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1/3/13 9:41 PM
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NeoSpartan - Come back tonight we're gonna get a hug circle going, wiggy is going to play us some Kumbayah, and i believe Taku is bringing us his world famous cheesecake.

The hell I am. I'm putting AC/DC and Judas Priest.
1/3/13 10:04 PM
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Judas Priest + cheesecake = WIN!
1/3/13 11:10 PM
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This is probably considered sacrilegious but I think Dan John is one of the most overrated writers on there. Once you take away his "aw shucks" persona it's not clear why he's held in such high esteem.
1/3/13 11:36 PM
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Wiggy - 
NeoSpartan - Come back tonight we're gonna get a hug circle going, wiggy is going to play us some Kumbayah, and i believe Taku is bringing us his world famous cheesecake.

The hell I am. I'm putting AC/DC and Judas Priest.

Bro you can't spell Kumbayah without...

"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!"


1/4/13 12:14 AM
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NeoSpartan - Come back tonight we're gonna get a hug circle going, wiggy is going to play us some Kumbayah, and i believe Taku is bringing us his world famous cheesecake.

The hell I am. I'm putting AC/DC and Judas Priest.

Bro you can't spell Kumbayah without...

"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!"




 

Someone seems to have invited Ozzy Osbourne to a Martha Stewart party.

1/4/13 8:32 AM
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Chocolate Shatner - Judas Priest + cheesecake = WIN!

I have serious levels of concurrence with this.
1/4/13 5:43 PM
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NeoSpartan - Come back tonight we're gonna get a hug circle going, wiggy is going to play us some Kumbayah, and i believe Taku is bringing us his world famous cheesecake.

The hell I am. I'm putting AC/DC and Judas Priest.

Bro you can't spell Kumbayah without...

"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!"




 

Someone seems to have invited Ozzy Osbourne to a Martha Stewart party.


the s&c forum we're a metal family ... if I have a son i'm naming him max. a daughter i'm naming her treble-volume.
1/4/13 8:12 PM
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^^You won't have to - you just gotta teach 'em what's cool.

My daughter (known as "Mini-Wiggy" to my Facebook peeps) is 12 and digs what's cool. We drive down the road in my '66 Stang together singing Twister Sister. AC/DC is one of her favorite bands. And don't get me started on the fit she threw one night when I made her go to bed on time when a Ted Nugent concert was on TV...(even if I *did* DVR it!).
1/4/13 11:01 PM
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Wiggy - 
NeoSpartan - Come back tonight we're gonna get a hug circle going, wiggy is going to play us some Kumbayah, and i believe Taku is bringing us his world famous cheesecake.

The hell I am. I'm putting AC/DC and Judas Priest.

Bro you can't spell Kumbayah without...

"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!"




 

Someone seems to have invited Ozzy Osbourne to a Martha Stewart party.


the s&c forum we're a metal family ... if I have a son i'm naming him max. a daughter i'm naming her treble-volume.

His family.....


goes all the way....


to 11.



YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!
1/6/13 4:42 AM
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train up a child in the way they should go, and when they are old they will BE BRUTAL *deathlok deathlok deathlok*


I'd like to point out some dudes that I feel are worth checking out.

Chad Wesley Smith, Nick Horton

Explosive Squat-
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/an_explosive_squat_is_a_bigger_squat


Improving O-lifts
http://articles.elitefts.com/training-articles/improving-the-olympic-lifts-for-non-olympic-lifters-rach-add-picslinks/


Another good dude is Nick Horton, his Zen and Weightlifting page changed my entire perspective on o-lifting and even fighting. Learning to relax more in both has made a huge difference. I started making my snatch feel "easy". Highly recommend him as well. Thanks to Becca for introducing me to him through her site.
1/7/13 5:09 PM
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I used to sit in a cube like a donkey for 10 hours a day. Hip thrusts help a bit in offsetting all that sitting w/ shitty posture.

I also work out in my basement and would probably not be caught dead doing those in public at the gym.

These guys have to come up with their own schtick to "differentiate" themselves and continue to gain new readers/followers. There are only so many ways you can present the basic principles of lifting before it gets repetitive. Eventually readers see the same things come up and finally decide to KISS. Phone Post
1/7/13 6:50 PM
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My son is two and he knows how to find his two favourite songs on my phone; cowboys from hell and Man on the silver mountain by Rainbow.

He loves a bit of Dio.......

I have a great video of him dancing to Blackened by Metallica at about 18mths too..... Phone Post
1/7/13 8:37 PM
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Dongbar -  I used to sit in a cube like a donkey for 10 hours a day. Hip thrusts help a bit in offsetting all that sitting w/ shitty posture.

