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12/6/12 12:15 AM
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Georges St-Pierre wants to meet Anderson Silva in a superfight, according to his coach.

"He told me yes," said Firas Zahabi. "But I think there's a lot to be negotiated. I don't know much more than that."

St-Pierre is back training after a holiday following his successful welterweight title defence last month against Carlos Condit at UFC 154 in Montreal.

"Georges is doing a more relaxed form of training," said Zahabi. "After a fight like that [against Condit], he needs time off. He's just doing more playful types of training. But Georges' hobby is martial arts, so for him it's a pleasure what he's doing."

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12/6/12 12:21 AM
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In other words, expect GSP's next fight to be against Hendricks. Phone Post
12/6/12 12:23 AM
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Anderson makes way more sense than Hendricks.  You lose to hendricks you're career at 170 is devastated.  You lose to Anderson, you just made alot of money and can now continue your career at 170 without being asked about anderson everyday.

12/6/12 12:27 AM
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Not trying to knock either guy but after a war like GSP v. Condit both guys need to take several months off sparing.

Even if they feel fine in 30 days, their brain needs more like 120+ days to be 100% healed from suffering these minor concussions.

The whole dfw '3x a year' is great but when you have real wars like that you can't do it that often safely.
12/6/12 12:29 AM
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Anderson makes way more sense than Hendricks.  You lose to hendricks you're career at 170 is devastated.  You lose to Anderson, you just made alot of money and can now continue your career at 170 without being asked about anderson everyday.


I think GSP losing to Anderson could be career ending, injury wise. i dont know why these discussions go on. The difference in wieght and style is crazy.
12/6/12 12:29 AM
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DFW, get these guys to sign already! It's killing me inside.
12/6/12 12:30 AM
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MagSlim - Not trying to knock either guy but after a war like GSP v. Condit both guys need to take several months off sparing.

Even if they feel fine in 30 days, their brain needs more like 120+ days to be 100% healed from suffering these minor concussions.

The whole dfw '3x a year' is great but when you have real wars like that you can't do it that often safely.
Takes a lot longer than 120 days for a brain to fully recover from any trauma.

That being said I'm very interested to see how this gets spun into gsp ducking Silva. Phone Post
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Anderson makes way more sense than Hendricks.  You lose to hendricks you're career at 170 is devastated.  You lose to Anderson, you just made alot of money and can now continue your career at 170 without being asked about anderson everyday.


I think GSP losing to Anderson could be career ending, injury wise. i dont know why these discussions go on. The difference in wieght and style is crazy.

 

can anderson hurt GSP physically to the point where he cant perform the same again? unlikely. 

 

Can Anderson hurt him mentally to the point where he cant perform the same agin?  likely.

The latter is what he's afraid of.  Anderson first mind fucks you in the cage and then beats your ass.

12/6/12 12:39 AM
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*eagerly awaits the usual crew insisting GSP never said he wants the fight and he obviously doesn't want it, so Anderson should fight Jones even though neither guy wants to fight the other*

"Can Anderson hurt him mentally to the point where he cant perform the same agin?  likely."

How did you reach the conclusion that's likely? Marquardt, Henderson, VItor, Sonnen, Maia, Leben, Franklin, etc, seem much the same or better to me, barring any declines due to normal wear and tear and aage. Maybe you could say Forrest but he seems to have other issues. 

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^ GSP doesnt take losses very well... last time he needed therapy.  Why do you think he's so hesitant in fighting Anderson?

from a business perspective it makes all the sense in the world.  BJ penn became an even bigger draw after his drubbing from GSP... so really there's no financial downside to the fight.  and the upside is huge.

there is no other reason than being scared of what's gonna happen and not being able to mentally deal with it.  Even his fans are scraed shitless of the fight.

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Anderson makes way more sense than Hendricks.  You lose to hendricks you're career at 170 is devastated.  You lose to Anderson, you just made alot of money and can now continue your career at 170 without being asked about anderson everyday.


What? How is it devasting losing to a guy who's beating Top 10 WW's left and right? No shame whatsoever.

 

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Not surprised, just comes down to making the money such that GSP wants it. Phone Post
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OnlyTheStrongSurvive - Not surprised, just comes down to making the money such that GSP wants it. Phone Post
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^ GSP doesnt take losses very well... last time he needed therapy.  Why do you think he's so hesitant in fighting Anderson?

from a business perspective it makes all the sense in the world.  BJ penn became an even bigger draw after his drubbing from GSP... so really there's no financial downside to the fight.  and the upside is huge.

there is no other reason than being scared of what's gonna happen and not being able to mentally deal with it.  Even his fans are scraed shitless of the fight.


Okay... but he just said he wants the fight.
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"^ GSP doesnt take losses very well... last time he needed therapy.  Why do you think he's so hesitant in fighting Anderson?"

He came back strong from both losses, though. He seems to learn rather than lose confidence.

I'm sure no fighter wants to get TKO'd, I'm just saying I don't think GSP would be in bad shape physically *or* mentally even a day or two after an Anderson stoppage. And imo he *would* have some success against Anderson at least, and that might actually help his confidence regardless of the end result. No one at 170 is on Anderson's level.

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Sorry but its a dumb move considering where he in his career.

It might be a good business move for the UFC because it would give the promotion some relevance it desperately needs and what will hopefully sipple through in the FOX relationship and general interest of the sport. Its a good move for Silva because he get to get a reasonable easy fight against a severely undersides opponent, earn a lot of money and retire with the firm GOAT monniker ( and i believe he will retire if he beats GSP...i dont see him considering the JBJ/Cormier fight then anymore) and it will reasonable good new for GSP bank account because the fight will make a big amount of money.

