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11/29/12 8:45 PM
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Co Worker started this diet about a month ago. He says its great, that he is leaner than ever but still keeping his strength. Anyone have any experience with it?
11/30/12 10:41 AM
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Just read up about it. So it's basically an ultra low carb induction phase ala atkins, then continue ulta low carb but pig out post evening workout. I mean, whatever works for you, but the binge eating stuff has never been that great for me.
11/30/12 3:31 PM
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Didn't work for me I experiment a lot but this was a poor outcome.

11/30/12 3:55 PM
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So from what I've just read by googling it, the diet is:

1. Low carb all day till workout (less than 30g carbs)
2. Post workout it's high-carb, eat whatever you want?

What I didn't see is on non-workout days is it low carb as well? or do you "backload" on those days too?

Seems to be just a different form of the traditional timed-carb keto diets that have been around for awhile. There's The Anabolic diet by Mauro DiPasquale and Lyle Mcdonalds's Ketogenic Diet book that are variations on timed-carb diets and those have been out since the 90's.

Guess I'm just trying to figure out what's new about this version...

Is it really just "keto till workout-then have your carbs till bed" on workout days? Or is there some secret in his book (that costs $89!!!) that I'm missing?


11/30/12 3:57 PM
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Edit nevermind, his book is "only" $57 now... $89 was the old price :)
11/30/12 6:52 PM
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herwil10 - So from what I've just read by googling it, the diet is:

1. Low carb all day till workout (less than 30g carbs)
2. Post workout it's high-carb, eat whatever you want?

What I didn't see is on non-workout days is it low carb as well? or do you "backload" on those days too?

Seems to be just a different form of the traditional timed-carb keto diets that have been around for awhile. There's The Anabolic diet by Mauro DiPasquale and Lyle Mcdonalds's Ketogenic Diet book that are variations on timed-carb diets and those have been out since the 90's.

Guess I'm just trying to figure out what's new about this version...

Is it really just "keto till workout-then have your carbs till bed" on workout days? Or is there some secret in his book (that costs $89!!!) that I'm missing?



Non workout days according to the limited googling I did are still low carb with a single late day meal. This article has a good breakdown. (note this is page 3 of the article)

http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/carb-backloading-to-get-lean?page=3
11/30/12 9:36 PM
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Thanks that article explains it better than the one I found.
12/5/12 11:31 AM
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There was another thread about this a while ago. This technique seems to be nothing speacial IMO. Don't waste money buying a book about it.

TAKU

12/5/12 3:27 PM
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I find what works really well is low-carb during the day, normal meal + optional little bit of sweets in the evening.
12/5/12 6:53 PM
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I think that article I posted has really everything you need to know. I don't need 200 pages of why if the how is a page. ;)
12/6/12 11:08 AM
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I bet if your buddy stopped carb backloading and replaced those carbs with fats, he would see much quicker results.
12/7/12 8:40 AM
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Jorx - I find what works really well is low-carb during the day, normal meal + optional little bit of sweets in the evening.

be careful with this "in the evening" statement. carbohydrates "overload" leads to inhibition of hGH and insulin resistence.  

5/8/13 7:07 PM
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ArthurKnoqOut - 
Jorx - I find what works really well is low-carb during the day, normal meal + optional little bit of sweets in the evening.

be careful with this "in the evening" statement. carbohydrates "overload" leads to inhibition of hGH and insulin resistence.  


I think that's why he says to ONLY eat high GI carbs after. The idea is to get a huge insulin surge (if that's the right way to put it) to transport glucose to muscle, but by the time you're asleep it won't interfere with GH production.
He speaks a lot about glucose transporters.
I recall it making sense when I read it, but don't remember specifics.

I wouldn't pay for the book, but interesting read.

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