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12/29/12 12:54 PM
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1850Pounds - The fuck does "need" have to do with it?

Who "needs" 44 guns? Probably nobody, I'll give you that much, but what does that matter. Why do I keep hearing this asked? It's not a question of need.

If you wanna ban all guns then say that, but stop throwing out this question of necessity.

If you wanna live with only what is necessary then go live on a hippie commune where you can recycle your own shit, own one pair of shoes for the rest of your life, and bathe once a month to save water.

What the fuck does a hippie commune have to do with idiot american gun nuts and their blind love of guns and its catastrophic effects on little innocent kids being slaughtered while attending school?

Thats right.. absolutely nothing..

Most of us in western world just look on in disbelief that yanks can continue to be so ridiculously stupid about this problem. All the arguments here are made totally invalid by the fact that most of europe and Australia are doing fine with gun control.. our gov isnt taking us over and our kids arent being slaughtered at school.. but its all good.. keep clutching at your amendments and rights and shit.. its really working for ya.

Also your stupid point is comparing sparing plentiful resources against saving young lives..

yes.. you are a fuckwit.

mexico is doing terrible with gun control. its a complicated issue.

like joe rogan said, 'the pee is already in the pool'.
the country is flooded with firearms and they are plentiful on the black market. disarming law abiding owners wont work until you can make a dent in the illegal gun supply.

how about instead of wasting money and resources for the 'war on drugs', america puts the money towards a war on illegal arms? the amount spent at this point could have made a significant impact.
12/29/12 12:56 PM
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


Today I agree with MMALOGIC
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post

No, the rest of the world thinks Americans are retarded because we let our government run rampant.
So you think the gun ban is a bad idea and to prevent gun related deaths everyone should get a gun because even though its not working now, it will work eventually? Phone Post

Connecticut has a gun ban dipshit, how did that prevent anything?
Shall we ban swimming pools too? You realize kids drown in swimming pools right? Problem is, there is no political agenda with swimming pools.

how often have swimming pools been used as an offensive weapon against innocent victims? What about semi and fully-automatic swimming pools, the latter being entirely designed and built for military combat?

and yeah, cars have been used as a murder weapon

"OMG WELL WHY DONT WE BAN CARS THEN IF YOURE BANNING GUNS?"

because nothing else is like a gun; nothing is as easy to use for easy killing as a gun. So talk of cars, kitchen knives and pools is all bullshit because none are designed as weapons and if youre really not sure, have a think about which one you would use in a fight to the death. Pool?
12/29/12 1:01 PM
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post

Because we wont let our government disarm us so they can do whatever the fuck they want?
Thats right, because genocide has never happened or never been attempted. Those tall tales (fictional obviously) of Jews and Rwandans killed were not preempted by a massive disarmament.

The first amendment protects us from the government.
The eighth amendment protects us from the government.
I think you are seeing a trend here...but if not the 2nd amendment is also to protect us from the government.

If you find the Constitution so objectionable, maybe you should pack up.

You're foolish.
Pretty much all european countrys the citizens dont have guns

Hell in britian even most police officers dont have guns

We havnt descended into anarchy or genocide and our gun fatality rate is MAGNITUDES lower than USA. USA has the highest gun crime and gun deaths per head than any other first world country MANY TIMES OVER yet they think the rest of the world is wrong about guns and they are right


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Britain? hahaha the most watched kingdom in the entire world via cctv? You can't even defend your home, your property, or say anything on twitter without being investigated and incarcerated.



Britain is the last place I'd want to live.
But i can send my kids to school without them being blown to bits

I can go and watch batman without being massacred

The only people that would have a problem with all the CCTV or DNA logging are those with something to hide

If i walk down the street to buy milk and 10 CCTV cameras see me so fucking why im buying milk. Would rather that than a crack head pulls a shooter on me takes my phone and "pops a cap in my ass"

Your argument is retarded Phone Post

Freedom comes with a price. It is not perfect but many Americans feel that even with the risks of crazy people doing terrible things, this is a better place to live.


