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11/22/12 3:20 PM
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11/22/12 3:21 PM
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Just seems to me like GSP has everything to lose in this fight and Silva has nothing to gain. GSP loses, which he likely would, he takes a publicity hit and could potentially lose sponsorship money. If Silva wins it really gains him nothing as people already see him as the GOAT and he gets a win against a smaller fighter who, very few, thought ever had a chance to beat him. Silva vs Jones would be a compelling matchup as Anderson has wins at the weight, including one over a former champion, and i am not sure who the favorite would be but i would give the edge to Silva personally. Of course Silva shouldn't be expected to take a fight against Jones or be bullied into it just as GSP shouldn't be forced to take a fight against Silva. I think as it is that there are some very marketable fights for both GSP and Anderson in their own weight classes.
11/22/12 3:59 PM
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AK-BJJ - Good grief this thread is frustrating...

Fake fucking thread title.

People saying Anderson is picking on a smaller guy... That argument goes out the window if he makes 170.

The actual thought of Anderson making 170 and not fighting for the championship... Why the hell make it at 170 then?! 170 is a weight class and the champion of that weight class is fighting against another world champion! WTF?!

Silvas not making 170

That's fine... I'm just going with the topic as if he can.

If he can't that's just something else annoying... why talk about something that isn't even fucking possible?
11/22/12 4:42 PM
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Now that Firas flip flopped and is calling for 170 Anderson and Co. should just say 175 or something. They can make it 5 rounds and not for the title. No sense in having the belt on the line. Phone Post
11/22/12 4:43 PM
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I love everyone crying about Silva defending more than once a year. There is only ONE year out of seven where he hasn't fought at least twice. He averages over 2 fights per year in the ufc. Phone Post
11/22/12 4:48 PM
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11/22/12 6:08 PM
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At 170 it has to be for the belt.

This will be an excellent fight at 170, I look forward to seeing it.
11/22/12 6:14 PM
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easedel - We don't want this shit or any other superfight.

Who is "we"? The little voices in your head?

You can't have a super fight in a sport where the weight classes are as far apart as they are.

Yes, of course. Because people don't fluctuate in weight and fights are never fought at catch weights. Of course.

This seems like nothing but Dana finding a way to get Silva his big payday while keeping his "legacy" intact.
I got some superfights for you...Silva defends more then once a year at 185.

In case you missed it....

Silva has averaged more than two fights per year for the better part of a decade.
11/22/12 6:43 PM
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What about gsp v Diaz at catch weight and then gsp silva end of 2013 allowing georges to go up to MW right. Would have to vacate his belt never to return to WW. Phone Post
11/22/12 6:47 PM
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177lbs or not at all. 170 / 185 is unreasonable to each fighter respectively. Phone Post
11/22/12 6:49 PM
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Here's the deal gentlemen...

If GSP wants P4P status.. he has to fight outside the comfort of WW. He needs to venture beyond the advantage of cutting 20lbs of water and coming into his fights bigger than all of his opponents.

Anderson has fought and beaten champions and former champions in three weight divisions... from welterweight to light heavyweight. Jones is going to be moving from lightheavy to heavyweight after his TUF fight with Sonnen. BJ Penn has fought from lightweight to welterweight, middleweight and even Lyoto Machida at HEAVYWEIGHT. That's why those guys are the real pound-for-pound champs. Until GSP shows some ability with bigger guys, he will not be a legit P4P champ. He will remain a WW goat only.
11/22/12 7:29 PM
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Does anyone believe Andy gives a shit about the ww belt? This fight will make him the bank he's after No matter what the weight ends up being. Why is only interested in a fight with bisping at mw and not with weidman or any other contenders? Bisping fight will sell, meaning bigger ppv cut. Gsp/Andy will make them unheard of bank. Even if it's at 170 without the belt. Phone Post
11/22/12 7:42 PM
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Jacinto - Just seems to me like GSP has everything to lose in this fight and Silva has nothing to gain. GSP loses, which he likely would, he takes a publicity hit and could potentially lose sponsorship money. If Silva wins it really gains him nothing as people already see him as the GOAT and he gets a win against a smaller fighter who, very few, thought ever had a chance to beat him. Silva vs Jones would be a compelling matchup as Anderson has wins at the weight, including one over a former champion, and i am not sure who the favorite would be but i would give the edge to Silva personally. Of course Silva shouldn't be expected to take a fight against Jones or be bullied into it just as GSP shouldn't be forced to take a fight against Silva. I think as it is that there are some very marketable fights for both GSP and Anderson in their own weight classes.
I disagree.

GSP has nothing to lose. If he loses he loses to the GOAT and a much bigger man. Hell, if he wins even one or two rounds his stock would go up. If Silva loses (very unlikely) his stock would tank and even if he wins everyone would have expected him to anyway. Phone Post
11/22/12 7:45 PM
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fuck off, if it's not for the belt.
11/22/12 10:35 PM
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Bucephalus - Here's the deal gentlemen...

If GSP wants P4P status.. he has to fight outside the comfort of WW. He needs to venture beyond the advantage of cutting 20lbs of water and coming into his fights bigger than all of his opponents.

Anderson has fought and beaten champions and former champions in three weight divisions... from welterweight to light heavyweight. Jones is going to be moving from lightheavy to heavyweight after his TUF fight with Sonnen. BJ Penn has fought from lightweight to welterweight, middleweight and even Lyoto Machida at HEAVYWEIGHT. That's why those guys are the real pound-for-pound champs. Until GSP shows some ability with bigger guys, he will not be a legit P4P champ. He will remain a WW goat only.

I completely disagree with GSP being bigger than all of his opponents, that is just a retarded statement.

Did Condit looked tiny compared to GSP?

Regardless, P4P is meaningless drivel. As for GOAT, here today (e.g. Fedor) gone tomorrow.

Having a UFC belt and being such a dominate champion = $$$$$$$$.
11/22/12 10:36 PM
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Jacinto - Just seems to me like GSP has everything to lose in this fight and Silva has nothing to gain. GSP loses, which he likely would, he takes a publicity hit and could potentially lose sponsorship money. If Silva wins it really gains him nothing as people already see him as the GOAT and he gets a win against a smaller fighter who, very few, thought ever had a chance to beat him. Silva vs Jones would be a compelling matchup as Anderson has wins at the weight, including one over a former champion, and i am not sure who the favorite would be but i would give the edge to Silva personally. Of course Silva shouldn't be expected to take a fight against Jones or be bullied into it just as GSP shouldn't be forced to take a fight against Silva. I think as it is that there are some very marketable fights for both GSP and Anderson in their own weight classes.

yes sir........
11/23/12 9:00 PM
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If the Underground Blog wants to be taken seriously, they really need to start acting like fucking professionals and quit it with these intentionally misleading titles. I really hope it bites them in the ass soon
11/23/12 9:40 PM
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I do not understand why the UFC panders to GSP so much. He has fought once in the last 18 months. There are guys like Nick Diaz, Hendricks, Kampmen, Fitch, an in shape BJ, Rory, etc that have worked their way up in the division. A division that was once cleared out by GSP has again become pretty stacked. Now they would tell Anderson Silva he has to drop to 170 to fight GSP? A catch weight is the only thing that makes sense. Especially due to the fact neither will win or lose a belt.
11/23/12 10:00 PM
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SJBenoist - So, quick question:

If it comes down to a non-title 170 lbs match Vs. GSP, or a 185 lbs title defense against Weidman, what would you prefer to see?


GSP vs Silva. The window of opportunity for this match to mean anything to the fans won't be open forever.

 

Cindy


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