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12/9/12 9:35 PM
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TzTinkle - Marquez had great timing the whole night...it was bound to happen. Marquez counters are always on point
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12/9/12 10:36 PM
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There is no steroid controversy. JMM has changed his physique to match his style. He hardly looks like a guy on roids. More like a guy that's getting heavier with age and has increased his strength training as well. It's not surprising someone was finished in this fight. Both fighters wanted a decisive victory for the 4th fight and there was a bit more risk taking. If JMM doesn't slip that jab, he gets stood up and eats Manny's left and probably gets ko'd himself. Roach believed more head movement would keep Manny safe enough to increase the aggressiveness, it didn't. End of story. Phone Post
12/9/12 10:52 PM
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tulistooth - his new coach used to run a huge roid ring for top athletes, dimed them for the govt, changed his name, and now has transformed JMM into sergio martinez inside of a year. i'll buy whatever horse meat he's selling
I agree with the sentiment, but he's been with JMM for a while now, so he's not new. Also works with Usain Bolt btw. Phone Post
12/9/12 10:54 PM
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FirstScratch - There is no steroid controversy. JMM has changed his physique to match his style. He hardly looks like a guy on roids. More like a guy that's getting heavier with age and has increased his strength training as well. It's not surprising someone was finished in this fight. Both fighters wanted a decisive victory for the 4th fight and there was a bit more risk taking. If JMM doesn't slip that jab, he gets stood up and eats Manny's left and probably gets ko'd himself. Roach believed more head movement would keep Manny safe enough to increase the aggressiveness, it didn't. End of story. Phone Post
I would ask what the advantage of having an admitted roid provider in your camp would be if its not to do what he does best? Especially one trying to conceal his true identity. Phone Post
12/9/12 11:01 PM
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4 years ago:



JMM Now:


Pacquiao Now:

 


These pics don't tell you anything. They are all weigh-in pics where the fighters are super-dehydrated. Posting post rehydration pics would by much more meaningful.
They also fought at a lower weight class so they better be a lot bigger. If Manny isn't bigger it's his own damn fault for not getting there he has the best trainers in the world. Phone Post
12/10/12 12:20 AM
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Let's not pretend that a great many of strength and conditioning coaches are strangers to PED's. Heredia was caught up in a scandal, yes, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a great deal of knowledge to help an athlete make clean gains. We're not talking about guys at the local gym giving out some bro science advice while peddling winstrol. Listen to Conte sometime, steroids aside, the man has a ton of knowledge about human performance, and what it takes to get maximum results. It's quite plausible Heredia has developed a clean program that works great for JMM. Phone Post
12/10/12 4:40 AM
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FirstScratch - Let's not pretend that a great many of strength and conditioning coaches are strangers to PED's. Heredia was caught up in a scandal, yes, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a great deal of knowledge to help an athlete make clean gains. We're not talking about guys at the local gym giving out some bro science advice while peddling winstrol. Listen to Conte sometime, steroids aside, the man has a ton of knowledge about human performance, and what it takes to get maximum results. It's quite plausible Heredia has developed a clean program that works great for JMM. Phone Post
Seriously doubt this

Heredia is the guy that believes that everyone's juiced. He's the guy that truly believes that the only way athletes can compete in a world class level is to juice. To quote him "the difference between 10.0 secs and 9.7 secs (in the 100 meters) is the drugs"

Could he make a clean program? No doubt. Will he? L.O.L Phone Post
12/10/12 4:54 AM
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They will fight again, a draw between them, two wins for PAC man, a k o for jmm Phone Post
12/10/12 9:40 AM
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