"freedome comes with a price" - ???

kids being shot to bits is an acceptable price to you?

the whole thing boils down to his - if there werent so many guns in america., there would not be so many gunnings. So remove the guns, lower the rate. Eventually you can aspire to be like France or UK where a single shooting incident anywhere in the country will be headline national news

instead your present situation is that a mass killing is national headline news for a week or so at most; and its getting less and less coverage as it becomes more common

the answer to fear of guns is not "pump out more guns"
12/29/12 1:10 PM
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post


To all you Americans:

The rest of the world really does think you are retarded.

I am not being mean, this is true.

The civilized world that shares resources to help the less fortunate and provide health care, and the rest of the world that does not consider it a normal state of affairs to be at war, and does not decalre war on every problem - that world thinks america is a belligerent, corrupt and violent country.

As a hypothetical starting point for the guns argument:

If there were absolutly no guns in america, it would be guarenteed that there would be no shootings.
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


that is some ridiculous paranoid ignorant drivel

yeah that evil gubmnt is all about socialist agenda trying to destroy our families

jesus fucking christ sad retards

I was going to stay away from this thread, but when I see this kind of oblique ignorance, I just can't ignore it. Part of the problem in this country is we can't have a reasonable discussion of facts without this kind of knee-jerk, political bomb-throwing taking place... If all you can offer is name-calling, perhaps saying nothing at all would have been a more enlightened approach. In the meantime, learn something about countries who have already banned guns, and see how they're doing.

Facts can be pesky things to ideologues...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323777204578195470446855466.html

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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


that is some ridiculous paranoid ignorant drivel

yeah that evil gubmnt is all about socialist agenda trying to destroy our families

jesus fucking christ sad retards

I was going to stay away from this thread, but when I see this kind of oblique ignorance, I just can't ignore it. Part of the problem in this country is we can't have a reasonable discussion of facts without this kind of knee-jerk, political bomb-throwing taking place... If all you can offer is name-calling, perhaps saying nothing at all would have been a more enlightened approach. In the meantime, learn something about countries who have already banned guns, and see how they're doing.

Facts can be pesky things to ideologues...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323777204578195470446855466.html

Thank you. Logic and reason needs to prevail. Phone Post
12/29/12 1:29 PM
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post

No, the rest of the world thinks Americans are retarded because we let our government run rampant.

No, we think you are retarded because of the gun thing...among many other issues.  I don't know a single person on my street that owns a gun.  Not even the drug dealers.


owning firearms is not something that you advertise. especially if you are a drug dealer who probably doesnt have a PAL license.

your neighbors own guns, they just know not to bring it up around irrational hoplophobes.

One of my best friends is a dealer, I know him well, and I also know he hates guns with a passion.  I don't hate guns, I have no problem with hunting rifles and the like.  I hunt myself, I keep my gun (singular, I only need one) at my uncles cabin.  I also have a compound bow which is out there.  However, because of the culture I live in, I do not need to have a gun in my house to kill random hobo's who happen to stagger passed in the middle of thie night. 

I pesonally don't have a problem with people owning a few guns if they are responsbible people.  That's the biggest issue in the US.  Noone has any fucking respect for anyone elses life in your country.  There are lots of resposible gun owners sure, but there are tens of thousands of irresponsible ones and that makes having them so prevelant in your society very very dangerous.  Really, what other country on the planet has such a deep gun culture?  The only other groups I can think of are mostly Muslim fundamentalists.

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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post

Because we wont let our government disarm us so they can do whatever the fuck they want?
Thats right, because genocide has never happened or never been attempted. Those tall tales (fictional obviously) of Jews and Rwandans killed were not preempted by a massive disarmament.

The first amendment protects us from the government.
The eighth amendment protects us from the government.
I think you are seeing a trend here...but if not the 2nd amendment is also to protect us from the government.

If you find the Constitution so objectionable, maybe you should pack up.

You're foolish.

