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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

Yes, you were thrilled to give up your self defense rights, and your free speech rights. Congratulations. And you're unselfish and caring because you look a raped woman in the face tell her if she was smart she should have called a police officer.

America has plenty of gun-controlled liberal utopias. Like, Chicago and DC. You can spot them by the huge number of bodies being carried out every single day. Fortunately those gun bans are being overturned by the courts left and right. And states are deregulating gun-ownership. And, of course, crime has dropped as a result.

The threat of Obama, and his power-to-the-government tools wanting to take our rights away has resulted in huge surges in gun sales and concealed carry applications. Millions of new people buying guns, and carrying guns.

Yet the anti-rights submissives can't ever point to a corresponding spike in gun crime, or violent crime, or any crime. Weird huh? All people like you can do is point at Detroit (New Mogadishu), a liberal utopia war zone, and suggest that the rest of America should be the same.

No thanks. We'll keep our rights. We are not owned by politicians, we are free people.

Hmmm, horrible thing is ignorance...
You first claim Australians have given away their right to self defence and free speech and then you end your post with this absolute gem - 'No thanks. We'll keep our rights. We are not owned by politicians, we are free people'

You paint all the deaths from guns in the U.S how you wish but the rest of us in this world just sit here shaking our heads.

Carry on....
12/31/12 4:36 AM
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RentedMule - I'm sure even the biggest gun haters can realize that simply "taking away the guns" is a terrible idea.

Basically every law-abiding citizen who registers their weapons and lives within the laws of society will lose their ability to defend themselves.

Obviously the people who are robbing convenience stores and doing home invasions aren't using weapons that are registered in their names, and they certainly won't be playing good samaritan and taking their hot .38 special (serial numbers filed off) down to the police station to be "properly disposed of".

The war on drugs has wreaked havoc on our country and cost countless lives and and an immeasurable amount of taxpayer dollars. A war on guns has the potential to be much worse.

The scary part is the government has made so much off of the war on drugs that another bigger, better way to siphon our money might be just what they want.

In short, if you're a smart, hard-working person who values their lives and property, and cares about those around them, you may want to consider buying a couple of unregistered weapons :)
Didn't that psycho kid use his mums registered semi-auto rifle?

If she'd only been allowed to have a sensible pistol for defending her home (arguable IMO if even THAT would be necessary with tighter gun laws) then he may of only been able to shoot 4 or 5 children. Phone Post

Finally a comment that actually makes some sense.

 

You will never be able to ban guns in America (at least not in certain States). I do not see that being a problem. I personal respect the fact that people want to feel safe,shoot for sport or hunt.

 

But how is it possible that banning semi automatic weapons (why the hell would you need those as a normal citizen) is such a uphill battle.

 

There is no sane debate possible because the loonies are once again hijacking the debate. Feels my soul with dread.


Except that he didnt use a semi automatic rifle during his rampage (except for a single kill, his mother at home.) He used two pistols. They found the rifle in the back seat of his car.
Ok fine, he used his mothers 3 registered fire arms to kill her and all those children.

I was replying to the comment that implied only unregistered weapons in the hands of criminals were being used to harm innocent people.

Fact is with so many households bristling with firearms, registered or otherwise will end in a higher rate of shooting deaths than an environment where firearms have been restricted and are therefore less readily available. Phone Post
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sackattack3323 - Are people so fucking naive to think that if the govt makes guns illegal people will abide by this law? So after hundreds of Years of guns being produced a law will make them go away. All this will do is make the innocent more at Rick and the criminal more dangerous. The innocent law biding citizen will be the one giving up the guns not the criminals.

NYC has probably the strictest gun laws in the country. Guess what? People still carry and shoot them and risk going to jail mandatory for a few years. The law doesn't stop anything. Phone Post
Oh noes! The innocent will be more at Rick!!




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12/31/12 5:25 AM
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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.

12/31/12 5:59 AM
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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 

12/31/12 6:27 AM
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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 


Comparing the brutality of mass shooting with a sport ? Can you name any other gun brandishing mass murderer than Bryant ? He would have killed them all with a chainsaw or knife..you 'suspect' ? The rest of the world should STFU ?

Embarrassing from start to finish.
12/31/12 6:51 AM
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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 

Lol - this guy.

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12/31/12 8:07 AM
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RentedMule - I'm sure even the biggest gun haters can realize that simply "taking away the guns" is a terrible idea.

