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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 


Comparing the brutality of mass shooting with a sport ? Can you name any other gun brandishing mass murderer than Bryant ? He would have killed them all with a chainsaw or knife..you 'suspect' ? The rest of the world should STFU ?

Embarrassing from start to finish.

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Brutal, but, you are correct not comparable to a mass shooting. It shows, that your sports are violent enough to have arrests on and off the field. One point taken.

Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments.

Bryant was a murderer. Perhaps you think he'd have taught ballet if there were no guns available? I'm doubting it.

If the solution you offer is banning tools, pointed sticks, shovels, kitchen knives, arrows, spears or projectile weapons, then so be it. I think we should terminate cold-blooded murderers and spree killers, and crazy people who kill their moms with a hammer should stay in jail. Go figure.

HTH

 


"Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments"

- hahaha "We". Don't you mean you and the people who agree with you?. I'll leave this debate now as I'm not a US Citizen but I'm not sure where all the parents of the children murdered in Newtown or all the victims of gun rampages and perhaps a few millions other US Citizens who don't agree with you stand. Guess if they don't accept that particular amendment or your own ideals well they can STFU as well, right...
1/11/13 7:59 PM
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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 


Comparing the brutality of mass shooting with a sport ? Can you name any other gun brandishing mass murderer than Bryant ? He would have killed them all with a chainsaw or knife..you 'suspect' ? The rest of the world should STFU ?

Embarrassing from start to finish.

Aussie rules football - Player Violence

Brutal, but, you are correct not comparable to a mass shooting. It shows, that your sports are violent enough to have arrests on and off the field. One point taken.

Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments.

Bryant was a murderer. Perhaps you think he'd have taught ballet if there were no guns available? I'm doubting it.

If the solution you offer is banning tools, pointed sticks, shovels, kitchen knives, arrows, spears or projectile weapons, then so be it. I think we should terminate cold-blooded murderers and spree killers, and crazy people who kill their moms with a hammer should stay in jail. Go figure.

HTH

 


i am saying to ban semi autos you stupid fucks, you know what......... it will probs be better if we left you to kill yourselves off.
i have never said you will stop every murdering person in the world that is impossible but to sit there and say that banning semi autos will not help the innocent people getting shot is stupid and ignorant. for the record the boy that shot the kids at schol was using semi auto pistols.
1/11/13 8:05 PM
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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 


Comparing the brutality of mass shooting with a sport ? Can you name any other gun brandishing mass murderer than Bryant ? He would have killed them all with a chainsaw or knife..you 'suspect' ? The rest of the world should STFU ?

Embarrassing from start to finish.

Aussie rules football - Player Violence

Brutal, but, you are correct not comparable to a mass shooting. It shows, that your sports are violent enough to have arrests on and off the field. One point taken.

Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments.

Bryant was a murderer. Perhaps you think he'd have taught ballet if there were no guns available? I'm doubting it.

If the solution you offer is banning tools, pointed sticks, shovels, kitchen knives, arrows, spears or projectile weapons, then so be it. I think we should terminate cold-blooded murderers and spree killers, and crazy people who kill their moms with a hammer should stay in jail. Go figure.

HTH

 


i am saying to ban semi autos you stupid fucks, you know what......... it will probs be better if we left you to kill yourselves off.
i have never said you will stop every murdering person in the world that is impossible but to sit there and say that banning semi autos will not help the innocent people getting shot is stupid and ignorant. for the record the boy that shot the kids at schol was using semi auto pistols.

So you basically just want to keep muskets legal?
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...

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JitznPound -  What is wrong with the USA??? You all get upset when you here of these mass shootings but you never want to do anything about it.
Over here in Australia we had a mass shooting in Tasmania, Martin Bryant killed 35 people in cold blood, it had a huge impact on everyone in the country. So much so that we banned the right to own a SEMI AUTOMATIC gun.
Do you think there has been any mass shootings here since the??? Well the answer is NO!!!!
But it's not just the semi autos, your country makes it to easy for people to get guns, over here it takes months to get a license and if you are buying a gun we have a 30 day cooling off period.
Don't get me wrong there is crazy people everywhere you go, but I don't understand why everyone in the USA needs a gun for protection. Where I live no one owns guns and if they do its for hunting not for when they have a burglar. Human life is precious and we only get one shot at it. BAN SEMI AUTOS YOU SELFISH ASSHOLES!!! Phone Post

No shootings after the ban, and none before the one that caused the ban. It's not like there was a bunch of mass shooting and the gun ban stopped them from happening, there weren't any to begin with.