 

But GSP will lose ( even though i am a big fan its just the reality because of the size dfference), it will cost a lot of time, it will damage his legacy and brand and it will make his future very insecure since he might have trouble projecting dominance as middleweight (somewhere he would need to stay for at least two or three fights after Silva considering the process of going up in weight in case of GSP).

 

Gsp should fight Hendricks and Diaz first. If he beats both of them then he should start with the process of moving up and taking the Silva fight.He can then let Rory have his time in the welterweight division and can move down or retire when Rory eventually moves up.

 

I hope Firas will be able to convince GSP to wait. He is sane enough to do so.

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Anderson makes way more sense than Hendricks.  You lose to hendricks you're career at 170 is devastated.  You lose to Anderson, you just made alot of money and can now continue your career at 170 without being asked about anderson everyday.


You lose to hendricks you're career at 170 is devastated.

 

Why? GSP lost his title to Serra and it didn't devastate his.

 

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It comes down to waiting till Silva is showing signs of slowing down and then he will want Silva to drop to 170 and be completely drained. When that happens, that's when they will fight.
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Anderson makes way more sense than Hendricks.  You lose to hendricks you're career at 170 is devastated.  You lose to Anderson, you just made alot of money and can now continue your career at 170 without being asked about anderson everyday.


What? How is it devasting losing to a guy who's beating Top 10 WW's left and right? No shame whatsoever.

 


not about shame.  just like it wasnt shameful when hughes lost to GSP.... losing to Anderson youre still champ youre career at 170 is intact.  Losing to hendricks your not the champ anymore.  That's devastating to his career compared to a loss against anderson (which we've seen with BJ Penn losing to GSP only made him an even bigger ppv draw - and the oppossite happened when he lost to frankie edgar).

from a business perspective a fight against Anderson is like a free roll with a gauranteed jackpot.

 

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man some of you people are way too dramatic about this.  gsp isn't going to die in the cage with anderson for fucks sake.  anderson has fought much lesser competition and those guys all survived. 

 

if he loses then he loses and moves on with a shitload of money and a lot of respect for fighting the bigger man.

if he wins then he gets everything.  the fame, the money, and the legacy of winning the most widely watch mma fight of all time. 

i think there is more risk for anderson.  anderson CAN lose this fight.  if he does then his amazing legacy will have a bit of tarnish on it.  he is the guy picking the fight with gsp.  he has to win. 

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Anderson makes way more sense than Hendricks.  You lose to hendricks you're career at 170 is devastated.  You lose to Anderson, you just made alot of money and can now continue your career at 170 without being asked about anderson everyday.


You lose to hendricks you're career at 170 is devastated.

 

Why? GSP lost his title to Serra and it didn't devastate his.

 

Cindy

 

GSP wasnt making 4 mil a fight and didnt have 8 figures in sponsorships back then.  Im saying comparison in to losing to Anderson, a loss to Hendricks would be devastating.

 

for few reasons:

the Anderson fight will only elevate GSP's career - win or lose - as witnessed by BJ Penn becoming an even bigger ppv draw after getting beat down by GSP.

Unlike Serra, Hendricks is a real top contender... meaning if GSP loses to him he may not be able to get his belt back (like hughes when he lost to GSP).  Now am i saying his career will be devastated period? no, im saying in comparison to losing to Anderson it would be devastating if he lost to hendricks instead.

the anderson fight is a free roll compared to the hendricks fight.

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Wow this would be exciting. Anderson, who is an instinctive phenomenon, vs GSP, who has some of the greatest tacticians in the sport in his corner. GSP wins because of his ability, but remains champ because of his ability to follow gameplans that minimize risk and maximize his own advantages. (which, incidentally, he also gets criticized for). This would be interesting.
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^ GSP doesnt take losses very well... last time he needed therapy.  Why do you think he's so hesitant in fighting Anderson?

from a business perspective it makes all the sense in the world.  BJ penn became an even bigger draw after his drubbing from GSP... so really there's no financial downside to the fight.  and the upside is huge.

there is no other reason than being scared of what's gonna happen and not being able to mentally deal with it.  Even his fans are scraed shitless of the fight.


I have to agree. Of all fans, GSP has the worst BY far. A bunch or self-righteous hypocrites with badly elaborate agendas.

They both want the fight. Make it happen! The size difference is there but great champions won't be stopped by that. And it's definitely not an huge difference. The real difference IMO is Anderson is a much more creative and intelligent fighter whereas GSP being very intelligent himself doesn't have as many tools in his arsenal as does Anderson.

The fight has no real downsides to GSP and he has a chance to win and make rivers of money while doing so. He thinks the fight is there forever but many have made that mistake before. He wants to wait for Anderson a little bit, maybe when he's a little slower to compensate for what he thinks is a size disadvantage but all of a sudden Anderson retires and this isn't a boxer, he's a millionaire MMA fighter with a VERY (initial estimate) successful chain of gyms starting up which means flashing money won't bring the older past prime Anderson back.

If that happens how much you want to bet all these GSP fans who didn't want to fight will come out of the woodwork calling out Anderson Silva for ducking GSP? They are all green karma - keep it.
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Also, BJ Penn is a effing WARRIOR
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its a much safer move for georges than facing marquart.


vs. anderson all he has to do is survive without getting submitted or KO'd and based on ufc-brand policy he gets the decision.

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