Basically every law-abiding citizen who registers their weapons and lives within the laws of society will lose their ability to defend themselves.

Obviously the people who are robbing convenience stores and doing home invasions aren't using weapons that are registered in their names, and they certainly won't be playing good samaritan and taking their hot .38 special (serial numbers filed off) down to the police station to be "properly disposed of".

The war on drugs has wreaked havoc on our country and cost countless lives and and an immeasurable amount of taxpayer dollars. A war on guns has the potential to be much worse.

The scary part is the government has made so much off of the war on drugs that another bigger, better way to siphon our money might be just what they want.

In short, if you're a smart, hard-working person who values their lives and property, and cares about those around them, you may want to consider buying a couple of unregistered weapons :)
Didn't that psycho kid use his mums registered semi-auto rifle?

If she'd only been allowed to have a sensible pistol for defending her home (arguable IMO if even THAT would be necessary with tighter gun laws) then he may of only been able to shoot 4 or 5 children. Phone Post

Finally a comment that actually makes some sense.

 

You will never be able to ban guns in America (at least not in certain States). I do not see that being a problem. I personal respect the fact that people want to feel safe,shoot for sport or hunt.

 

But how is it possible that banning semi automatic weapons (why the hell would you need those as a normal citizen) is such a uphill battle.

 

There is no sane debate possible because the loonies are once again hijacking the debate. Feels my soul with dread.


Except that he didnt use a semi automatic rifle during his rampage (except for a single kill, his mother at home.) He used two pistols. They found the rifle in the back seat of his car.
Ok fine, he used his mothers 3 registered fire arms to kill her and all those children.

I was replying to the comment that implied only unregistered weapons in the hands of criminals were being used to harm innocent people.

Fact is with so many households bristling with firearms, registered or otherwise will end in a higher rate of shooting deaths than an environment where firearms have been restricted and are therefore less readily available. Phone Post

Like Chicago, it just had its 500th killing for the year.
Gun control at its best!

I was safer in Iraq during the war.
12/31/12 8:16 AM
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This thread has a lot of posts, WFA.
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Both sides of the latest gun controversy are clueless.

People dont need assault rifles to protect themselves and banning guns wont stop people from killing others.

Im 41 years old. No one shot up schools when I was a kid. Kids never feared something like that happening. Guns were just as prevalent if not more when I was younger. I remember being able to hike out into the hills and shoot 22's without anyone ever complaining and I live in California, not some backwoods area. We stayed out all day til dark and our parents never had to worry about someone kidnapping us or getting molested.

Its unbelievable that people think banning guns will cure the problem. Society refuses to accept responsibility any more. Its easier to blame things like guns, music and video games.

The truth of the matter is that society as a whole has degenerated. Children are no longer taught morals and what is right and wrong. Everyone is a special unique snowflake now and gets a trophy no matter what place they come in. As a result, when something bad happens to them, they dont know how to react. Instead of simply trying again, they go apeshit. They start taking lives because no one taught them how to handle adversity and were never brought up to respect other human beings and the living.

Until Mommy and Daddy start taking responsibility for raising Damien, and making sure he doesnt turn out that way, the tragedy like the one in Connecticut will happen again and again. But hey, lets ban guns, its not like people will push hindu's in front of oncoming trains, or rednecks will blow up federal buildings with children inside or doctors will show up at schools and start stabbing children. RIGHT?!?
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I came here for the 'merica.

I am not disappoint.
12/31/12 12:31 PM
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Donald hasn't got his own religious sect has he? Just checking....
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The problem isn't with guns, it's that so many people are too quick to reach for guns to solve their problems.

People rightfully get confidence with they get a gun. It's an effective tool for self-defence and allows at least a fighting chance against aggressive and threatening humans and animals.

The problem is that this confidence translates into jackassery, and some people CREATE threats for themselves, thinking that the gun will solve the problem. Further, people act disrespectful towards others... yet demand absolute respect from them as well.

Getting rid of guns won't solve this behavior. All it will do is give power to those who are the strongest and the most prone to violence. Prison, where weapons are completely forbidden and the population is nearly under constant surveillance, easily demonstrates this.

This does not mean that something cannot be done, however. Taking Tylenol does nothing to cure the flu, but sometimes addressing the symptoms is the best you can do.
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Damasta Shonuff - Both sides of the latest gun controversy are clueless.

