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11/26/12 4:29 PM
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^^^ as far as bjj coaches go, in north america, he may bet the GOAT.
11/26/12 4:49 PM
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LEAVE NOTHING TO THE REFS or JUDGES
11/26/12 5:07 PM
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11/26/12 5:07 PM
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Lloyd Irvin wants it to be HIS good ol boys club, not someone elses.

Lloyd has done a lot of shady shit himself.


What shady shit has he done 12sixelbow?
11/26/12 5:29 PM
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^^^ well for one thing he's always taking people that suck and turning them into multiple champions. from what i have seen in the usa, people generally hate that kinda sh**
11/26/12 5:29 PM
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bhealthy - LEAVE NOTHING TO THE REFS or JUDGES
Easier said then done. This is the dumbest quote ever... You should be able to leave it in the hands of the judges/refs and expect to get a fair call. Phone Post
11/26/12 5:32 PM
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11/26/12 5:32 PM
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jaytrainwreck -  Isn't Sinistro the Green Lantern's arch-nemesis? Phone Post

Now he's a Green lantern again.
11/26/12 5:44 PM
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bhealthy - LEAVE NOTHING TO THE REFS or JUDGES
Easier said then done. This is the dumbest quote ever... You should be able to leave it in the hands of the judges/refs and expect to get a fair call. Phone Post

^^^^ are you implying that something is easier if you say it first, THEN do it?
11/26/12 5:50 PM
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I am not affiliated with Lloyd but I will tell you that I was randomly sitting right behind his team at the World No Gi tournament a few weeks ago.

I was watching a match between his student and a Barra competitor. I personally witnessed the ref blatantly IGNORE two sweeps and 4 or 5 advantages. If I wouldn't have been there, I would have thought his comments were sour grapes. I was honestly shocked at how his athlete was treated.

I'm competitor and know the rules (multi-time Pan, World, National champion). His team really does get a raw deal.

Sadly, I think his complaining about it in such a public way will only make it worse.
11/26/12 6:28 PM
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I haven't compete in no gi grappling tourneys in years and only competed in gi once at a small tourney,but training partners of mine go to all these tourneys and they say the same thing....

I come from a wrestling backround.There are some not so good officials but I never really felt any purposely made bad calls. Officials on the collegiate and pro levels are scrutinized by their federation via video tape analysis and can lose job due to poor performance,etc. wheras many of thes tournaments seem to just have other grapplers refereeing.
11/26/12 11:20 PM
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RogueSpirit - I am not affiliated with Lloyd but I will tell you that I was randomly sitting right behind his team at the World No Gi tournament a few weeks ago.

I was watching a match between his student and a Barra competitor. I personally witnessed the ref blatantly IGNORE two sweeps and 4 or 5 advantages. If I wouldn't have been there, I would have thought his comments were sour grapes. I was honestly shocked at how his athlete was treated.

I'm competitor and know the rules (multi-time Pan, World, National champion). His team really does get a raw deal.

Sadly, I think his complaining about it in such a public way will only make it worse.
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11/27/12 9:18 PM
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Longest UG blog post I've seen in +3 plus years here. WOW.
11/28/12 9:58 AM
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Crying about the screwing doesn't stop the screwing, it just makes them screw you harder.  And laugh.

 

^ things I learned in prison.

 

IMO, LLoyd lost a lot of credibility as a 'branding' expert with this public pissing match...this is not how you elevate your brand, this is how incur negative brand equity.

11/28/12 10:22 AM
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11/28/12 10:35 AM
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Crying about the screwing doesn't stop the screwing, it just makes them screw you harder.  And laugh.

 

^ things I learned in prison.

 

IMO, LLoyd lost a lot of credibility as a 'branding' expert with this public pissing match...this is not how you elevate your brand, this is how incur negative brand equity.


I don't think he's trying to elevate his "brand." I think he's tired of his athletes getting a completely screwed at competitions and voiced his opinion.
11/28/12 1:49 PM
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bhealthy - ^^^ as far as bjj coaches go, in north america, he may bet the GOAT.

lol not even the goat of the east coast.


Are you tryin to say Rhadi Ferguson is!?!?!
11/28/12 1:51 PM
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^^^^^and nick starks is a shoottfighter/catchwrestler, so dont even go there
11/28/12 6:21 PM
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Crying about the screwing doesn't stop the screwing, it just makes them screw you harder.  And laugh.

 

^ things I learned in prison.

 

IMO, LLoyd lost a lot of credibility as a 'branding' expert with this public pissing match...this is not how you elevate your brand, this is how incur negative brand equity.


I don't think he's trying to elevate his "brand." I think he's tired of his athletes getting a completely screwed at competitions and voiced his opinion.

Winning tournaments is how Master Lloyd elevates his brand of BJJ over his competitors in the training marketplace.

 

I think this is a very short-sighted strategy to achieve that goal.  He's doing net damage to his brand, and brand value is extremely difficult to recoup.

11/28/12 6:22 PM
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bhealthy - ^^^ as far as bjj coaches go, in north america, he may bet the GOAT.

lol not even the goat of the east coast.


Are you tryin to say Rhadi Ferguson is!?!?!

that's DOCTOR Rhadi Ferguson.

 

come correct.

11/28/12 9:11 PM
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^^ sorry to be so informal, its just that i was having coffee.... :)



11/28/12 10:20 PM
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Heel Hooker - BTW bad comparison Lloyd. Kind of insulting to Rosa Parks imo.

i'm still shaking my head.

I thought the same. Someone on twitter called me dumb for suggesting it, but I don't see the point in trying to compare every day life crap to major moments in history. Phone Post
11/28/12 10:29 PM
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bhealthy - ^^^ as far as bjj coaches go, in north america, he may bet the GOAT.

lol not even the goat of the east coast.


So name the GOAT on the East Coast.
11/29/12 3:53 PM
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bhealthy - ^^^ as far as bjj coaches go, in north america, he may bet the GOAT.

lol not even the goat of the east coast.


So name the GOAT on the East Coast.

I think between Marcelo Garcia and Renzo Gracie you might have a winner. More world champs training at those 2 places than anywhere else on East Coast.

But Lloyd is maybe America's first hope for producing a best in the world as a BJJ coach.
1/18/13 7:10 PM
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And we want the rape network you run to end Lloyd


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