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12/6/12 12:38 PM
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I keep seeing the fanbois saying rory is just quiet, not cocky or arrogant..orly? read this...this 23 kid is telling this 34 yr old legend that what he believes in is not real and tries to give bj a lesson on what he should be focusing on....

 

SEATTLE -- Rory MacDonald stared straight ahead, his delivery startlingly cold.

"I think (B.J. Penn) is fighting for the wrong reasons, and it's going to get him hurt," he said bluntly. The follow-up question was too obvious, he knew he left it out there. Why exactly is Penn fighting for the wrong reasons? The answer was simple.

"Because I'm fighting to hurt him. I'm not fighting for someone's opinion."

MacDonald went on to explain his point. "He's fighting for status, something that isn't real. People's opinions, he wants to change people's opinions. Maybe he doesn't realize that those things are not real.

"Opinions are valid. But the status of someone, someone places a status over your head, like B.J. being a legend. Now that they're not saying it, he's upset about it. Maybe he should've learned that it's fickle."

MacDonald's words are completely rational, even if they don't sound like the words of a 23-year-old "next big thing" are expected to sound. But then again, most 23 year olds wouldn't be in line to fight Penn in first place, especially after the old-school champ retired last October.

Penn fully admits, languishing on the sidelines while the public marginalized his career eventually just became too much to take.

"After you put over ten years into something, I want to be remembered for it. Doesn't everybody?" Penn replied in bright spirits. "It's good. Sticks and stones.

"[Rory] is like me before. That's what I would say. I would say exactly what he said. ‘Oh, he's fighting to be remembered, I'm fighting to hurt him.' That sounds like B.J. Penn a couple years ago.

"I think that he thinks that I'm 45 years old, not 33 years old," Penn continued. "I don't know who told him that I'm 50. I don't know what's going on."

Penn's personal motivations may be his own, but there's no question the former two-division champion, who jovially owned the room during Wedesday's UFC on FOX 5 open workouts, is still adored by the public. He sees himself in an entirely different light than the fighter who was battered by Nick Diaz last year. And while he won't commit to this comeback fight being anything more than a one-off, his words carry an optimism that lends themselves toward another shot at welterweight glory, but only if the pieces can come together properly.

"I'm almost 34 now, and I don't see the point in eating chicken salad and training six hours off of that," he explained. "I always thought, and I always knew, if I prepared myself properly at 170 pounds that I could do well at 170 pounds. I've never walked into the ring and had a guy just wipe me right out. It's never, ever happened. And so if I do it properly, I really feel like I could be a force in the division."

Penn's renewed sense of motivation is exactly why he now brushes off MacDonald's threats. Penn believes his young opponent is underestimating his chances on Saturday, and as the wily veteran so aptly puts it, "I love every second of it."

12/6/12 12:43 PM
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So... you clearly didn't read the entire article or you would've noticed BJ saying that he would've said the same thing in Rory's position. And then, of course... you'd have been embarrassed about getting butthurt and starting a thread about it.
12/6/12 12:43 PM
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I agree w/ both. The breaking point will be the 1st round. If BJ can survive Rory's onslaught without gassing, he may have a chance. BJ has to know he's giving up strength AND cardio advantages.
12/6/12 12:43 PM
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Sounds like he is perfectly logical and correct.

Is this what you're reduced to? You've moved on from the steroid and ducking accusations, now you're saying he is arrogant because he said status and opinions are fickle?

12/6/12 12:44 PM
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what about that is cocky?  

12/6/12 12:48 PM
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what about that is cocky?  


This.

 

Goku seriously man, if you aren't paid to rag on Rory and Silva you need fucking serious help.

12/6/12 12:50 PM
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12/6/12 12:54 PM
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Goku is really giving the other trolls a run for their money as the worst poster on the UG.

12/6/12 12:55 PM
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RileyPust - So... you clearly didn't read the entire article or you would've noticed BJ saying that he would've said the same thing in Rory's position. And then, of course... you'd have been embarrassed about getting butthurt and starting a thread about it.

1) i never said bj wasnt cocky at times

 

2) bj saying he was going to hurt rory is one ting...giving bj a lecture on what he thinks is not real as if he is some enlightened philosopher is another

12/6/12 12:56 PM
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orcus - 

Sounds like he is perfectly logical and correct.

Is this what you're reduced to? You've moved on from the steroid and ducking accusations, now you're saying he is arrogant because he said status and opinions are fickle?


perfectly logical? he shouldnt concern himself with his status? which is what drives nearly every great athlete in history?

 

and to proclaim this in such a condescending and all-knowing manner? rory's not saying it as his opinion, hes saying this as FACT...

 

r u really this obtuse?