People dont need assault rifles to protect themselves and banning guns wont stop people from killing others.

Im 41 years old. No one shot up schools when I was a kid. Kids never feared something like that happening. Guns were just as prevalent if not more when I was younger. I remember being able to hike out into the hills and shoot 22's without anyone ever complaining and I live in California, not some backwoods area. We stayed out all day til dark and our parents never had to worry about someone kidnapping us or getting molested.

Its unbelievable that people think banning guns will cure the problem. Society refuses to accept responsibility any more. Its easier to blame things like guns, music and video games.

The truth of the matter is that society as a whole has degenerated. Children are no longer taught morals and what is right and wrong. Everyone is a special unique snowflake now and gets a trophy no matter what place they come in. As a result, when something bad happens to them, they dont know how to react. Instead of simply trying again, they go apeshit. They start taking lives because no one taught them how to handle adversity and were never brought up to respect other human beings and the living.

Until Mommy and Daddy start taking responsibility for raising Damien, and making sure he doesnt turn out that way, the tragedy like the one in Connecticut will happen again and again. But hey, lets ban guns, its not like people will push hindu's in front of oncoming trains, or rednecks will blow up federal buildings with children inside or doctors will show up at schools and start stabbing children. RIGHT?!?

Well, a couple things here.

Charles Whitman went nuts before you were born.

When you were about five, Edward Allaway killed 7 people in a university library.

When you were about eight, a 16 year old girl named Brenda Spencer killed two adults and wounded 8 kids an an elementary school.

When you were around 18, Patrick Purdy killed five kids and wounded nearly 30 at a school in Stockton.

Those are the quick "big" ones... unless, of course, you were referring to shootings happening in your immediate area. But to keep relevant, that means you live near an area recently impacted by a shooting?

At issue, however, is that somehow two broad groups of people are "clueless" and yet the examples above illustrate that the problems are ongoing. My mom was raped when she was a young girl in the early 1950s, so while some may not have had to worry about getting molested in the 70s as you hint, some "don't talk to strangers" education back then may not have been misplaced at all.

I'm 39 and grew up on USMC bases. I had my own .22LR before I was 12, but I most certainly got the talk about kidnappings and molestation back then. No doubt bad shit was happening in urban cores for a LONG time, decades before I was born. Perhaps it's spreading out, but it's by no means a new phenomenon.
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By the way, there are countless places across the USA and certainly other countries where kids can play after dark unsupervised, people leave their doors unlocked and so on.

Places like this are precisely the ones where "nothing like that ever happens here" until it does.

Newtown, CT has nearly as many population wise as Beslan, Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan) did in 2004 (29k vs 35k or something like that).
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Here is what i know. In public forums that are largely populated by people who work with their hands, people who create and keep the world moving gun control is abhorred.

In public forums poulated by people who make their income by manipulating the markets created by the hands of those workers, and people who think that the fruit of the labor of those producers should be taken away and given to those who do not produce, gun control is the agenda.

I trust people who produce, repair and create.
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


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Anyone who says get the fuck over ur stupid guns..is totally ignorant why should people put down hobbies they have been doing for years and not hurting anyone while doing it for a few idiotic psycho idiots and a flawed security system for the school..

We should try and get Police banned too because they carry guns and a whole batman utility belt basically with all types of weapons...They don't need guns plus they travel in packs...
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anunaki - If your drug dealers dont own guns, you live In a great neighborhood! But thats your neck of the woods. I know plenty of hunters that have 10-15 guns easy and if you want to collect them and have 50 then why the fuck not.

Stop letting the government think for you! Train your kids to handle them if your gonna keep them and if you don't want them then guess what? You don't have to own them! Phone Post
My drug dealers are old school.

Slingshots and baseball bats. Phone Post
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anunaki - If your drug dealers dont own guns, you live In a great neighborhood! But thats your neck of the woods. I know plenty of hunters that have 10-15 guns easy and if you want to collect them and have 50 then why the fuck not.

Stop letting the government think for you! Train your kids to handle them if your gonna keep them and if you don't want them then guess what? You don't have to own them! Phone Post
My drug dealers are old school.