How's this for a deal, Canada will trade you Alberta + all of our religious right wing gun lovers.  All we want in return is all of your athiests.


Deal. But they must stay in California or New York.

So, you basically just agreed to a deal for Canada's prison population for the American scientific community.   Bravo sir.


so your plan is to trade away the only province that is actually turning a profit and not a 'have not', sucking equalization money down the drain?

those right wing rednecks keep your streetlights on and your roads paved, son. try to learn how to stand on your own two feet before you give away the goose that layed the golden egg.

I mostly meant the people, but sure, if you want the whole province sure.  You think Alberta is the only place in Canada with a ton of natural resources?  Saskatchewan has just as much oil it hasn't been touched yet, not to mention a new huge uranium mine going there in the next decade.

 

And plus, with that trade I offered, I'm pretty sure Canada would do ok, seeing as we'd have most of the worlds top scientists at that point (including getting our own best back that your government paid a shit ton to pull out of Canada)

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Lol. Cerrone is clearly 1 paranoid motherfucker.
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Amazing you could be so tough but at the same time so insecure.

Dude is on his over compensation grind Phone Post
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


that is some ridiculous paranoid ignorant drivel

yeah that evil gubmnt is all about socialist agenda trying to destroy our families

jesus fucking christ sad retards

I was going to stay away from this thread, but when I see this kind of oblique ignorance, I just can't ignore it. Part of the problem in this country is we can't have a reasonable discussion of facts without this kind of knee-jerk, political bomb-throwing taking place... If all you can offer is name-calling, perhaps saying nothing at all would have been a more enlightened approach. In the meantime, learn something about countries who have already banned guns, and see how they're doing.

Facts can be pesky things to ideologues...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323777204578195470446855466.html

Thank you. Logic and reason needs to prevail. Phone Post

Yeah voted up DojoJay for the article. Alot of ignorant people that seem to think that shooting sprees and rampage killings don't exist in Europe.

Aside from murders, there's been just as many spree killers in Europe as a whole than in the U.S.

Just a couple years ago, there was a guy in Britian who killed 15 people with a legally owned single-shot 12 guage and bolt-action hunting rifle.

That guy in Finland who killed a dozen or so people with a 22LR target pistol.

The Muslim guy in France who shot up a Jewish school with an Ak-47. There's been dozens of other spree killers in the past 10 years. This isn't just an American issue like some of these people are making it out to be 

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Who needs 2 cars? 

Who needs 44 pairs of shoes?

Who needs a 10k sq ft house?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers

^^^^There ya go

I'm not going to try to argue anything about homicide rates. The homicide rate in U.S. is very high but it has a whole set of problems that can't be simply solved by "remove the guns". Its a different kind of animal over here with the drugs trade, organized crime, gang violence, etc.

I just wanted to point out that spree killings aren't just an American phenomenon. If someone is motivated to kill alot of people, there going to do it with or without an assault rifle.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers

^^^^There ya go

I'm not going to try to argue anything about homicide rates. The homicide rate in U.S. is very high but it has a whole set of problems that can't be simply solved by "remove the guns". Its a different kind of animal over here with the drugs trade, organized crime, gang violence, etc.

I just wanted to point out that spree killings aren't just an American phenomenon. If someone is motivated to kill alot of people, there going to do it with or without an assault rifle.

I would be interested to know how many murders happen by registered gun owners vs non registered.

What is the murder rate in the US vs other countries, on a per gun basis.

What other MMA fighters are gun owners. Forest, Cerrone, anyone else? Phone Post
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


Today I agree with MMALOGIC

You agree with eliminating income tax entirely....

Not even going to get into the other silly parts of this post
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


What the hell are you ranting about? Family instead of government? lol wut
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post


To all you Americans:

The rest of the world really does think you are retarded.

I am not being mean, this is true.

The civilized world that shares resources to help the less fortunate and provide health care, and the rest of the world that does not consider it a normal state of affairs to be at war, and does not decalre war on every problem - that world thinks america is a belligerent, corrupt and violent country.