I have to laugh at an Aussie excoriating someone for being brutal, or selfish. Aussie rules footie, anyone?

Also have to laugh at a non-American having an opinion on what we should do here. Best they STFU unless they talk about their own problems.

Not like Australia, the Botany Bay country is full of Sunday School teachers and Saints, is it?

Martin Bryant would have killed all those people with a chainsaw, or knife or blunt object if he didn't have a gun, I suspect.

Ban tools? Or ban criminals and the crazy people? You decide.

 


Comparing the brutality of mass shooting with a sport ? Can you name any other gun brandishing mass murderer than Bryant ? He would have killed them all with a chainsaw or knife..you 'suspect' ? The rest of the world should STFU ?

Embarrassing from start to finish.

Aussie rules football - Player Violence

Brutal, but, you are correct not comparable to a mass shooting. It shows, that your sports are violent enough to have arrests on and off the field. One point taken.

Yes, the rest of the world's OPINION about America's second amendment issues is not pertinent. So kindly STFU about it if you're not a US citizen - we don't care what you think about our amendments.

Bryant was a murderer. Perhaps you think he'd have taught ballet if there were no guns available? I'm doubting it.

If the solution you offer is banning tools, pointed sticks, shovels, kitchen knives, arrows, spears or projectile weapons, then so be it. I think we should terminate cold-blooded murderers and spree killers, and crazy people who kill their moms with a hammer should stay in jail. Go figure.

HTH

 


i am saying to ban semi autos you stupid fucks, you know what......... it will probs be better if we left you to kill yourselves off.
i have never said you will stop every murdering person in the world that is impossible but to sit there and say that banning semi autos will not help the innocent people getting shot is stupid and ignorant. for the record the boy that shot the kids at schol was using semi auto pistols.

 Derrick Bird - killed 12 people and injured 11 others in Cumbria, England in 2010 with a double barreled shotgun, bolt-action centerfire rifle, and a bolt-action rimfire rifle - NO SEMI-AUTO WEAPONS

Charles Whitman - killed 16 people and injured 32 others. All of the people he killed were by stabing,   pump-shotgun, or bolt-action rifle - NO SEMI-AUTO WEAPONS

To suggest that the other spree killers would have killed less people without a semi-auto weapon is ignorant.

The target of the killer may have changed depending on the weapon they have at their disposal, but if there intentions are to commit a mass-killing, they will find a way to do so.

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One guy with 44 guns? Ermagawd it's my right to bare arms..... No wonder ur country has shootings every second week, straight clowns Phone Post
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Thatsjustlikeyouropinionman -  Who needs 44 guns? Phone Post

Who needs 500Hp cars... (Cars kill more people than guns)

Who needs McDonalds (Obesity kills WAYYYY more people than guns)

Who needs to smoke? (Kills 10x the amount guns to annually)

 

You get the idea right?

Guns aren't killing people, people are. We need to look at society as a whole, and figure out why we're so violent, it isn't because we can buy guns.

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America's problem and the reason the country is in the shitter can be seen in these posts. Opinionated selfish gun nuts not willing to look at what works elsewhere in the world. Acting like the US is the only country in the world with mentally ill people, drug dealers and poverty. Grasping at straws trying to look for other causes of their gun violence. Your love of guns is the reason you guys are massacring yourselves and your children. Multiple homicides occur elsewhere in the developed world but they are rare because it is hard to get a gun. I'll take a crazed guy running into a theater with a knife any day over a guy with a gun.
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Glassman, your post is so full of shit.... Phone Post
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anunaki - If your drug dealers dont own guns, you live In a great neighborhood! But thats your neck of the woods. I know plenty of hunters that have 10-15 guns easy and if you want to collect them and have 50 then why the fuck not.

Stop letting the government think for you! Train your kids to handle them if your gonna keep them and if you don't want them then guess what? You don't have to own them! Phone Post
Thats the problem dummy that kid's dumb sick bitch of a mom taught that weirdo autistic freak how to shoot well enough to one shoot kill kids running around a classroom you dummy... Phone Post
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post

No, the rest of the world thinks Americans are retarded because we let our government run rampant.
So you think the gun ban is a bad idea and to prevent gun related deaths everyone should get a gun because even though its not working now, it will work eventually? Phone Post

Connecticut has a gun ban dipshit, how did that prevent anything?
Shall we ban swimming pools too? You realize kids drown in swimming pools right? Problem is, there is no political agenda with swimming pools.
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jdesko23 - The reason there isn't a swimming pool ban is because bodies of water are natural. Ever hear of an ocean or lake? Do they have rivers and streams in your part of the back woods?

