big".. to 170lb is unreasonable.
11/21/12 11:47 PM
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I think Dana is saying he doesn't want to name Silva champ if he has no intention of defending the belt. It doesn't sound like GSP has any say about it.

But who cares about the belt with respect to this fight, seriously?

Silva @170 is the only way I actually look forward to seeing this fight.
11/21/12 11:49 PM
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Dana basically admitting his lack of confidence in GSP Phone Post
11/21/12 11:59 PM
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Wow, I came here thinking the match was made and set for 170 pounds. Misleading title....
11/22/12 12:08 AM
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SJBenoist - I think Dana is saying he doesn't want to name Silva champ if he has no intention of defending the belt. It doesn't sound like GSP has any say about it.

But who cares about the belt with respect to this fight, seriously?

Silva @170 is the only way I actually look forward to seeing this fight.

It doesn't matter who is saying it. If it's non-title.. meet in the middle. It doesn't get any more fair than that. If George is afraid to fight 7lbs higher to cement his legacy, it will say plenty about George...
11/22/12 12:29 AM
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If Anderson doesn't want to fight the elite at LHW let him cut to fight the elite at 170
11/22/12 12:33 AM
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Thats some horse shit right there.

So he cuts to 170 for what legacy? his legacy will be greater if he is a multi weight champ.
They should meet in the middle 177 if it isnt for a belt.

If its 170 or 185 it should be for a belt
11/22/12 12:37 AM
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@ 171 then? Phone Post
11/22/12 12:37 AM
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Great thread title once again ug blog. I hope your turkey has salmonella.
11/22/12 12:46 AM
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rockwell - If Anderson doesn't want to fight the elite at LHW let him cut to fight the elite at 170

Worst logic ever.

That's almost as bad as George's logic that he can't go to 185 because he's an "ectomorph".. when Anderson has even more of an ectomorph physique.
11/22/12 1:46 AM
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rockwell - If Anderson doesn't want to fight the elite at LHW let him cut to fight the elite at 170

Worst logic ever.

That's almost as bad as George's logic that he can't go to 185 because he's an "ectomorph".. when Anderson has even more of an ectomorph physique.
George never said ge cant go to 185. He said ge cant go up then come down and keep doing it. He infqct said if he went up to 185 ge would stay there. Phone Post
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So, quick question:

If it comes down to a non-title 170 lbs match Vs. GSP, or a 185 lbs title defense against Weidman, what would you prefer to see?

11/22/12 1:49 AM
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hmmm George is intelligent that's what fight fans dislike about him, he wants to win this fight so bad that he'll take on a dehydrated Anderson Silva like come on its a gad damn honor to fight against Silva, i remember a few of years ago George would talk about how his legacy is the most important thing when it comes to mma,now a few years later when its possible that Anderson will fight him hes got on these bogus weight requirements...Anderson has no choice but to move down to 170, Anderson was being as reasonable as possible he wanted a fight at a median....that's fair that shows hespect to George as a fighter..George has got no honor and hespect!!why not seize the moment.ooh rite cause George has doubts in his mind that he wont even come close to beating Anderson.

Anderson should suggest that if George wants to make this at 170 cause he candidly reminds us all, that Anderson fought at 168 in pride well why don't we bring back the good old days......UFC ANDERSON SILVA VS GEORGE ST PIERRE JAPAN!!! PRIDE RULES!!!

tired of seeing George land elbows that do cosmetic damage nothing to ko someone with...SO 170 = PRIDE RULES<br />imma write a petition rite now!!whose gonna sign this bad boy with me????
11/22/12 1:50 AM
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rockwell - If Anderson doesn't want to fight the elite at LHW let him cut to fight the elite at 170

Worst logic ever.

That's almost as bad as George's logic that he can't go to 185 because he's an "ectomorph".. when Anderson has even more of an ectomorph physique.
George never said ge cant go to 185. He said ge cant go up then come down and keep doing it. He infqct said if he went up to 185 ge would stay there. Phone Post

I already said that. ("George won't come up to 185 without staying there. Anderson won't stay at 170 to defend his belt. ")

The point is that George said he can't move up and down in weight because "he's an ectomorph", yet he expects Anderson who has already fought at LHW and Middleweight to drop down to 170 and back up again even though Anderson has a more ectomorphic physique. George's logic is inconsistent.

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