12/6/12 1:00 PM
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RileyPust - So... you clearly didn't read the entire article or you would've noticed BJ saying that he would've said the same thing in Rory's position. And then, of course... you'd have been embarrassed about getting butthurt and starting a thread about it.

1) i never said bj wasnt cocky at times

 

2) bj saying he was going to hurt rory is one ting...giving bj a lecture on what he thinks is not real as if he is some enlightened philosopher is another


BWAHAHAHA!

 

I love BJ and don;t like Rory at all but this is just pathetic. How is Rory anwering a follow up question in an interview = giving BJ a lecture in your demeneted little brain?

12/6/12 1:03 PM
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gokudumbass sees what he wants to see.  

12/6/12 1:04 PM
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Rory = the new Bones. Young, talented, hated.
12/6/12 1:05 PM
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RileyPust - So... you clearly didn't read the entire article or you would've noticed BJ saying that he would've said the same thing in Rory's position. And then, of course... you'd have been embarrassed about getting butthurt and starting a thread about it.

1) i never said bj wasnt cocky at times

 

2) bj saying he was going to hurt rory is one ting...giving bj a lecture on what he thinks is not real as if he is some enlightened philosopher is another


BWAHAHAHA!

 

I love BJ and don;t like Rory at all but this is just pathetic. How is Rory anwering a follow up question in an interview = giving BJ a lecture in your demeneted little brain?


learn to read dumbass....obvious status and your name in history is what drives many of the greatest atheletes in history like michael jordan...

 

if rory had an ounce of humility he could easily say that he simply has a different view on things, but he is acting like he is enlightened, that he knows something bj doesnt...this 23 year old kid is basically lecturing bj on reality...

 

"He's fighting for status, something that isn't real." 

"Maybe he doesn't realize that those things are not real."

"Maybe he should've learned that it's fickle.""

 

are you really going to tell me that saying these things is not extremely condescending and arrogant?

 

could u imagine saying these things to bj in person? of course you cant because you know it would be totally disrespectful...

 

rory can have his opinion that legendary status is not important...thats fine, but it turns into arrogance when he believes his opinion is the correct one and that others that do not share his view are unenlightened...i guess its a sign of immaturity, which is why i can understand u and orcus dont understand the naivete of his words...but its like the saying go, the more you know, the more you know you dont know...he thinks he has everything figutred out but hes just a 23 year old kid...

12/6/12 1:14 PM
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lol @ this idiot.

Goku, tell us: If you had to characterize fan opinion and status among fans as "real" or "fickle", which would you choose?

12/6/12 1:18 PM
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lol @ this idiot.

Goku, tell us: If you had to characterize fan opinion and status among fans as "real" or "fickle", which would you choose?


of course fans are fickle tard, but does that, in and of itself, totally obliterate the notion that its ok for athletes to drive to make a name for themselves (which is the lesson rory is trying to teach bj)? of course not...

 

12/6/12 1:40 PM
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Rory's opinion is BJ is fighting for the wrong reasons.  he was asked and he answered during an interview.  why would that piss you off?  i know the reason, but do you?  

12/6/12 1:46 PM
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Goku makes a thread with the assumption that it will convince everyone Rory is cocky...

Everyone on thread says what Rory said is not cocky at all and Goku is an idiot....

Just another typical Goku thread. Enjoy the vote downs.

12/6/12 1:52 PM
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BJ cracks me up more and more as the years go by. He's a funny mofo...and the ballsiest fighter evah! Phone Post
12/6/12 1:55 PM
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12/6/12 1:59 PM
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Goku u must start more threads than anyone in the history of this forum 99.9% of them are to put someone down
12/6/12 2:07 PM
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orcus - 

Sounds like he is perfectly logical and correct.

Is this what you're reduced to? You've moved on from the steroid and ducking accusations, now you're saying he is arrogant because he said status and opinions are fickle?


He also insinuated that there was something suspect about Rory getting cut sparring. Goku is a sad little fanboi.
12/6/12 2:26 PM
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Belcherz_Twister - I agree w/ both. The breaking point will be the 1st round. If BJ can survive Rory's onslaught without gassing, he may have a chance. BJ has to know he's giving up strength AND cardio advantages.

Wait what? That should be reversed. If Rory can withstand BJ in the first, then his chances improve with each passing minute of the fight.
12/6/12 2:34 PM
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what about that is cocky?  


This.

 

Goku seriously man, if you aren't paid to rag on Rory and Silva you need fucking serious help.

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12/6/12 2:42 PM
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Fighters fight for different shit. Some fight for money, some fight for status, some for personal satisfaction of accomplishing goals, some just like to bang bro.

His opinion is wrong because nobody fights for the wrong reason, but its his opinion and we need cocky young fighters like Rory as much as we need humble vets. Keeps the game dynamic. Phone Post

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