You can't take a swimming pool with you to public places and murder a bunch of innocent people in a matter of seconds, see the difference? Dipshit.

Comparing swimming pools to guns? Give me a break.

This is why the "you just need to teach your kids how to use/control them" argument is flawed. Because people expect morons who compare swimming pools to guns to teach/raise their children well. How do people expect children of those morons to get taught well when their parents think a swimming pool is just as violent as an assault rifle?

You gun freaks are sad. We (Americans) aren't in a third world country or communist Germany, no ones going to come steal your guns and then murder you. If the government decided they wanted to perform a mass genocide or kill you, your assault rifle and 50 guns wouldn't help you much. No one needs a assault rifle for hunting and protection, and no one is calling for a straight out gun ban.

Wanna have a hand gun for protection? Cool, that's fine. But an assault rifle? Give me a break.

Grow a pair and stop making up for something that is lacking (physically or mentally).

Rant over! Ill now go back to lurking! Phone Post
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mikegli - Ok, forget genocide and communism.

What about hurricane Katrina? Remember that hurricane that George Bush caused? I'm sure you heard people were murdered and women raped. The police said fuck it, i'm outta here. You know why those fucking animals didnt rape and pillage every square inch of New Orleans? Guns, and gun owners. If a dozen street slugs walk up to your front door ready to kill you over a box of rice or your TV, you think a pistol is going to get the point across, or a gun slung over your shoulder?
You don't think Thugs from 3rd ward projects have guns they got guns too
Everybody got guns New Orleans was the murder capital before Katrina the legal gun owners had already left the city dummy lol... Phone Post
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


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Why do people keep quoting this post like it has any relevance to the discussion? All he did was rattle off a few other additional issues Americans are struggling with in an attempt to divert from the one we were talking about. You can ban guns AND fight the other issues mentioned... Unless of course your tactics to do so involved shooting at them. (Which would not surprise me) Phone Post
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post

No, the rest of the world thinks Americans are retarded because we let our government run rampant.

No, we think you are retarded because of the gun thing...among many other issues.  I don't know a single person on my street that owns a gun.  Not even the drug dealers.


Right, it has nothing to do with our foreign policy and everything to do with the number of guns owned by our civilians.

Must be true because the wordly, learned Molsonmuscle said so.
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HectorOfTroy - Guns make it much easier to kill people.

We had a guy who jumped off the bridge and killed himself. He left a note saying that if he could have bought a gun he would have gone to a local shopping centre and shot people until cops arrived and shot him.

I'm glad I live in Australia and not in USA as this guy would have done what he stated in his note.
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HectorOfTroy - Also, could someone please point me out to a news article which talks about how American right to carry guns actually prevented a massacre like Columbine or this latest one?

Since this is a main argument of pro-gun people I don't want to be reading only 'pro-hippy/communist/articles' which talk about how a person takes a gun and shoots dozens of unarmed innocents.
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


Quoted for logic. While we're at it they should abolish the death tax while there are still some family farms left in America. I voted with my feet last year and moved from Illinois to a red state like tens of thousands of others from Illinois.
Death tax? Like a inheritance tax? Phone Post
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Atkinson -  When I read threads like this and peoples inability to understand the danger in guns and how completely stupid it is to own so many guns I THANK GOD I DO NOT LIVE IN AMERICA!!

God bless Australia.


And I ain't even religious. Phone Post

I live in Australia, I have lots of guns, pew pew pew!!!!
With rimfire ammo? Phone Post
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random_muppett - In addition to what valued TartanTopTeam member and scourge of Naderhood said in 1996 there was a shooting at a primary (elementary) school in Scotland.

16 kids aged 5/6 and one teacher were murdered. The following year the UK banned private ownership of handguns.

School massacres since? None.

But hey if you guys think your second amendment 'right' is more important than infants life's then crack on.

^^^^the last sentence is why the rest of the world thinks America can be retarded btw. Phone Post
So do you honestly feel that the impulse a mentally disturbed person feels to kill someone in the US is only going to be fulfilled if he has a gun available to him?

What would stop him/her from driving a car through a flimsy chain link fence and plowing over 10, 20, 30 or more kids at recess?

If you believe that guns are at the root of any killing by a mentally disabled person you most likely have a limited mental capacity as well. Phone Post
Do we not have mental killers in europe?