I also work out in my basement and would probably not be caught dead doing those in public at the gym.

These guys have to come up with their own schtick to "differentiate" themselves and continue to gain new readers/followers. There are only so many ways you can present the basic principles of lifting before it gets repetitive. Eventually readers see the same things come up and finally decide to KISS. Phone Post

Ah but sometimes, re-presenting the basics is actually what is needed. Why? Because each and every day the basics and truth is being buried underneath a mountain of steaming bullshit. Hell, take a look at anything TAKU says or on Elite FTS. There was an article on there last week where Dave Tate posted some videos he did when he did his one and only seminar at Crossfit HQ.

Now, nothing on the videos is groundbreaking, nor is it complicated or controversial. Yet that article has over 100 comments, fueled by a couple of X-fit douchebags who have bought hook, line and sinker into the X-fit Kool Aid.

The fact is, I have more respect for TAKU (who constantly keeps it very simple) and guys like Tate (who keeps it simple, seasoned with 1001 variations of words that would make a sailor blush) than any funky movement bullshit artist, regardless of the degrees or certifications touted by said BS artist.

Now, does that mean that I 100% agree with TAKU or Tate or Rippetoe or any of the others that I respect? No. But the disagreements are respected disagreements, and ones that I can respect as perhaps applying to people other than myself.

For the Internet Trainer Douchebag, I would quote the following from Harvey Dorfman, a noted sports psychologist:

A Winner would rather be respected than liked, although he tries for both.

A Loser would rather be liked than respected, even if the price of being liked is mild contempt.
1/8/13 8:35 AM
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Yet that article has over 100 comments, fueled by a couple of X-fit douchebags who have bought hook, line and sinker into the X-fit Kool Aid.

LOL - I saw that.  (My buddy Andy Hepler - who commented on the thread a bit - tried to get me to chime in with my two cents, but the fucktardery was already at such levels that I didn't feel like wasting my time.)  But the Xfitters have moved on - now they're attacking Tim Ferriss on his Facebook page for linking to/recommending Dave Draper's Top Squat apparatus.  Apparently, Tim has flexibility issues due to shoulder reconstruction surgery.  Before he mentioned the surgery publicly on the thread, an Xfitter was the 2nd to comment on the link, telling him to "...squat like a man. #crossfit"

 

1/8/13 4:32 PM
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Yeah, I commented twice on the thread, but just backed off when I saw what the trolls were doing.
1/8/13 10:35 PM
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Well, you get trolls in whatever ideology you follow. My favorite are the Joel Jamieson and Mark Rippetoe trolls. Usually what happens is somebody who doesn't know anything about anything learns something from a guru, system or whatever and thinks they are all knowing and if it didn't come from said guru it's crap and go around criticizing anybody doing anything different even though it may (or may not) be viable, but they can't tell the difference because in reality they don't know anything. Like the bjj blue belt who suddenly believes they are the god of bjj. What we called it in the army was knowing enough to get somebody killed.

You find that people who really know what they are talking about know that there are a lot of ways to skin the cat and can understand how various coaches may be doing things... therefore it makes sense, it is a method, not THE method. The thing is even most coaches know only a single way that has worked (or not) for their trainees but never bother to learn any thing else because it works most of the time. A good coach knows that different ways may work for different people. But there aren't many coaches like that out there....
1/9/13 7:26 PM
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At least Rippetoe tries to counteract some of his trolls...

"Thanks for the kind words, but if Starting Strength is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago."

...

"You are right to be wary. There is much bullshit. Be wary of me too, because I may be wrong. Make up your own mind after you evaluate all the evidence and the logic."

...

"I don't even like Greg Glassman. I don't have a cult like allegiance to the guy. I really don't like him. He's too hard to get on the phone and he doesn't drink my kind of scotch."
1/11/13 2:41 PM
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Mark is a great guy. It's not usually the system or the guru, its the nut swingers that are the problem. Rip has done more for functional weight training than probably anyone else in the past 30 years. But I certainly don't think he is infallible.
1/12/13 10:51 PM
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I will add though, some "gurus" do more than others to enable the nut swingers. For example, as you not, Rippetoe and some others expressely state that they are not the end all be all. Meanwhile, a few (Glassman, cough, cough) either do nothing to discourage the view when newbie nut swingers start mouthing off, or, usually with the view that it is good marketing, they passively (and sometimes not so passively) encourage the view that the guru knows everything.

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