As a hypothetical starting point for the guns argument:

If there were absolutly no guns in america, it would be guarenteed that there would be no shootings.

What complete and utter drivel. No country on Earth even comes close to the US in terms of aid and charity to the less fortunate. As far as war goes a region like Europe should really not talk. Perpetual wars, genocide, imperialism, slavery, racism...all a big part of Euro history. Never mind the brutality seen in Africa, the Middle East etc. Wanna hear a fun fact about England? You can be sent to jail for making a tasteless joke on Social media. Good stuff right? I would suggest you get off your high horse because no country is perfect. We all have our warts.
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how bout eliminating the income tax and the fractional reserve monetary system so both parents and older siblings dont have to be a slave to the system?...  how about giving preference to the family structure and community structure that has worked so well for thousands of years?

how bout instead of focusing on guns we get rid of the synthetic drugs being pumped into the population?

that doesnt fit the socialist agenda...  Govt needs to replace the family.  You need to serve and depend on the govt.

Getting rid of Guns?  yep... that's good for the govt.  getting rid of the dumbing down of society? not so good for the govt...


that is some ridiculous paranoid ignorant drivel

yeah that evil gubmnt is all about socialist agenda trying to destroy our families

jesus fucking christ sad retards

I was going to stay away from this thread, but when I see this kind of oblique ignorance, I just can't ignore it. Part of the problem in this country is we can't have a reasonable discussion of facts without this kind of knee-jerk, political bomb-throwing taking place... If all you can offer is name-calling, perhaps saying nothing at all would have been a more enlightened approach. In the meantime, learn something about countries who have already banned guns, and see how they're doing.

Facts can be pesky things to ideologues...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323777204578195470446855466.html

Thank you. Logic and reason needs to prevail. Phone Post

Yeah voted up DojoJay for the article. Alot of ignorant people that seem to think that shooting sprees and rampage killings don't exist in Europe.

Aside from murders, there's been just as many spree killers in Europe as a whole than in the U.S.

Just a couple years ago, there was a guy in Britian who killed 15 people with a legally owned single-shot 12 guage and bolt-action hunting rifle.

That guy in Finland who killed a dozen or so people with a 22LR target pistol.

The Muslim guy in France who shot up a Jewish school with an Ak-47. There's been dozens of other spree killers in the past 10 years. This isn't just an American issue like some of these people are making it out to be 

Hey dude... How about some links?

I don't give much credence to "that guy in.." quotes.

After that we can play my favourite game where we compare gun homicides figures between the US and Europe or Aust. Per capita of course. Phone Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post

I thought the world was going to love us if we elected Obama? What happened?
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Why are you concerned with the number of guns Donald Cerrone owns ?


You think criminals have ANY trouble getting as many guns as they like ?
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If it wasn't for America the world would be overrun and ruled by commies and muslims...and you wouldn't even be allowed to post on the internet.
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If it wasn't for America the world would be overrun and ruled by commies and muslims...and you wouldn't even be allowed to post on the internet.

lol wut
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GaryColeman -  This is why the rest of the world think Americans are retarded. Phone Post

If it wasn't for America the world would be overrun and ruled by commies and muslims...and you wouldn't even be allowed to post on the internet.

lol wut

You're not going to pretend that the United States hasn't provided the bulk of the Western World's military forces, are you? China isn't famous for it's social freedoms, nor was Soviet Russia. I'm not a fan of the military industrial complex, but Europe would be a different place without the United States.
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If it wasn't for America the world would be overrun and ruled by commies and muslims...and you wouldn't even be allowed to post on the internet.

lol wut

You're not going to pretend that the United States hasn't provided the bulk of the Western World's military forces, are you? China isn't famous for it's social freedoms, nor was Soviet Russia. I'm not a fan of the military industrial complex, but Europe would be a different place without the United States.

Ironically, they wouldn't be the same if not for Soviet Russia, either.

And the US does certainly have the best military of the west. We also fight pointless war after pointless war to justify that military's existence.

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