Is this an american affliction?

The REST OF THE WORLD DOESNT HAVE AS MANY GUNS

And the REST OF THE WORLD has far less mass killings and gun fatalities and USA per head of population

Its that simple how can you be so ridiculous Phone Post

Chicago bans guns. They are ending the year with 500 homicides

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-12-28/news/chi-chicago-2012-homicide-toll-20121228_1_latest-homicide-500th-homicide-tragic-number


Chicago police confirm 'tragic number' of 500 homicides


December 28, 2012

Chicago reached “a tragic number” today, according to Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy: Its homicide total for the year hit 500, the highest annual total since 2008.

The city's latest homicide occurred around 9 p.m. Thursday when Nathaniel T. Jackson, 40, an alleged gang member with a lengthy arrest record, was gunned down outside a store in the Austin neighborhood.
"alleged gang member" lemme guess he wasn't killed by a legal gun and couldn't legally buy a gun with lengthy criminal record so its neither here nor
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post

No, the rest of the world thinks Americans are retarded because we let our government run rampant.

No, we think you are retarded because of the gun thing...among many other issues.  I don't know a single person on my street that owns a gun.  Not even the drug dealers.


owning firearms is not something that you advertise. especially if you are a drug dealer who probably doesnt have a PAL license.

your neighbors own guns, they just know not to bring it up around irrational hoplophobes.
Actually as a drug dealer you do advertise that you are "strapped" makes you less likely for a rival or a crackhead to try to rob you... Phone Post
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Guns are a problem, but it is a problem you cannot solve. You can get guns anywhere in the world, it is not unique to the USA. Do you want to make the USA less free than elsewhere?

The US gun laws do allow for more military type guns, but even here in Norway you can get guns very close to semi-automatic AR-15's, or even get a collector's license and get just about any gun you want, MP5's, G3's... whatever.

Handguns are no problem at all getting hold of. Revolvers, glocks etc..

So there is a bit of a myth that nowhere else, supposedly, can you get guns, except the USA.

And you cannot fix this problem by reducing freedom. Well you can, but it would be taking a wrong turn for society. Only a fool would give the state the power to remove freedom like that. Gun ownership is arguably not something the state should have a say in.

Also, while the murder rate in the US is higher than any other civilized country, it is still only 4.6 out of 100'000 pr year. No cause for panic. France is 1.1, Germany is 0.8. Quite a gap, but it's not like you are constantly worrying about being shot to death, is it?!

Problems you CAN solve are poverty and unemployment.

Once society runs well and people have work to go to, they are much less likely do commit crime.
1/13/13 1:10 AM
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krept
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That is either blatant trolling or there's just too much to fix so most won't bother to address the assumptions.

I was in a situation where the responding officer ended up having to kill an aggressive pitbull prowling the neighborhood. Had I been carrying my handgun the officer said I would have been completely justified in shooting it.

That is a real world example of where a handgun would have been the best tool for the job. There were several kids in the park and I got its attention. I am built like a truck and was ready to go, which is likely the reason why the dog did not close the final few feet. When it saw the cop, it went directly at him and was ended.

Somewhere at the very bottom of the list of things that MOST of us do not want to happen is to be unable to stop a kid, a loved one or yourself from being attacked and killed. It would suck to only have a big rock with which to fight (possibly to the death). A little better was the knife I had, but not much.

Is there room for debate? Sure, but not when someone just shuts down. Even accepting the premise that guns solely serve to kill, the fact is, sometimes killing may be the only option because doing nothing is unacceptable.
1/13/13 1:19 AM
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ssj - Guns serve no other purpose but to kill, whether it for hunting sport or some psycho kid shooting up his fellow neighbours.

The fact that Americans try and defend their guns as some sort of 'FUCK YOU' to their government is pathetic and fucked up.

The 2nd Amendment was made in a different time and different context, and is now purposely interpreted wrongly in the 21st century without just a little bit of foresight and contextual analysis, its crazy.

Keep clinging on to your guns and therefore allowing the possibility of crazy people in your society blowing away your family, friends and neighbours.

When the NRA responded to Newton with MOAR GUNS FOR GOODIEZ TO KIL DA BADDIEZ that sound you heard was the entire world collectively face palming.

Natural Rights never go out of style.  When the 2A was written, they were talking about cannons and frigates.

 

Frankly, if the US let everyone own an automatic weapon, and closed their overseas military bases, the world would be a better place.


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