Slingshots and baseball bats. Phone Post
My dealer has an iPod. That is his most lethal weapon. He looked at me in horror when I mentioned I had an RPAL in a conversation. My dealer's a true Canadian. Phone Post
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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 


Comparing the brutality of mass shooting with a sport ? Can you name any other gun brandishing mass murderer than Bryant ? He would have killed them all with a chainsaw or knife..you 'suspect' ? The rest of the world should STFU ?

Embarrassing from start to finish.

Aussie rules football - Player Violence

Brutal, but, you are correct not comparable to a mass shooting. It shows, that your sports are violent enough to have arrests on and off the field. One point taken.

Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments.

Bryant was a murderer. Perhaps you think he'd have taught ballet if there were no guns available? I'm doubting it.

If the solution you offer is banning tools, pointed sticks, shovels, kitchen knives, arrows, spears or projectile weapons, then so be it. I think we should terminate cold-blooded murderers and spree killers, and crazy people who kill their moms with a hammer should stay in jail. Go figure.

HTH

 

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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 


Comparing the brutality of mass shooting with a sport ? Can you name any other gun brandishing mass murderer than Bryant ? He would have killed them all with a chainsaw or knife..you 'suspect' ? The rest of the world should STFU ?

Embarrassing from start to finish.

Aussie rules football - Player Violence

Brutal, but, you are correct not comparable to a mass shooting. It shows, that your sports are violent enough to have arrests on and off the field. One point taken.

Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments.

Bryant was a murderer. Perhaps you think he'd have taught ballet if there were no guns available? I'm doubting it.

If the solution you offer is banning tools, pointed sticks, shovels, kitchen knives, arrows, spears or projectile weapons, then so be it. I think we should terminate cold-blooded murderers and spree killers, and crazy people who kill their moms with a hammer should stay in jail. Go figure.

HTH

 


"Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments"

- hahaha "We". Don't you mean you and the people who agree with you?. I'll leave this debate now as I'm not a US Citizen but I'm not sure where all the parents of the children murdered in Newtown or all the victims of gun rampages and perhaps a few millions other US Citizens who don't agree with you stand. Guess if they don't accept that particular amendment or your own ideals well they can STFU as well, right...
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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 


Comparing the brutality of mass shooting with a sport ? Can you name any other gun brandishing mass murderer than Bryant ? He would have killed them all with a chainsaw or knife..you 'suspect' ? The rest of the world should STFU ?

Embarrassing from start to finish.

Aussie rules football - Player Violence

Brutal, but, you are correct not comparable to a mass shooting. It shows, that your sports are violent enough to have arrests on and off the field. One point taken.

Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments.

Bryant was a murderer. Perhaps you think he'd have taught ballet if there were no guns available? I'm doubting it.

If the solution you offer is banning tools, pointed sticks, shovels, kitchen knives, arrows, spears or projectile weapons, then so be it. I think we should terminate cold-blooded murderers and spree killers, and crazy people who kill their moms with a hammer should stay in jail. Go figure.

HTH

 


i am saying to ban semi autos you stupid fucks, you know what......... it will probs be better if we left you to kill yourselves off.
i have never said you will stop every murdering person in the world that is impossible but to sit there and say that banning semi autos will not help the innocent people getting shot is stupid and ignorant. for the record the boy that shot the kids at schol was using semi auto pistols.
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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 


Comparing the brutality of mass shooting with a sport ? Can you name any other gun brandishing mass murderer than Bryant ? He would have killed them all with a chainsaw or knife..you 'suspect' ? The rest of the world should STFU ?

Embarrassing from start to finish.

Aussie rules football - Player Violence

Brutal, but, you are correct not comparable to a mass shooting. It shows, that your sports are violent enough to have arrests on and off the field. One point taken.

Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments.

Bryant was a murderer. Perhaps you think he'd have taught ballet if there were no guns available? I'm doubting it.

If the solution you offer is banning tools, pointed sticks, shovels, kitchen knives, arrows, spears or projectile weapons, then so be it. I think we should terminate cold-blooded murderers and spree killers, and crazy people who kill their moms with a hammer should stay in jail. Go figure.

HTH

 


i am saying to ban semi autos you stupid fucks, you know what......... it will probs be better if we left you to kill yourselves off.
i have never said you will stop every murdering person in the world that is impossible but to sit there and say that banning semi autos will not help the innocent people getting shot is stupid and ignorant. for the record the boy that shot the kids at schol was using semi auto pistols.

So you basically just want to keep muskets legal?
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...

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